How many Dark Lances should a DE army have (1500)

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**Drazhar_Incubus2512**

How many DL do you take in 1500, I currently have 11

**LunaHound**

Drazhar_Incubus2512 wrote:How many DL do you take in 1500

Depends how many blasters i take xD

**Alerian**

As. many. as. possible

**SpacePup1987**

I use 9x dark lances and 9x blasters in my 1500.
And in my 2000pt list I use 15xdark lances and 9xblasters!!
Evil laughter

**Warboss Gutrip**

ALL OF THE DARK LANCES!!!

**Nate668**

My 1500 pt list that I run against friends has 8 lances and 5 blasters. My 1750 tournament list has 11 lances and 6 blasters. However, nobody in my area (except me) plays a fully mechanized list.

**Gorechild**

Mine has 13 Darklight shots (2 Blasters, 11 Dark Lances) at 1500. But I also have 18 haywire grenades for extra tank killing fun.

I'd say 23 (3 Rav's, 6 Dakka Venoms and two 4 man blasterborn/venom squads) is about the most you could cram in at that level if you really wanted, but 10-15 should be okay outside of ultra competitive circles.

**Thor665**

My answer to the core question (stolen from myself in the tactica) is this;

Dark Eldar Tactica Part 4 wrote:Also, just for those who wonder, though there is no "how many Darklight Weapons in [given point build] is the right amount?" answer that is really true - the most accurate 'starting point' answer I've come up with is this; 1 Darklight weapon per 100 points in the list. You can break that rule, but pretty much every DE general I speak to agrees it's fairly accurate - so it's a good mental starting point to understand what we mean when we say 'bring some more lances'.

Looking at a list I fielded competitively about three months ago I guess my answer is - 24 darklight weapons is about where I'm personally at at 1500 when playing competitively.

**Dracos**

I have 12 darklance and 6 blasters @ 1500. I also have 2x10 wych units each with haywire. Against some Mech lists I wish I had more darklight weapons, but then again you almost always wish you had more dakka. the 18 darklight weapons seems to be enough as I have only lost once ever with this list (and it was to another DE). Albeit I don't travel to play, so small pond syndrome and all that.

I think if you make sure to have at least 1 blaster/dark lance per 100 points you are on the right track. But really you should be stuffing in as many missile launchers ... err darklight weapons as possible.

**blood reaper**

I only have.....nine plus three blasters.....and yes I know you should take as many as possible but....

I hate assembling Ravagers, they are both expensive and fragile and I've only been successful in building one. The other became another Raider, thought my list does not really upon them, I still suggest you take as many as possible when facing vehicles or lone single characters but against hordes a Splinter Cannon is a better upgrade.

**Akroma06**

blood reaper wrote:I only have.....nine plus three blasters.....and yes I know you should take as many as possible but....

I hate assembling Ravagers, they are both expensive and fragile and I've only been successful in building one. The other became another Raider, thought my list does not really upon them, I still suggest you take as many as possible when facing vehicles or lone single characters but against hordes a Splinter Cannon is a better upgrade.

Thats what venoms are for and one of the two reasons I never run a pure WWP list.

Hmm...lets see 3 ravagers, 5 blasters from warriors, 1 from a raider, 4-6 ish blasters or 3-9 DL from trueborn. If my math on points was right (ran them through my head so I may be off, and I normally play 1850-2500) So that comes to 13-19 DL, and 9-11 blasters for a total of 21-30 darklight weapons...then you have haywires. Squeezed in there are 60-84 SC, 40 rifle shots, plus wyches...

I love the DE sometimes!

**DarthSpader**

In a standard list I take 9 lances, and 18 blasters. Pretty hard to fit more in unless I break out the scourges or bikes.

But generally speaking you get sufficient anti infantry fire in splinter weapons. Venoms come to mind, as do scourges with carbines. Basic rifle fire from warriors also does this, and anything that's not armor value can be shot down by these, so no need to take varied str weapons to handle MC etc. just load up the splinter weapons.

AT is a diffrent question. We have haywire, heat lance and lance/blaster. Haywires are ok for stunlocking but unreliable for lasting damage. Heat lances are short range and rare, and typically don't last the game. Lance/blaster are easy to get, reliable, and effective. So, I would suggest if it can move and fire the lance, dark lance it up. (ravagers,raiders,jet fighters,etc) otherwise blasters work awesome and anything that can take one should. And as many as possible since they are pretty affordable both model and points wise. Additionally, lance weapons en masse can help wipe out that pesky terminater squad or whatever. They aren't just tank busters.

**Thor665**

DarthSpader wrote:In a standard list I take 9 lances, and 18 blasters. Pretty hard to fit more in unless I break out the scourges or bikes.

At 1500, do you have any assault at all?

Edit - actually, double Blaster Archons? Really? Or am I building this thing wrong?

3x 4X Trueblasters in Venom (extra S.Cannons)
3x Ravagers
4x Warriors w. Blaster in Venom (extra S.Cannons)
2x Archon w. Blaster

16 points left over...FFs on 1 Ravager? Random Archon upgrade to V.Blades or something?

**DarthSpader**

All vehicles should have ff standard. Archons don't really need blasters. Especially not 2 of them... But no I generally don't have much of any cc. If anything it's maybe an archon with court (just to get an extra venom, but if your troops aren't full, an archon with some wyches can work well.

**Valek**

in my list i have about 12 dark lances, 6 blasters, 1 blastpistol and 2 squads with haywires and beasts.

So I would advise 15+ and some cc solution also.

**Thor665**

DarthSpader wrote:All vehicles should have ff standard. Archons don't really need blasters. Especially not 2 of them... But no I generally don't have much of any cc. If anything it's maybe an archon with court (just to get an extra venom, but if your troops aren't full, an archon with some wyches can work well.

So your answer is - you're not doing 9 lances and 18 blasters at 1500. Okay, that's what had me curious.