| Author |
Message |
 |
|
|
 |
|
Advert
|
Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
- No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
- Times and dates in your local timezone.
- Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
- Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
- Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now. |
|
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/09 05:45:32
Subject: Air Cav CSM
|
 |
Arch Magos w/ 4 Meg of RAM
|
I really like the Chaos Stormeagle. However, the more I think about it, the harder time I have incorporating it into a list. You're playing for a 20 slot assault ramp, and I don't know how to make that useful. It has to make sense somehow. Perhaps take a MM, then use standard CSM/ PMs with Meltaguns? You'd relieve your need for long ranged shooting significantly, so between the two Obliterators and Rhino you save, you almost recoupe the cost of the Eagle. The missiles are also tempting.
|
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/04/09 05:45:59
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/09 05:51:41
Subject: Re:Air Cav CSM
|
 |
Frenzied Berserker Terminator
In your squads, doing the chainsword tango
|
20 CSM's with MoK? 20 'zerkers? 10 Terms? ...can you use the Storm eagle with the IA/apocalypse rules? It seems to be an imperial model.... Facepalm! I just read the rules! Maybe swap the HB for the free reapers, and use it mainly as a transport?
|
|
This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2012/04/09 05:54:53
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/09 07:29:47
Subject: Air Cav CSM
|
 |
Khorne Veteran Marine with Chain-Axe
|
I would only take them in 3's, 2 with 20 Berzerkers each and the last one with Khorne Terminators with LC's. Maybe even put Kharn and/or a Khorne Lord in there some were. But I do like Khorne.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/09 09:03:10
Subject: Air Cav CSM
|
 |
Fixture of Dakka
|
I think the usage for the Storm Eagle is pretty obvious tbh: fill it full of hard-as-nails assault troops and shove them down the throat of the enemy.
Storm Ravens are used for similar purposes, but have less transport capacity. A fast assault ramp is incredibly effective for delivering assault units in a manner whereby the opponent can do little to stop it.
And, being Chaos, there's many viable types of assault units you could use, termies and 'zerkers chief amongst these. This could also provide a solid delivery method for Abaddon and Kharne.
|
Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/09 13:08:07
Subject: Air Cav CSM
|
 |
Arch Magos w/ 4 Meg of RAM
|
I thought of that too, but think about how that'd look on the board. 20 Berserkers is 420 points, plus the 205 point transport. That's a 625 point AV12 model. If you bring two, they're your entire army. It's really hard to provide target saturation for those models since their entire purpose is force-concentration.
I think you can take one per thousand points or so. You can probably fit two at 1850. Like a Decimator's Seige Claws, its capacity is only useful in Apoc and should be ignored in standard play.
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/09 13:12:46
Subject: Re:Air Cav CSM
|
 |
Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
|
Maybe run 15 zerkrs w hq in each?
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/09 13:20:38
Subject: Air Cav CSM
|
 |
Fixture of Dakka
|
DarkHound wrote:I thought of that too, but think about how that'd look on the board. 20 Berserkers is 420 points, plus the 205 point transport. That's a 625 point AV12 model. If you bring two, they're your entire army. It's really hard to provide target saturation for those models since their entire purpose is force-concentration.
I think you can take one per thousand points or so. You can probably fit two at 1850. Like a Decimator's Seige Claws, its capacity is only useful in Apoc and should be ignored in standard play.
I completely agree. 2 is too many at 1500pts.
However, 600pts transports doesn't stop people using Land Raider Crusaders or Storm Ravens.
I find Vindicators worthwhile sources of target saturation; with AV13 and a Demolisher Cannon they need to be taken out. Only problem is they also occupy a heavy support slot. Daemon Princes with Wings and Close Combat Dreads could provide other sources of target saturation?
|
Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/09 13:58:04
Subject: Air Cav CSM
|
 |
Arch Magos w/ 4 Meg of RAM
|
Stormeagles are Fast Attack instead of Heavy Support. Something like: Prince, Wings, MoN, 150 Dreadnought, MM, HF, 105 Dreadnought, MM, HF, 105 10 CSM, 2 Meltaguns, Rhino, 205 20 CSM, MoK, 2 Meltaguns, 355 Stormeagle, Reaper, 205 Vindicator, 125 Vindicator, 125 Vindicator, 125 Personally, I was looking at: Chaos Lord, MoT, Death Screamer, 145 Greater Daemon, 100 Dreadnought, MM, Heavy Flamer, 105 7 Possessed, IoN, Champ, Rhino, 277 8 PMs, Icon, 2 Meltaguns, Champ, 224 5 Noise Marines, 4 SB, 1 BM, Icon, 165 7 Lesser Daemons, 91 Stormeagle, TL-MM, 220 Predator, Lascannons, 165 The Lord and PMs would serve as the spearhead, followed by the Possessed and Daemons. The Stormeagle is so fast I think I can consider its cargo among my long-ranged shooting options.
|
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/04/09 13:59:50
|
|
|
 |
 |
|
|