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Murmours from my local GW too.
They don't seem to have a release date for Jan yet and have attributed it to a printing error.
Can't wait!

Kwosge wrote:The internet is 99% sure that Warriors and Raviners are going to be in one box with an extra leg sprue for the Raviners.

I don't know where you got that tidbit from, but the new Warriors box has already been released, and it's just a repackage of the same old sprues with the new box art. Also, the Ravener sprues have already been seen, and they're 3 Raveners to a frame, with all the thorax-mounted ranged weapon options, and with a little emergence hole terrain bit on it aswell.

GW changed the color scheme for one of the Hive Fleets.

They changed all of them. However, all they really did was change the colour of the ranged weapon biomorphs of all the hive fleets. Leviathan has red bioweapons now for instance.

GW insiders claim that Tyranids are getting Old One-Eye, The Red Terror and the Death Leaper. This is iffy because we already know they they aren't going to get new models so expect them to be converts only or Old School.

Actually, it's just been rumoured that there is a returned of special characters to the new 'Nid codex, not specifically OOE, RT and DL. Could just as well be brand new characters, or unnamed special characters to represent a rare genotype or mutation. IMHO the latter would fit better in the 'Nid fluff anyway, they're not exactly individualistic.

The first wave/new kits for the Tyranids are

Plastic Ravenors, Trygon -- which enables you to build any of three variants AFAIK, and gargoyles.

Metal Hive Guard - akin to Tyrant guard, similar "stepped" helmet like head and crouched over pose, armed with a gun..looks, to me anyway, like a large version of a spike rifle.

Pyrovore --metal kit, 60MM base, like an oversized biovore, with a bigger weapon on the back.

Venomthrope -- the floating lictor/malanthrope/zoanthrope thing with all the lash whips we've seen.

Gaunts to be repackaged, maybe some recutting of the sprues, minor changes perhaps. Less in the box than now though...

reds8n wrote:The first wave/new kits for the Tyranids are

Plastic Ravenors, Trygon -- which enables you to build any of three variants AFAIK, and gargoyles.

Metal Hive Guard - akin to Tyrant guard, similar "stepped" helmet like head and crouched over pose, armed with a gun..looks, to me anyway, like a large version of a spike rifle.

Pyrovore --metal kit, 60MM base, like an oversized biovore, with a bigger weapon on the back.

Venomthrope -- the floating lictor/malanthrope/zoanthrope thing with all the lash whips we've seen.

Gaunts to be repackaged, maybe some recutting of the sprues, minor changes perhaps. Less in the box than now though...

And I'll confirm all of the above, as I just got off the phone from GW. Lots of other little tidbits that my brain is bleeding from. I seriously don't want to know just how nasty this book is going to be. Other tidbits (keep as a rumor, I dont have a codex yet):
1-3 Carnifex per heavy slot
zoanthropes to elites
warriors as troops, possibly with an extra wound and +1 to current armor save
Broodlord as an upgrade to a troop.
Tyrant probably back to the only HQ choice.
Deathleapers and the Redterror in the codex.

I hope the pyrovore doesn't have goofball tardface syndrome like the biovore does.

If the Ravener sprues have been seen, why have people posted pictures of them yet?!

reds8n wrote:The first wave/new kits for the Tyranids are

Plastic Ravenors, Trygon -- which enables you to build any of three variants AFAIK, and gargoyles.

Metal Hive Guard - akin to Tyrant guard, similar "stepped" helmet like head and crouched over pose, armed with a gun..looks, to me anyway, like a large version of a spike rifle.

Pyrovore --metal kit, 60MM base, like an oversized biovore, with a bigger weapon on the back.

Venomthrope -- the floating lictor/malanthrope/zoanthrope thing with all the lash whips we've seen.

Gaunts to be repackaged, maybe some recutting of the sprues, minor changes perhaps. Less in the box than now though...

Even putting aside the repackaged gaunt box, this is a huge first wave, hem... invasion.
Lot of new stuff, it's above average, compared to what we get accustomed to.

Aduro wrote:If the Ravener sprues have been seen, why have people posted pictures of them yet?!

None Disclosure Agreements and such. As you've might have noticed, GW has been really tight on leaks and sparse on spreading information lately. But the sprue contents are from people with reliable reputations, and has been confirmed by others.

mikhaila wrote:
1-3 Carnifex per heavy slot
zoanthropes to elites
warriors as troops, possibly with an extra wound and +1 to current armor save
Broodlord as an upgrade to a troop.
Tyrant probably back to the only HQ choice.
Deathleapers and the Redterror in the codex.

God, you aren't making this wait any easier for me.

Oh goody

reds8n wrote:Gaunts to be repackaged, maybe some recutting of the sprues, minor changes perhaps. Less in the box than now though...

How can they be less? they are only 8 each now. So going to a 10 for $25 box?
When they should be priced for a horde.

skrulnik wrote:

reds8n wrote:Gaunts to be repackaged, maybe some recutting of the sprues, minor changes perhaps. Less in the box than now though...

How can they be less? they are only 8 each now. So going to a 10 for $25 box?
When they should be priced for a horde.

Will be 2 boxes, 1 termagaunt, 1 for hormagaunts. 12 in a box for 24.00

Good thing I already have a ton of them then. $52 after taxes for a decent sized unit of gaunts is a steep.

Good thing I already have a ton of them then. $52 after taxes for a decent sized unit of gaunts is a steep.

That is less then it is now per model and you don't have to get a guant type you don't want. Granted there is rumors the upgrade sprue is direct only so it isn't all rosy. I'd still take the rumored box over the current box of 8 and 8 with upgrade sprue though.

Any info yet when the codex will be released? officail date. I cant wait i have all these nidds that want to be redone.

Why would they make the upgrade sprue unavailable with the flipping box it was made for in the first place? Thats silly. Therefore it will happen.

24 per 12 is $2 per T3 wound you're putting on the table, no upgrade sprue(stupid, but its GW) If you split the price in half of the current box, then divide it by 8, it's more like $2.17 per guy with an upgrade sprue. I'd take a couple extra dollars per box for the upgrade sprue to be included rather than have to order the dang thing for every 12 gaunts I want to use. The new box is rationally split so that if you want to use only one sort of gaunt over the other, you aren't left with dozens of guys you'd rather not have bought just to get the things you want. I use a mix, so it isn't much of an issue with me.

am i the only person that uses both body types for either gaunt type? e.g. I've got "jumping" spine gaunts and walking hormagaunts?

Granted, it won't matter soon, but I never saw this as a problem, especially considering how boring and static the walking gaunts are.

I also use both body types for both.

I'd take a couple extra dollars per box for the upgrade sprue to be included rather than have to order the dang thing for every 12 gaunts I want to use.

We'll have to agree to disagree. I'd rather pay 24 for stuff I know I want and not 35 for stuff I may want (or that would prolly still need an extra set of upgrade sprue or scytals to make good use of).

I do hope they do the right thing and include the proper upgrades in a recut sprue and not make it direct only (agree that is silly). We don't know for sure what they are doing with it at this point though.

Without the upgrade sprue, you can make termagants and hormagaunts. The upgrade sprue allows you to add most of the biomorphs as well as devourers or spinefists to your gaunts, so if you so chose you could make any mix of gaunts out of the box unless you wanted more than 8 of a specific type.

Wow. Well, I'll be happy to turn my spare spinefists and devourers over to worthy recipients, then.

Horde armies have gotten really expensive. Of only GW's pricing-up of powerful figs also worked the other way, making horde grunts affordable. Oh well.

I wonder if the armor-up on Warriors will make them able to achieve AS 3+ with an upgrade? That's be a good first. With +1 wound, that might even balance out their new vulnerability to instant death. I do also wonder whether the Catalyst power might get modified to allow immunity to ID as a special power though.

If they get to near plague-marine levels of toughness, then it would require instant death weapons to reliably take them out reliably. That would be much better than the current situation, where they are so vulnerable to just about anything that eternal warrior is necessary just to keep them on the table.

Well currently they are awesome against things like melta/heavy single shot weapons. It's the anti infantry guns that take their toll. Which just means more big guns firing at the carnifexes/ tyrants.

If we could get them to a 3+sv, 2 wounds, FNP and T5...that's pretty solid. Of course we should be prepared to pay the points. I foresee sick abuse of wound allocation rule.

I dont know about this, if anybody picked up on it or what but the big bug in the backof this pichttp://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/blogPost.jsp?aId=6500072a

i was on the site and saw it is this gonna be int he new dex? I know people use them in appocalypse its not the tyragon I think it starts with an H

Any word on Genstealers
Elite or Troop?

@lordbug I don't see anything new in that pic. two tyrants, one which has some light conversion work, a forgeworld hiderodule (sp?) some lictors, a few warriors, one with wings (???) 3 zones, 4 guard, 2 carnis and 3 lictors. i may be missing something though.

no it was the hiderodule they say he has whats in the codex so I figured they meant the new one thanks anyways

That guy doesn't have at least one of EVERY unit in the codex in that picture, so that pic doesn't tell us anything at all.

No, it says he has one of every unit TYPE. MC = check; Infantry = check; Jump infantry = check; Beasts = check; swarm = check.

Easily overlooked but obvious once you look past your nose.

99120106017 Tyranid Battleforce 46 Fig Box 5-Dec-09 $105.00
99060106064 Tyranid Spore Mines 9 Fig Blister 16 Jan-10 $16.50
60030106003 Codex: Tyranids (English)96pp 16-Jan-10 $25.00
99120106016 Tyranid Ravener Brood 3 Fig Box 16-Jan-10 $44.50
99120106018 Tyranid Gargoyle Brood 10 Fig Box 16-Jan-10 $29.00
99120106019 Tyranid Trygon / Mawloc 1 Fig Box 16-Jan-10 $49.50
99110106063 Tyranid Pyrovore 1 Fig Box 16-Jan-10 $33.00
99120106021 Tyranid Termagant Brood 12 Fig Box 12-Dec-09 $24.75
99120106020 Tyranid Hormagaunt Brood 12 Fig Box 12-Dec-09 $24.75
9906010606201 Tyranid Venomthrope 1 Fig Blister 16-Jan-10 $20.00
9906010606101 Tyranid Hive Guard 1 Fig Blister 16-Jan-10 $20.00