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@WarOne: There are plenty of ways to contribute to Dakka. Generally, figure out what you want to do with this hobby, find people who have done similar things, connect with them, put the resulting knowledge into action, come back here and share the information. What's cool is how this doesn't just end up being a rehashing of the same stuff, but rather people keep finding new ways to enjoy their hobby with people all over.

Manchu wrote:Generally, figure out what you want to do with this hobby, find people who have done similar things, connect with them, put the resulting knowledge into action, come back here and share the information.

Interacting...with PEOPLE?!?!?

But in all seriousness, I think that there is little more that I can contribute that others before me have done so. I frequent the Dakka Swap Shop and attempt to set an example in how to be a good trader. However, there are three moderators there who enforce that already so the individual contribution is not too significant.

I could start an Ork tactica thread as I have learned a great deal about the ins and outs of the Ork army, but I believe other, better posters can emphasize the Ork tactica better as there is already a good tactical article up and a wealth of information to be had by DashofPepper's posts.

Third procrastination I don't feel like finis-

The short version is that there are others out there with the experience and knowledge to contribute immediately that I will have to work towards for the future. Until then, all I can do is watch and learn, post where I can and call it a day and a job well done when I don't have to wait for that suspension to roll around.

AgeOfEgos wrote:[Have a year's vacation from Dakka now and rethink how you interact here]

I see that he got his DCM's money's worth.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

AgeOfEgos wrote:[Have a year's vacation from Dakka now and rethink how you interact here]

I see that he got his DCM's money's worth.

Amusing stuff.

A year? That is a particularly large banhammer. What, in summary terms, was so bad to get kicked of a forum for a year. With some of the stuff I have seen posted on here I wonder what qualifies for a year ban.

Guys, it was just a joke by AgeOfEgos.

No-one has edited that post.

That was a good one!

Clever, clever...

I think it's more worrying that I expected it to be real.

And even more worrying that my mind instantly knew who the Mod in question would be (were it real).

Alpharius wrote:That was a good one!

Clever, clever...

ha - that was amusing - totally got me. What an amusing witch !

edit: had fingers crossed for swear filter.

If he wanted to be really sneaky, he would've edited his own post. As it was, I knew it was a farce since there was no tiny "This message has been edited 1 time..." note at the bottom

Not bad, though! Not bad at all... might be an amusing way to imply what you want to say in certain circumstances, although it'd probably be a problem if it really caught on

I think the mod team is a little too quick on the thread locking button, and some of the passive aggressiveness can be annoying, but overall a much better forum than any other 40k messages boards that I've come across.

One thing to keep in mind if dakka wants to use GW copy-right etc, ESPECIALLY considering their good relations with GW, which they have, the communication on the board has to set a certain standard -- not to mention it is worthwhile taking the time, even working, in the [MOD]'s case to maintain that standard, even improve the standard.

RiTides wrote:If he wanted to be really sneaky, he would've edited his own post. As it was, I knew it was a farce since there was no tiny "This message has been edited 1 time..." note at the bottom

Not bad, though! Not bad at all... might be an amusing way to imply what you want to say in certain circumstances, although it'd probably be a problem if it really caught on

So I guess he should have posted part of it, then gone back in and edited it.

Alpharius wrote:That was a good one!

Clever, clever...

fullheadofhair wrote:

Alpharius wrote:That was a good one!

Clever, clever...

ha - that was amusing - totally got me. What an amusing witch !

edit: had fingers crossed for swear filter.

Just something to lighten the mood...

RiTides wrote:If he wanted to be really sneaky, he would've edited his own post. As it was, I knew it was a farce since there was no tiny "This message has been edited 1 time..." note at the bottom

Not bad, though! Not bad at all... might be an amusing way to imply what you want to say in certain circumstances, although it'd probably be a problem if it really caught on

I didn't think of that. The day is yours RiTides....but I don't sleep. I wait. And plan.

Polonius wrote:Well, I haven't posted an army list here in over a year because there's simply no decent feedback, I rarely give feedback because I'll invariably be told that they don't' want to use the units I suggest, the tactics forum is full of mediocre players passing off their "wisdom" like it's holy writ. P&M is cool, although you have to paint virtually golden demon quality to get any appreciable feedback.

So, yeah, I think things have gone a bit down.

this is pretty true. thou i think there are some really cool things such as the space marine swap

Sageheart wrote:

Polonius wrote:Well, I haven't posted an army list here in over a year because there's simply no decent feedback, I rarely give feedback because I'll invariably be told that they don't' want to use the units I suggest, the tactics forum is full of mediocre players passing off their "wisdom" like it's holy writ. P&M is cool, although you have to paint virtually golden demon quality to get any appreciable feedback.

So, yeah, I think things have gone a bit down.

this is pretty true. thou i think there are some really cool things such as the space marine swap

Actually the part about the P&M is absolutely wrong. The only thing that can be said is, that most people just read and dont comment.
I really want to see all these blogs that dont get feedback and/or get flamed to hell because of "not GD standard".

I have put a few things in P and M blogs and pretty much got zip.
To be fair there were some early stage WIP's. But I specifically wanted some feedback as a newb to the hobby to get an idea where to take the projects.

I am probably not going to bother anymore.
Have had more response to similar concept WHFB posts I started tbh

It could always be worse.....?

The thing is, no news is not good news on the P&M blogs if you are a neurotic like me.

It suggests that people are just being to polite to say how gakky the stuff is :(
So not really!

Where I have asked for feedback there has been little to none. Even someone saying I was barking up the wrong tree would have been useful since I was at the concept stage and wanting to go on and develop ideas.

I get the impression that if it not already in full colour then people won't engage. Which is not helpful if you are new to the hobby and wanting some guidance from more experienced hobbyists/gamers.
By the time the project is in full colour, unless it is a test piece for an army scheme, advice is too late.

The only advice left to give is the "add wash and or dry brush" variety.
WIP entails everything from concept upto finished article
and not just the final touches imho
Sorry am tired and rambling

Dashofpepper wrote:Holy crap Deadshane. That's the story of my life on Dakka.

Great example here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/266425.page

Noob says, "I need advice with my list."
I say, "Alright, X, Y, Z."
Noob says, "STFU, not everyone agrees with your drivel on how to play Orks."
Thread spins out of control.

Same goes for P&M Blogs who do not want you to criticise their crap.

If you put something on the internet and hope for 100% positive replies, you are delusional.

If something is fantastic/GD standard, I will praise it... however, if I can do better, I will tell you where you went wrong and how to improve it.

Besides from the gakky search bar, Dakka is my favorite. Besides from the occasional troll (far less than other sites), this site is great. Decent feedback; a nice community. It hasn't changed much since I joined, but I joined because it is a nice forum. I guess I spend the majority of my time on the 40k gen. discussions and dakka discussions, and both of these places are great. Most of the tutorials are great and helpful. Just please, update the search.

AvatarForm wrote:

Dashofpepper wrote:Holy crap Deadshane. That's the story of my life on Dakka.

Great example here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/266425.page

Noob says, "I need advice with my list."
I say, "Alright, X, Y, Z."
Noob says, "STFU, not everyone agrees with your drivel on how to play Orks."
Thread spins out of control.

Same goes for P&M Blogs who do not want you to criticise their crap.

If you put something on the internet and hope for 100% positive replies, you are delusional.

If something is fantastic/GD standard, I will praise it... however, if I can do better, I will tell you where you went wrong and how to improve it.

While i agree with what you've said(to a point), there are ways people can "advise" without being a complete a$$hat. especially to the inexperienced noobs. if they bring it on themselves that's different.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:I have put a few things in P and M blogs and pretty much got zip.
To be fair there were some early stage WIP's. But I specifically wanted some feedback as a newb to the hobby to get an idea where to take the projects.

I am probably not going to bother anymore.
Have had more response to similar concept WHFB posts I started tbh

I must be unbelievable good then as i get feedback and have regular readers. Sorry but im not that good and never was at a GD (i plan to in the future but there is much improvement needed first).
Oh and now we both have argued with anecdotal evidence i believe ... But well i really looked to quite a few Blogs and usually only the people who like what is posted give feedback. Of course thats just my personal impression...

What i found actually amusing.. it sure helps if your a female and post on P&M... its like with the welcome board . And i actually found the stuff someone posted from you in the paper tank thread really good .
I surely would have commented on those had i seen them.

Cheers

Dashofpepper wrote:
Holy crap Deadshane. That's the story of my life on Dakka.

Great example here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/266425.page

Noob says, "I need advice with my list."
I say, "Alright, X, Y, Z."
Noob says, "STFU, not everyone agrees with your drivel on how to play Orks."
Thread spins out of control.

A better approach might have been:

Noob says, "I need advice with my list."
I say, "Alright, X, Y, Z."
Noob says, "STFU, not everyone agrees with your drivel on how to play Orks."
I yellow flag his post for rudeness.
A moderator takes appropriate action.
The thread doesn't spin out of control.

I must be unbelievable good then as i get feedback and have regular readers. Sorry but im not that good and never was at a GD (i plan to in the future but there is much

improvement needed first).
Oh and now we both have argued with anecdotal evidence i believe ... But well i really looked to quite a few Blogs and usually only the people who like what is posted give feedback. Of course thats just my personal impression...

Must be just me then

But if others are getting feedback in P&M, then that is good news.
off to sulk and feel sorry for myself now...
*Violin*

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:I must be unbelievable good then as i get feedback and have regular readers. Sorry but im not that good and never was at a GD (i plan to in the future but there is much

improvement needed first).
Oh and now we both have argued with anecdotal evidence i believe ... But well i really looked to quite a few Blogs and usually only the people who like what is posted give feedback. Of course thats just my personal impression...

Must be just me then

But if others are getting feedback in P&M, then that is good news.
off to sulk and feel sorry for myself now...
*Violin*

Sometimes people just miss things, you know?

Why not link to your pics in your sig?

There are some amazing P&M threads out there, but they got lost easily.
The best fix would be a better search function, but I understand that Legoburner is a busy man and that's a monster job. Until it's done, a temporary fix might be the use of subfora to streamline out the content. Faction specific, setting specific, stage of development specific- it wouldn't really matter, it'd just be to help people find projects they are interested in.
For tactics, using tags for posts would be really useful. [Casual] and [Competative] tags would help people choose threads to read and so on.
I've gotten better feedback in WFB tactics and lists than in 40K. 40K went downhill maybe a year ago (possibly even before that) and hasn't really had much going on. Shep and a couple of others discussing the Tyranid codex was a really good read though, I thoroughly enjoyed it even though I don't play nids (or 40K anymore, really).

Sometimes people just miss things, you know?

Why not link to your pics in your sig

?

You expect me to come up with a simple but effective solution like that?
To quote Bugs Bunny, "He don't know me vewwy well, do he?"

Going by the number of views though....

*sulks some more*

Thanks, duly noted.

We dislike sub-fora because of the dangers of ghettoisation, and of marginalisation of less popular content areas.

Shall I start a "Vote for this 3" sticky thread? The original purpose was to get people visiting the Gallery. I think it has been reasonably successful.

Other possibilities are to look at the Articles, or the P&M Blogs. Forums are not intended to be a long term archive of easily accessible content. It is only the persistence and the searchability of hypertext that makes them any use for that purpose.

It should be noted that the majority of visitors to the site never post or vote anything, they only read and look.

I agree that too many sub-fora leads to stagnation (any board with dedicated forums for each army runs into that). As Dakka grows, new boards have been added when the nature of discussion changes. Seperating Competitive and Casual Tactics is a pretty organic split. It's not even a quality issue: I'd love to talk Apoc tactics, or how best to use the contents of the Ork Battleforce in a game, but that's a different conversation than discussing how Mech IG should handle SW missile spam.

Competitive tactics are only limited by the rules, while all other tactical conversations have limits based on comp, theme, model availability, etc.