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I have to agree with Scipio. I like the idea of the miniatures but honestly I'm having trouble commiting because I'm not a fan of a single one their fantasy ranges at the moment. If I do throw in it'll be for a fair amount of the "Celestial Army" and I'll be shooting in the dark.

I just find almost all their models weirdly proportioned (i.e. dwarves, elves, and orcs) though the gobbos are very nice.

Now when they eventually kickstart Warpath you can bet you butt I'm gonna be deeply committing to that as I mostly like the not-squats and not-space skaven.

The Goblins are really nice and I would go with them, but I don't think I can get over the fact that they missed out on the plastic conversion that the Palace Guard and the Infernal Guard got. Metal arms in 2012 just doesn't make sense.

The $225 deal you get isn't that much better than the mega army set you can order on the website, also.

MasterSlowPoke wrote:The Goblins are really nice and I would go with them, but I don't think I can get over the fact that they missed out on the plastic conversion that the Palace Guard and the Infernal Guard got. Metal arms in 2012 just doesn't make sense.

The $225 deal you get isn't that much better than the mega army set you can order on the website, also.

I believe it's been stated before, the mega army deal on the website does not include the hardbound rulebook, dice, vampiress and orc wizard. Also, does not include all the free models you get from the stretch goals which should be close to 50 models already plus the battlewagon/chariot thing. Also, does not give you access to the BOGO on new models. And that only counts the models. If we were to include the advanced copies in electronic format of the new rulebook and supplement, you get so much more. So, it actually IS better than the mega army deal on the website.

^ Yeah, as stated in the first post (which I've been updating for the past month), you get $738 of stuff for $225 if you buy that goblin army.

70% discount.

Metal arms are a little bit of a pain, but aren't quite as horrible as people might think. I have units of hybrid empire handgunners from over a decade ago which stuck together with superglue and not one of them has broken since. It's mainly an issue if the parts don't fit well, or are top-heavy like on the horrible old marine devastators.

No harm in waiting for plastic for them though, the archers are all-plastic at least, so it might be worth grabbing a unit of them and seeing if you like them, then wait to see if the spears and rabble get a sprue (its probably just a matter of time).

scipio.au wrote:Let's not forget though - they're doing amazingly well for a $5k target.

Can I get a f king Amen brother! surplus of $229K that is amazing for concept pictures!

Why did they limit the higher donation slots though? I want to be warmaster.

ÆΞØИ wrote:

scipio.au wrote:Let's not forget though - they're doing amazingly well for a $5k target.

Can I get a f king Amen brother! surplus of $229K that is amazing for concept pictures!

Why did they limit the higher donation slots though? I want to be warmaster.

I think the $5K was just a test, and possibly a guage to see how popular their online presence was.

As for the limited slots, this baffled me too. I understand not having an infinite number of unique warlords, but I'd think 7-10 wouldn't be unreasonable for the highest donor level, with possibly 15-20 for the next-highest. Frankly, opening more of those slots I suspect could easily net them another $50K within 12-24 hours.

ÆΞØИ wrote:

scipio.au wrote:Let's not forget though - they're doing amazingly well for a $5k target.

Can I get a f king Amen brother! surplus of $229K that is amazing for concept pictures!

Why did they limit the higher donation slots though? I want to be warmaster.

Email them, they might add another slot for you!

MasterSlowPoke wrote:The Goblins are really nice and I would go with them, but I don't think I can get over the fact that they missed out on the plastic conversion that the Palace Guard and the Infernal Guard got. Metal arms in 2012 just doesn't make sense. .

This sums up my feelings well. They may not be as terrible as I think they would be - I'm sure they aren't in fact. I just ... don't wanna. There's something just intangibly very unappealing about it. I honestly hope that after the 250k stretch goal we can move back to try for a few more $10k stretches of de-metaling kits. Starting with the goblins, then moving onto more of the abyssal dwarf range. (Honestly, having only one of their kits done is kinda pointless - as having an army that's 4/5ths hybrid metals isn't a whole lot better than one that's purely hybrid-metal). Two elf kits and one Abyssal isn't enough!

ÆΞØИ wrote:

Why did they limit the higher donation slots though? I want to be warmaster.

What - you can shell out 5 grand for one figure in your likeness, but not 8 grand for two? Tightwad

scipio.au wrote:
While this drive is huge here on Dakka - what about the other big forums? There's only about 3 posts on wargamer.au

Just out of interest, does the Mantic stuff on sale in Aus have the big mark-up like GW when compared to other territories?

Pacific wrote:

scipio.au wrote:
While this drive is huge here on Dakka - what about the other big forums? There's only about 3 posts on wargamer.au

Just out of interest, does the Mantic stuff on sale in Aus have the big mark-up like GW when compared to other territories?

In stores...you'd have to ask an Aussie....

Online, Mantic have no restrictions stopping people taking advantage of any currency conversion benefits that might be available through online retailers.

Sorry if this specific question has been asked before, but if my order is over $225 but doesn't contain a 1000pt elite army do i still receive the limited Ed. Vampiress and Orc wizard?

Pacific wrote:Just out of interest, does the Mantic stuff on sale in Aus have the big mark-up like GW when compared to other territories?

As an Aussie who lives a few 100km from the nearest gaming store, i can be of no assistance regarding the subject of store prices. However I did check the prices of Mantics products over on the CombatCompany website, and while there was a small markup in price it was nowhere near as severe as GW's.

Sketches of the Mummy is now up!

Also, on the "amount" front - they are running at the same time as a very popular and highly detailed board game. Kickstarter is dominantly American, Dakka is dominantly American (hence the hype) and it's proven that sci-fi is popular in the states. People are having to divide their attention and interest between Sedition Wars and the McVey name and Kings of War. I think KOW is taking money off Sedition Wars at hte moment because they're offering a better deal. Didn't stop me pledging $100 to sedition wars, but I know I went higher on KOW to get the units of stuff!

I actually cancelled by Sediation Wars pledge as I wanted to give more to KoW. Will get a massive Orc and Goblin army, plus hopefully add to my Abyssal Dwarfs and get a start on a Human army!

Well, there's a even a thread on the work forums about the Mantic Kickstarter - that wasn't posted by me or one of my mates so I'd say that's a pretty big deal.

Although it's really been tempting, I've got to say that I'm one of those, 'waiting for a warpath kickstarter' people.

scipio.au wrote:

Alpharius wrote:Given all the free stuff offered in this Kickstarter, I'm a bit surprised it isn't even higher than it already is.
I wonder why that is the case?
WFB not being all that popular?
The higher buy in required to get the truly massive free stuff deal?
Just the "Buy 1 get 1 free" deals alone should have had people pledging like crazy.
Maybe no actual models and only concept sketches is the problem?

Weird...

I reckon it's a combination of things:

Fantasy is less popular.
Mantic is still very small - lots of people still haven't heard of them.
They do not have a solid reputation for quality sculpts across the range yet. - (don't argue guys - it's true - and I say this as a supporter)
While this drive is huge here on Dakka - what about the other big forums? There's only about 3 posts on wargamer.au
A lot of people still have a "Go GW or Go Home!" mentality.
Lots of people are more focused with their purchases. A big bag of mixed swag doesn't hold much for them - they just want stuff for their X army. (I'm the opposite)

Pretty much spot on, I figure.

Also, is wargamer.au a 'big' forum?

Pacific wrote:

scipio.au wrote:
While this drive is huge here on Dakka - what about the other big forums? There's only about 3 posts on wargamer.au

Just out of interest, does the Mantic stuff on sale in Aus have the big mark-up like GW when compared to other territories?

I honestly have no idea. My closest game shop is a GW and has been for about 4-5 years. I rarely get to my old FLGS and have no idea what they stock or how much they charge these days. I imagine that it's about 25-50% more expensive than buying direct from overseas, as that seems to be the usual for other things (Fantasy Flight games, etc)

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Alpharius wrote:
Also, is wargamer.au a 'big' forum?

It's pretty substantial. Easily the biggest Aussie/NZ forum.
Comparatively:

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So I'm considering a following pledge:

25$ Orc chariots (x2)
25$ Trolls (x6)
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50$

I see that I could get a random bunch of miniatures for 100 dollar pledge, but can't decide on any further options.

I play Orcs&goblins (5000+points) in fantasy battle and would use these miniatures in it.

Should I stay at $50, or are there any good recommendations for further pledgening to go over 100 bucks?

get a couple of the ogre units, you'll have an OK army before you know it.
have you considered either the goblin fleabag riders? those will be cool (and fine counts-as boarboys - probly too bulky for wolf riders).
and there's always the orcs 1player battle set or army or even the goblin army (those gobbos are cool!).

before you know it you're at $225

My local store just started carrying manic stuff - the models look pretty nice. I was looking for the werewolves but they did not have any in.

Kal-El wrote:I was looking for the werewolves but they did not have any in.

That's because they aren't out yet.

Dawnbringer wrote:

Kal-El wrote:I was looking for the werewolves but they did not have any in.

That's because they aren't out yet.

I would not expect to see them for at least 3-5 months at best too

kenshin620 wrote:

Dawnbringer wrote:

Kal-El wrote:I was looking for the werewolves but they did not have any in.

That's because they aren't out yet.

I would not expect to see them for at least 3-5 months at best too

One of the updates says we should expect the newly announced sculpts to hit the market in Q2 2013. I believe our OP has suggested they're hoping to be a few months early but no guarantees.

@thomaspolder: heh
I have enough rank-and-file troops and 30+ goblin cavalry.

Can you double down on pay one, get one free? I could use a literal troll horde.




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warboss wrote:

kenshin620 wrote:

Dawnbringer wrote:

Kal-El wrote:I was looking for the werewolves but they did not have any in.

That's because they aren't out yet.

I would not expect to see them for at least 3-5 months at best too

One of the updates says we should expect the newly announced sculpts to hit the market in Q2 2013. I believe our OP has suggested they're hoping to be a few months early but no guarantees.

I understood it, that the last of the new units would be out then and there's going to be a steady stream of newly announced stuff released between now and then.

250k reached


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$275k goal is up - Abyssal Golems!

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1744629938/kings-of-war/posts/252989

adhuin wrote:@thomaspolder: heh
I have enough rank-and-file troops and 30+ goblin cavalry.

Can you double down on pay one, get one free? I could use a literal troll horde.

Yes you can take as many BOGOF deals for the same unit type as you like. Go wild! (those $225 perks are great!)

Ooo Golems. Need to make as much noise about this as possible for the last day!!

Can we get the thread title changes to less than 24 hours left?

if I'm not mistaken, the rewards taken a few hours ago (finally!) bring the total number of heroes included in the $225 perks up to 8.
those of us with 2 $225 pledges are going to have a lot of heroes lying around in the bitzbox, haha

If I'm just going for the buy one get one free sets, should I choose a pledge level or just 'no thanks I want to help the project'?

timetowaste85 wrote:If I'm just going for the buy one get one free sets, should I choose a pledge level or just 'no thanks I want to help the project'?

If you want rewards from a pledge level you choose a pledge level.

if you do not want rewards from a pledge level you choose the no rewards option.

The buy one get ones aren't a pledge level, so...hit the 'no thanks' then? First time on a kickstarter project. Wanna make sure I get the models I want.