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piperider361 wrote:
Plastic, resin, or metal?

Metal for the heroines, restic gak for everything else.

 alanmckenzie wrote:
This went on the FB page about an hour ago. FYI;

"I know, I know, no images yet. Well, most of you have all said we should do the TGG images first, so that's what we're doing. The DE images ARE READY. Have been for a while. But the TGG: we won't show images until we are happy with them. After a 40 hours week-end, things were not perfect enough for us to show them yesterday. Could be tonight, could be tomorrow. But believe us when i say that we are just as eager as you are "

They're spankers. Talented spankers, but spankers nonetheless. They're trolling their backers, and having a roaring good time doing it, because we are unwashed, untalented peons and don't know how good we've got it.

et cetera.



I should point out that I'm not angry, because while I didn't expect this level of dickishness, even from their behaviour during the KS, I didn't expect much from them. That being said, I'm probably much less likely to throw money at them again in the future (or I'll likely throw fewer dollars when I do). I quite liked them when they were just a small boutique place in France that released (late) a few new models every few months, because despite being consistently late, they didn't seem like a bunch of arrogant dickholes or troll their customers.


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RoninXiC wrote:

It has been 100% UP TO THEM TO ANOUNCE PICTURES AND ANY OTHER INFORMATION. No one forced them to do so. But it is so incredible unbelievable that they manage to screw that in the end.

IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO SHOW, DON'T PROMISE IT!

Out of interest, when was the "big update with pictures" originally promised? Anyone remember the date? It's got to have been over a month ago now, surely?


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Raging Shiroz wrote:
We worked the entire week-end, 40 hours straight, and it's still not done. It's not done because in a creative process, there are always times when something just doesn't work, and we'll work on it until it does.
....
And I need to keep my team's spirits up, and sometimes, that means deleting a comment that I know will drive them up the wall. Because otherwise, how am I going to keep getting them to work week-ends and late late nights?

That just shows me that they have piss-poor management - both in terms of time and project. If it's actually true, it's a good way to burn people out, fast.

And yes, I've run my own business, I've also worked as an employee in a variety of positions, both in the public and private sectors, and I've worked in the creative arts to hard deadlines (much harder than KS fulfilment deadlines). These days I work to constant deadlines - nothing but deadlines in many ways. The EA Spouse model is a poor one in all of those fields and inevitably grinds through employees and leads to burnout. As an owner or partner, it's a little easier as you are much more personally invested, but it's still far from healthy or the best way to consistently bring your best work forward.

Wow... you guys were 100% (80%?) right, they are nothing but trolls...

Why the heck to they, again, say they MIGHT be ready and MIGHT release renders MAYBE tomorrow? Why not just waiting for.. you know, when the stuff is actually ready?!

Indeed, at this point they should just keep quiet until they actually show it.

 Azazelx wrote:

They're spankers. Talented spankers, but spankers nonetheless. They're trolling their backers, and having a roaring good time doing it, because we are unwashed, untalented peons and don't know how good we've got it.

et cetera.




Out of interest, when was the "big update with pictures" originally promised? Anyone remember the date? It's got to have been over a month ago now, surely?

That first bit was quite funny. As to the second bit -This was posted in the Sep 11 update #75;

"We know that what you are all waiting for images of the sculpts. We promise you that there will be PLENTY of them in the next update. As a matter of fact, as I am typing this, we are preparing most of them for their final output, so this means that you will see them very, very, soon. As explained above, most of the ones for Wave 1 will all be finished over the same few days, and will be featured in our upcoming Big Update."

and was posted with a render of Harry the Hippo and a weapon platform.

Prior to that, this was posted in the July 29 Update;

"And finally, we know that, as Tommy Blaze put it in the Comments thread, you would have loved to see some eye candy in this Update but alas, as much as we've been working on many sculptures al at once, none is ready for its close-up yet. But we'll make up for it in the next Update. "


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Update #76 on 24th September suggests that the "big update" is being split into one update for the troops, and one update for command groups and heroines.... I think;

"All the TROOPS boxes for the Iron Empire Heavy and Regular Troops as well as the Kurganova Shock Troops Heavy and Regular are done.
We are putting the final touches to the Jailbirds' Troops box.
And we are very close to finishing all the Command Group boxes as well.

As soon as the Jailbirds' Troops are finished, we will show you all 25 miniatures from the Troops Boxes, + a couple of extras, so that each army gets some love

Not far behind will come the 25 miniatures from the Command Groups.
And after that, we will be finalising all the Heroines planned for the first wave.
However, because we're sure you are as impatient as we are, we are going to post the images of the 25 Troops sculpts as soon as they're all done, rather than wait for the Command Groups and the Heroines and do one Big Update!"

So they've been stringing us along for two months now, and they still don't think they should just post the completed Jailbirds to tide us over?

It's "fluid".

 alanmckenzie wrote:
It's "fluid".

It's taking the piss.

Same thing, amirite?

 Azazelx wrote:
Same thing, amirite?

Yeah, a bit.

Again... baffling.... all of it....

Just eat the popcorn, laugh along with the rest of the audience at the clown show and throw some popcorn at the screen occasionally. That's the only real sane attitude to have on this one, I reckon.

The program was pretty clear about the way the plot to this one would play out about halfway through the Kickstarter, after all.

Not worth getting overly angry at or defensive of the show at this point. Everything is moving according to how we knew it would. Wave 1 shipping in September? Hah! Yep, we're right on schedule if you read the bones during the KS...

 Azazelx wrote:
Just eat the popcorn, laugh along with the rest of the audience at the clown show and throw some popcorn at the screen occasionally.... if you read the bones during the KS...

I see what you did there. Nice rug... or blanket... or whatever.

I believe that's his chest hair, mate.

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
I believe that's his chest hair, mate.

It looks familiar...

Wait. So, he's the "Skippy" I met at college? You said you were going to call me, Skippy. I waited for you to call me!



Anyway back on topic, but does anyone know if they've even found a manufacturer for their plastic kits yet? Isn't that the part of KS fulfillment that really eats up the months?

From the comments

Adam W wrote:Has anyone who pledged for the webinar heard anything about when they plan on having them?

Loud'n Raging wrote:@adam w: We're finishing collecting all the names for the seminars, as the people who pledged on the Connoisseur Add-on are also eligible to them, and I need to find them one by one. I've made a preliminary list last night (on which you are, of course), which is probably 95% complete, now that the responses to both the Kickstarter and Paypal surveys are coming in.
You and the other participants will (probably this week) be receiving another email to give you all an opportunity to share what you'd like to see covered, so that we make sure to include content the participants are interested in in the 5 hours we'll be spending together.

You know, I hadn't really thought about it, but is it possible the secrecy regarding process is on account of the seminars they sold on their design and sculpting process?

There MUST be an update soon, as they updated their Tumblr earlier today!

http://ragingheroes.tumblr.com/

http://31.media.tumblr.com/40bd2a655bfee95fe333d53874845fc5/tumblr_mh9jdoQczE1rfzj10o2_500.gif

Well.. theyposted this... now I cannot not like them!

 Buzzsaw wrote:
From the comments

Adam W wrote:Has anyone who pledged for the webinar heard anything about when they plan on having them?

Loud'n Raging wrote:@adam w: We're finishing collecting all the names for the seminars, as the people who pledged on the Connoisseur Add-on are also eligible to them, and I need to find them one by one. I've made a preliminary list last night (on which you are, of course), which is probably 95% complete, now that the responses to both the Kickstarter and Paypal surveys are coming in.
You and the other participants will (probably this week) be receiving another email to give you all an opportunity to share what you'd like to see covered, so that we make sure to include content the participants are interested in in the 5 hours we'll be spending together.

You know, I hadn't really thought about it, but is it possible the secrecy regarding process is on account of the seminars they sold on their design and sculpting process?

Now that's a possibility!

95% complete at... taking names for what people pledged for

I love the percentages...! And they're always so close to 100

We are in perma-80% until they show us otherwise.

Longest weekend ever. I really need to try out one of these French weekends that last 5 days sometime.

 cincydooley wrote:
Longest weekend ever. I really need to try out one of these French weekends that last 5 days sometime.

Due to budget cuts at work, I`m experiencing one right now, quite relaxing. Though they`ve had trouble getting anything more than 80% done with the reduced hours. Now, if you`ll excuse me I have to go look at pictures on the internet.

Hi Tristan: OK, late Update: The renders for the TTG troopers have been making the machines and the program bug and freeze and relaunch all day. A LaCie Rugged KEY 16 Go has already been a casualty (Neither PC or MAC is even detecting it...good thing we back-up in triplicate...). We've corrected all the settings, and removed the offending materials, and problems have now been sorted one by one. But we should have been done by now! Grrrrrrrrr! Proceeding along well, but at now 3:25 AM, I'm afraid we'll call it a night and finish the renders tomorrow. Double Grrrrrrrrr!

I guess the rending is 80% done!

RoninXiC wrote:
http://31.media.tumblr.com/40bd2a655bfee95fe333d53874845fc5/tumblr_mh9jdoQczE1rfzj10o2_500.gif

Well.. theyposted this... now I cannot not like them!

They're something almost ludicrously meta about a company so completely oblivious to the reality of their PR situation taking time out from their work schedule to post a gif from a surreal comedy sketch about vacant denial of reality

RoninXiC wrote:

Hi Tristan: OK, late Update: The renders for the TTG troopers have been making the machines and the program bug and freeze and relaunch all day. A LaCie Rugged KEY 16 Go has already been a casualty (Neither PC or MAC is even detecting it...good thing we back-up in triplicate...). We've corrected all the settings, and removed the offending materials, and problems have now been sorted one by one. But we should have been done by now! Grrrrrrrrr! Proceeding along well, but at now 3:25 AM, I'm afraid we'll call it a night and finish the renders tomorrow. Double Grrrrrrrrr!

I guess the rending is 80% done!

Yeah, that's pretty much what I take from the update. That and that they seem to either be using old / dodgy machines or having the USB drive as the target for the render file output...

I'm so surprised that their rendering ran into problems, delaying everything yet again.


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If they're going to be posting animated GIFs from Monty Python's Holy Grail, it really should be this one as it really captures their attitude. (and credit to whoever posted the .jpg earlier)

Bad news again, guys.

Our excuse generator has been running non-stop for the past few weeks, and it's finally given up the ghost. We're having a new one shipped by courier straight from the manufacturer, but it may be a few days before we've got it up and running. Keep watching for updates on our lack of updates on why we aren't updating.

"Is there someone else up there we can talk to?

No, now go away or I shall taunt you a second time."

I think this is their reaction to the reactions of the community so far:

"I told zem zat ze rendering vas going to take some time~!"

Thanks, Brook. I was looking for that one!