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Imagine NFLC o_O
There were a couple of rumors that mintioned the possibility of that for Characheters.

Ehsteve wrote:

Jaon wrote:Whoops

Okay okay well theres something I have been wondering about for a long time.

Early early rumours said that TAGK could mix and match NFW/SB with TH/SS. Any news or confirmation on this? Can they get lightning claws?

I really wanna field NFW/SS TAGK, it would be bad ass.

While they would be badass, sounds awfully cheesy.

I could only imagine they being either NFW/SB or TH/SS and no mix, but then again we still have two and a half months until the shiny new codex is in hand...

Not to mention supremely expensive even if it was allowed.

However the models would look absolutely awesome with a NFW/SS, channelling some of the 'space knight' fluff in the right direction.

What I would actually really like to see is maybe a storm shield the in PAGK box. I mean it would be awesome to have a NFW/SS justicar in power armour leading a squad of PAGK. Hopefully it would be a little more ornate than the current assault marine variant...

Is it so wrong to want NFW/SB with a 2+/3++ save? I mean they will be costed to be balanced but isnt that what you want in a gk army? Priced right but modles really powered up (hey can i get 2 wound as well?).

A) Is the rumor about power armor -human, not astartes- crusaders still viewed as valid?

-Assuming that A is true:

B) Could they in fact be the genesis of why some people though SoB would be in the Codex? The general description of power armored non astartes with bolters/power weaons is pretty SoB like...

C) Any chance these could infact be modeled on a Male version of SoB power armor? (Or perhaps a revamped version of arbites?

D) Any realistic chance these guys -what ever they look like- might get a plastic set?

Because in all honesty, outside of bits that will surely be super useful to create custodes from (probably) its these crusaders who have me very excited - I hope they are both real, and live up to the hype my mind is building around them!

Gibbsey wrote:

Ehsteve wrote:

Jaon wrote:Whoops

Okay okay well theres something I have been wondering about for a long time.

Early early rumours said that TAGK could mix and match NFW/SB with TH/SS. Any news or confirmation on this? Can they get lightning claws?

I really wanna field NFW/SS TAGK, it would be bad ass.

While they would be badass, sounds awfully cheesy.

I could only imagine they being either NFW/SB or TH/SS and no mix, but then again we still have two and a half months until the shiny new codex is in hand...

Not to mention supremely expensive even if it was allowed.

However the models would look absolutely awesome with a NFW/SS, channelling some of the 'space knight' fluff in the right direction.

What I would actually really like to see is maybe a storm shield the in PAGK box. I mean it would be awesome to have a NFW/SS justicar in power armour leading a squad of PAGK. Hopefully it would be a little more ornate than the current assault marine variant...

Is it so wrong to want NFW/SB with a 2+/3++ save? I mean they will be costed to be balanced but isnt that what you want in a gk army? Priced right but modles really powered up (hey can i get 2 wound as well?).

I would only expect GW to allow NFW/SS if they REALLY wanted to sell their models like hot cakes.

Either way I'd still make NFW/SS models as squad leaders. Even if they're counts as NFW/SB.

What would be awesome is a Thunder Hammer which is a force weapon. Know it's one of the most unlikely things to happen, but it would be epic verses say...carnifexs/hive tyrants. Generally things which can't be instant killed with S8 weapons.

Ehsteve wrote:

Gibbsey wrote:

Ehsteve wrote:

Jaon wrote:Whoops

Okay okay well theres something I have been wondering about for a long time.

Early early rumours said that TAGK could mix and match NFW/SB with TH/SS. Any news or confirmation on this? Can they get lightning claws?

I really wanna field NFW/SS TAGK, it would be bad ass.

While they would be badass, sounds awfully cheesy.

I could only imagine they being either NFW/SB or TH/SS and no mix, but then again we still have two and a half months until the shiny new codex is in hand...

Not to mention supremely expensive even if it was allowed.

However the models would look absolutely awesome with a NFW/SS, channelling some of the 'space knight' fluff in the right direction.

What I would actually really like to see is maybe a storm shield the in PAGK box. I mean it would be awesome to have a NFW/SS justicar in power armour leading a squad of PAGK. Hopefully it would be a little more ornate than the current assault marine variant...

Is it so wrong to want NFW/SB with a 2+/3++ save? I mean they will be costed to be balanced but isnt that what you want in a gk army? Priced right but modles really powered up (hey can i get 2 wound as well?).

I would only expect GW to allow NFW/SS if they REALLY wanted to sell their models like hot cakes.

Either way I'd still make NFW/SS models as squad leaders. Even if they're counts as NFW/SB.

What would be awesome is a Thunder Hammer which is a force weapon. Know it's one of the most unlikely things to happen, but it would be epic verses say...carnifexs/hive tyrants. Generally things which can't be instant killed with S8 weapons.

Point A: Taking an SS would assumebley replace the SB, lest they be overpowered. You cant have a 3++, a 2+, a power weapon, the benefits of a NFW (whatever they may be), and a ranged weapon. Especially not on a single wound model. It would be beyond cheesy, it would also be suicidal.

Point B: It would be nice to have a Nemesis force weapon daemon hammer Strikes at initiative (5?), 2+ strength (10), instant death, power weapon.

Jaon wrote:Point A: Taking an SS would assumebley replace the SB, lest they be overpowered. You cant have a 3++, a 2+, a power weapon, the benefits of a NFW (whatever they may be), and a ranged weapon. Especially not on a single wound model. It would be beyond cheesy, it would also be suicidal.

Point B: It would be nice to have a Nemesis force weapon daemon hammer Strikes at initiative (5?), 2+ strength (10), instant death, power weapon.

Right that settles it:

2+/ 3++ save
Nemesis force weapon daemon hammer Strikes at initiative (5?), 2+ strength (10), instant death, power weapon
StormBolter
2 wounds
toughness 5

80pts each?

Oh well we have to remember that storm bolters are wrist mounted, so how about:

2 str 5 rending storm bolters with psycannon bolts
2 NFW Daemonhammers with stormshields attached
2 wounds
toughness 5

Works out to be arrouuund 120 points

Jaon wrote:Oh well we have to remember that storm bolters are wrist mounted, so how about:

2 str 5 rending storm bolters with psycannon bolts
2 NFW Daemonhammers with stormshields attached
2 wounds
toughness 5

Works out to be arrouuund 120 points

Worth it.

Imagine the look on your opponnents face when takes you a full minute and a half to explain all the awesomeness that these TAGK's do. I could already see this MC Nid player at my FLGS. His three Mawlocs would gak their preverbiel pants at the idea of getting close to em.

I am really excited that the new dex is on its way and I cant wait to buy some and restart my GK army.

Interesting, a MC in a Grey Knights army...

What I'm hoping is that despite the sheer awesomeness of TAGK that I'll still be able to run PAGK effectively without seriously gimping myself somehow.


Also, boo on the removal of Stormies as standard Troops. Good thing I've got Coteaz's model though =p

I'm gonna be doing TAGK spam, with maaybe 10-20 troops sitting on objectives. Maybe land raiders all round, that'd be cool...

Hopolite termies ftw

I'm not sure if I've said this before, but I'll say it again. This is the ONLY army update I've been excited for in over a year. This is excluding the Dark Eldar, because seriously, who the hell saw that one coming?

They are discussing a rumor regarding Jokaero on Warseer. It seems it's being tossed around that they will make an appearance in the Heavy Support slot...which I think is lol worthy.

Jokaero - shouldn't they begone since M32?

AgeOfEgos wrote:They are discussing a rumor regarding Jokaero on Warseer. It seems it's being tossed around that they will make an appearance in the Heavy Support slot...which I think is lol worthy.

That's about as likely as orks joining with steel legion. Not gonna happen.
I'll laugh if squats are a unit in IG...Oh...ratlings...

crazypsyko666 wrote:I'm not sure if I've said this before, but I'll say it again. This is the ONLY army update I've been excited for in over a year. This is excluding the Dark Eldar, because seriously, who the hell saw that one coming?

I did too bad now everybody plays dark eldar even the guys who where always hatefull towards my old dark eldar now play dark eldar which pisses me off. plus i dont really like the way they are now i preffered my old emo elfs
so i am now looking for a new army and if the grey knights would be playable as a all terminator army with out the use of a SC i would be totally playing this. so what i am trying to ask is who thinks this is possible? a full terminator army without the use of a SC?

crazypsyko666 wrote:if the grey knights would be playable as a all terminator army with out the use of a SC i would be totally playing this. so what i am trying to ask is who thinks this is possible? a full terminator army without the use of a SC?

I hope so, that would be awesome!!

That is how the army is supposed to be played I thought, with Terminator armor being their standard, and PA being the Scout equivalent? Or am I wrong?

Hopolite termies ftw

I'm looking forward to the new Grey Knight plastics, but I already did Hoplite Terminators two years ago for my Spears Of Ares Space Marines by conversion. The Venerable Dreadnought was even featured on GW's What's New Today last March at this link.







I'm still waiting to see some juicy rumors on the price of the new plastics and what if anything we're getting besides Grey Knights in two kinds of armor. Also, notice the GK logos on the new Stormraven sprue pictures shown elsewhere on the forum? Looks like fun.

ThunderfireMac wrote:

crazypsyko666 wrote:if the grey knights would be playable as a all terminator army with out the use of a SC i would be totally playing this. so what i am trying to ask is who thinks this is possible? a full terminator army without the use of a SC?

I hope so, that would be awesome!!

The newest and most credible rumors say that Terminators are standard troops, with special Terminators in the elite slot that can be taken as troops with a SC. So you get your pick of Terminators.

AgeOfEgos wrote:They are discussing a rumor regarding Jokaero on Warseer. It seems it's being tossed around that they will make an appearance in the Heavy Support slot...which I think is lol worthy.

Less "discussing", more calling it slowed. Especially since it originates from someone who spouted DE rumors that turned out to be crap.

Hmm, special Terminators, Super-Tactical-Dreadnought-Armor?

AgeOfEgos wrote:They are discussing a rumor regarding Jokaero on Warseer. It seems it's being tossed around that they will make an appearance in the Heavy Support slot...which I think is lol worthy.

Well, this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVmLFsC3Ok4 says that Jokaeroes in Heavy Support are fact.
Not the Jokaeroes with lasers in their fingers ("digital weapons"), but something like obliterators, with no models in the first wave.
So something like this, only with Orang Utans instead of Gorillas:



I see no reason why this "rumour" should have any credibility.

Kroothawk wrote:

AgeOfEgos wrote:They are discussing a rumor regarding Jokaero on Warseer. It seems it's being tossed around that they will make an appearance in the Heavy Support slot...which I think is lol worthy.

Well, this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVmLFsC3Ok4 says that Jokaeroes in Heavy Support are fact.
Not the Jokaeroes with lasers in their fingers ("digital weapons"), but something like obliterators, with no models in the first wave.
So something like this, only with Orang Utans instead of Gorillas:



I see no reason why this "rumour" should have any credibility.

I wonder if you can attach an Inquisitor to that unit....

Footsloggin wrote:Hmm, special Terminators, Super-Tactical-Dreadnought-Armor?

2 wounds and FNP to be more precise.

I would love to see Jokaero and digital weapons finally have the place in 40k their history within the universe deserves... but in GK??? I don't get it... Inquisitors I could get, but with marines, not so much. I know it's an extremely thin distinction with this army and codex in particular, but still, I dunno, seems weird.

"The place in 40k their history within the universe deserves"?

You mean space orangutans who had lasers and were exterminated?

Damn, that's a hell of a history.

All seriousness, Jokaero are about as likely as Chaos Daemons being able to field Grey Knights.

Take your stinking paws off my codex, you damn dirty ape!

Well, they were frequently mentioned back in the day, I remember them from WD's and the Draco novels, never in person, at the time, they were one of the bigger mysteries for me in 40k, before that became standard for absolutely everything lol! Old ones, Slaan, Jokaero and yes, even those frisky little fuzzballs the squats, I miss em. No idea how to work em back in even if this turned out to be true, not really as insanely out there drug trip sci-fi as it used to be lol.

The orangutans thing... that could use a bit of a touch up though lol!