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MajorTom11 wrote:Well, they were frequently mentioned back in the day, I remember them from WD's and the Draco novels, never in person, at the time, they were one of the bigger mysteries for me in 40k, before that became standard for absolutely everything lol! Old ones, Slaan, Jokaero and yes, even those frisky little fuzzballs the squats, I miss em. No idea how to work em back in even if this turned out to be true, not really as insanely out there drug trip sci-fi as it used to be lol.

The orangutans thing... that could use a bit of a touch up though lol!

the only way I could probably take them seriously is if they were completely armoured with no exposed pieces. Making them grimdark seems a little difficult unless they turned them into imperial slaves or something. Before you know it PETA would be up at GW protesting they were promoting animal cruelty.

What I don't get however is why they would be adding them now. Why would space apes be fighting daemons!?


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Yeah. Jokaero would be so much more appropriate as a "heavy shock" unit for the Tau Empire.

...Damnit. Now I'm wanting power armored apes with hammers.
   
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I think I remember some story about the Imperium keeping a group of Jokaero in isolation and just giving them random bits of scrap, which they then turned into advanced devices and weapons, but eventually they got bored of being kept as captives and built something that let them teleport out of captivity. In general they don't really seem like the type of unit that would be active on the battlefield, so I give that rumor very little credence. On the other hand, GW has been promoting some of the old 2nd ed stuff, so it's possible that the Jokaero and stuff could make a comeback, but that seems more like something that would be in the fluff instead of in the game.
   
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crazypsyko666 wrote:if the grey knights would be playable as a all terminator army with out the use of a SC i would be totally playing this. so what i am trying to ask is who thinks this is possible? a full terminator army without the use of a SC?


I hope so, that would be awesome!!
When did I say this?

EDIT: And with such bad punctuation?

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Kanluwen wrote:Yeah. Jokaero would be so much more appropriate as a "heavy shock" unit for the Tau Empire.
...Damnit. Now I'm wanting power armored apes with hammers.

Are power fists okay as well?



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I just want to know what the codex will offer for Daemonhunters that lean more to the Inquisition-side than the GK. Heck, even confirmation that its removed from the grey knights and SoBs and put into a Codex: Inquisition would be nice.

 
   
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IMO the whole apes w GK thing sounds really dumb. Its supposed to be a part of the Inq and hugely xenophobic. To throw in giant alien techno apes would be terrible. Sounds like a bad fit with the fluff.

However, I dont care if they do. Im looking forward to the minis only, and if they did some cool techno apes I may pick some up. As long as they do something cool, Im up for any minis they want to put out.

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gigantic apes with Grey Knights ? They've got to be kidding I hope!

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Mad4Minis wrote:IMO the whole apes w GK thing sounds really dumb. Its supposed to be a part of the Inq and hugely xenophobic. To throw in giant alien techno apes would be terrible. Sounds like a bad fit with the fluff.

However, I dont care if they do. Im looking forward to the minis only, and if they did some cool techno apes I may pick some up. As long as they do something cool, Im up for any minis they want to put out.


I think they make some sense as a background element (as they were in the previous Inquisition Codices, where they were kind of hinted at with regards to Digital Weapons. The Inquisition, like much of the 40k setting, is more than a little hypocritical. Keeping a bunch of Xenos around because they make cool tech gadgets is just par for the course, really.

The hyper-intelligent monkey part is a little rough, but could probably be reworked to fit the setting. Maybe tweak it a bit. Sure they 'resemble apes' but that's not saying a lot... Some people fit that description, after all. Maybe add some weirdness in: they're always seen in robes and elaborate collars, perhaps. Or they've got some other weird shtick that isn't a veiled reference to monkey cliches. They're 'prisoners' in the sense that they are kept deep in the facilities of those that isn't beholden to the Adeptus Mechanicus, but they're treated (to the amusement of themselves and their minders) as 'honored guests.' Shown around Imperial facilities, given anything (reasonable) they want, etc.

I'm a bit iffy about seeing them on the tabletop, but if the background is interesting it could work. Seems like a better idea to save for some sort of Apocalypse-style "Weird Stuff" book that could also be used to try out stuff like Genestealer Cults, Tau Auxilliaries, and some of the other weird 40k lore that has mostly been removed from the tabletop. Make it explicitly not-tournament-friendly and use the tools that they have (Apocalypse formations and such) to make people happy.

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KOS wrote:gigantic apes with Grey Knights ? They've got to be kidding I hope!


I'd have to think they are.

We're definitely in the stage of GK rumors where we've long ago left wishlisting by the side of the road, and are firmly in acid nightmare territory...
   
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OK here's a question, where is it stated taht the DH codex is invalid when the GK book comes out?

Yeah, obviously if SM v5 comes out then SM v4 is dead. But it's not as obvious that book on a marine chapter replaces a book on an ordo.

Is it possible we could argue the old book is still in play?

 
   
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Kid_Kyoto wrote:OK here's a question, where is it stated taht the DH codex is invalid when the GK book comes out?

Yeah, obviously if SM v5 comes out then SM v4 is dead. But it's not as obvious that book on a marine chapter replaces a book on an ordo.

Is it possible we could argue the old book is still in play?

I don't know how you could argue the old book is "still in play", when it was pretty much Codex: Grey Knights even then
   
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Kid_Kyoto wrote:OK here's a question, where is it stated taht the DH codex is invalid when the GK book comes out?

Yeah, obviously if SM v5 comes out then SM v4 is dead. But it's not as obvious that book on a marine chapter replaces a book on an ordo.

Is it possible we could argue the old book is still in play?


where is it stated that when sm v5 comes out then sm v4 is dead? it's just a convention that you use the most modern version of a codex and it's quite a stretch to say that codex GK isn't the new version of codex daemonhunter considering most of the units are carrying over to the new one. could you play with the old one? sure, if your opponent says so. this whole game is a social contract with nonbinding rules and using the most modern version is one of them. i certainly wouldn't bat an eyelash if someone wanted to use the old one because their army was being invalidated like the case of an inducted IG/allied SM DH army (but not in the case if it just getting nerfed a bit like nids).
   
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Kid_Kyoto wrote:OK here's a question, where is it stated taht the DH codex is invalid when the GK book comes out?

Yeah, obviously if SM v5 comes out then SM v4 is dead. But it's not as obvious that book on a marine chapter replaces a book on an ordo.

Is it possible we could argue the old book is still in play?


where is it stated that when sm v5 comes out then sm v4 is dead? it's just a convention that you use the most modern version of a codex and it's quite a stretch to say that codex GK isn't the new version of codex daemonhunter considering most of the units are carrying over to the new one. could you play with the old one? sure, if your opponent says so. this whole game is a social contract with nonbinding rules and using the most modern version is one of them. i certainly wouldn't bat an eyelash if someone wanted to use the old one because their army was being invalidated like the case of an inducted IG/allied SM DH army (but not in the case if it just getting nerfed a bit like nids).


he's arguing that v4 would be dead because its called codex: space marines the new version replaces the old because it has the same name and is the most current version. So how would a tournement react to you taking codex:demonhunters instead of codex:grey knights? where does it (will it) say that grey knights is the current version of demonhunters?
   
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Kid_Kyoto wrote:OK here's a question, where is it stated taht the DH codex is invalid when the GK book comes out?

Yeah, obviously if SM v5 comes out then SM v4 is dead. But it's not as obvious that book on a marine chapter replaces a book on an ordo.

Is it possible we could argue the old book is still in play?
Well, we can't say for certain whether or not this is going to be Codex: Grey Knights. It's just another rumor. It looks like there's going to be about as much GK to =][= as the last time, with the added emphasis of heroes and leaders that 40k seems to be headed.

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Techno apes seem more something for Ordos Xenos, for Radical Inquisitors.

 
   
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I think the rumour about the Jokaero being in the codex (if true). Might just be a reference to the history of digital weapons in the fluff section, as opposed to actual models.
   
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Kid_Kyoto wrote:OK here's a question, where is it stated taht the DH codex is invalid when the GK book comes out?

Yeah, obviously if SM v5 comes out then SM v4 is dead. But it's not as obvious that book on a marine chapter replaces a book on an ordo.

Is it possible we could argue the old book is still in play?


Most tournaments seem to list the valid codexes for that specific tournament. If TO's stop listing CH, then for all intents and purposes it's dead. Now you can use whatever you want for basement/garage games, so your LotD could face off against a Harlequin army or Genestealer Cults!

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i hope they get the monkeys than i van make a monkey chapter. space monkeys there even cooler than space sharks and space wolves. now i despertly wanna make a space buttterflies army.

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johnstewartjohn wrote:I think the rumour about the Jokaero being in the codex (if true). Might just be a reference to the history of digital weapons in the fluff section, as opposed to actual models.


I'm thinking that as well. No idea how reliable Fitz usually is with rumors.
   
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OK, tell me about Daemonhosts.

I currently have a Radical Daemonhunters army and love my Daemonhosts.

I would be devastated if they were now unplayable.
   
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kiwitexansfan wrote:OK, tell me about Daemonhosts.

I currently have a Radical Daemonhunters army and love my Daemonhosts.

I would be devastated if they were now unplayable.


you may not want to be near any stores then in april. the rumors are that your type of army is being marginalized significantly.
   
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Well rereading the rumours it says they can be part of the expanded retinue options.

I am wondering if that means they will be made much more simple, something like lesser daemons in stat lines, rather than the fun unit they are right now.


Another thought, every codex apart from Necrons has at least two standard troop options. From what I've gathered only PAGK are troops without special character jiggery pokery, I doubt that there would only be one troop option standard.... well I hope not at least. I would really like to think there was SOME option for us Inquisition players.
   
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kiwitexansfan wrote:Another thought, every codex apart from Necrons has at least two standard troop options. From what I've gathered only PAGK are troops without special character jiggery pokery, I doubt that there would only be one troop option standard.... well I hope not at least. I would really like to think there was SOME option for us Inquisition players.

The same source you got the retinue option also says that Terminators are standard troops.

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Plus Stormtroopers, but only via 'unlocking' via SC.

Which I thought was the case with the Terminators as Troops too?
   
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1hadhq wrote:Jokaero - shouldn't they begone since M32?


I don't THINK so, they still talk about them being around making digital weapons in M41...


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Alpharius wrote:Plus Stormtroopers, but only via 'unlocking' via SC.

Which I thought was the case with the Terminators as Troops too?

Supposedly Terminators as standard troops, and those 2 wound Terminators as troops via a SC (otherwise elites).

8000 points of XI Legion the Space Vagabonds, they can adapt their tactics to represent any and every Legion and Chapter as needed because they were created by the Emperor to be the ultimate tactical power. They have faked their disappearance in order to infiltrate every part of the conflicts in the galaxy.

8000 points of Tau/Craftworld Eldar/Necron because the Space Vagabonds can also emulate their wargear and tactics.

Victories: ALL
Losses: NONE (My armies have the psychic ability to conjure a cataclysmic storm whenever they are about to lose. This allows the Space Vagabonds to teleport away while releasing power waves that destroys the battlefield and so every battle is a victory)

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+1 wound for each terminator as a S rule?!
Wow, I hoped we'd stop this army-boosting SC fad...
at least it doesn't sh** up the FOC...
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