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You guys DO know that the new $22 ten man box is just 2 of the current 5 man Cadian sprues, right?

H.B.M.C. wrote:If it's on top of 10 men then it makes packing the box pretty easy - just halve the current size of the Cadian/Catachan box and just slide in he two HW sprues. Instant 12-man box, and every Guard player has to go out and buy more Lasgunners to make their squads legal again.

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you know that Makes so much sense its scary. it would also mean every squad would pick up a lasgun shot not lose it and 11 wounds would have to be done to reach the heavy weapon.

I just think its really hopeful thinking on our part though.

Vladsimpaler wrote:You guys DO know that the new $22 ten man box is just 2 of the current 5 man Cadian sprues, right?

No.

Do you?

Care to show us where this has been stated/shown/previewed/confirmed?

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Vladsimpaler wrote:You guys DO know that the new $22 ten man box is just 2 of the current 5 man Cadian sprues, right?

I've heard it's 10+HW in every rumor. If you have some late-breaking updates, please share.

My word, are we really on 20 pages?! Methinks GW are onto a winner with this Codex. Why all the sudden love for Imperial Guard? Is is it the 20+ tanks, the toughness 5 Ogryns, the sleek new Valkyrie, or do we just all identify best with the common human grunt?

Flashman wrote:My word, are we really on 20 pages?! Methinks GW are onto a winner with this Codex. Why all the sudden love for Imperial Guard? Is is it the 20+ tanks, the toughness 5 Ogryns, the sleek new Valkyrie, or do we just all identify best with the common human grunt?

Common Grunt! Although there's also the part of me that likes sheer numbers, but dislikes green football hooligans .

'Cause it's been a while since there's been a new Guard Codex, and from the looks of things we're not getting a dud like the 'Chaos' Codex, but something more akin to the new Marine or Ork 'Dex, something that is both worth playing and exciting as well.

Of course, it might all fall flat on its face if they don't deal with the KP issue (auto-lose 1/3rd of all missions ain't fun), but at the end of the day we're getting a bitz-laden Command Squad and a plastic Valk. Difficult to top that (plastic Thunderhawk would do it though!). I'm going to buy a box'o'twenty Guardsmen this week just so I have spare bodies to use all the stuff in the Command Squad box.

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H.B.M.C. wrote:

Alpharius wrote:I'm hoping that the rumored Inquisitor HQ choice is still in there somewhere.

He'd be in the summary if he was.

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Good point.

I am now sad.

Looks like H.B.M.C.s IG purchases are going to keep GW afloat for a while, so they can stop worrying about the credit crunch.

I think the KP issue might be resolved by hiding all infantry behind a row of tanks and not venturing out until everything has been flattened by ordnance barrages and hellstrike missiles.

Yeah why can't we all get some bailout money for new IG purchases.

People in Australia are. AUD$900 from the Government to just about everyone. It's absurd, but it's buying me two Shadowswords, a few Command Squad boxes, all the new metals and my wing of Valks.

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AAAHHHH I hate you guys thats just awesome. I wish Obama would do that for me. I would love to buy me a bunch of Shadowswords and all the other new IG stuff.

Ghost in the Darkness wrote:AAAHHHH I hate you guys thats just awesome. I wish Obama would do that for me. I would love to buy me a bunch of Shadowswords and all the other new IG stuff.

I'd love it if Brown tossed a few hundred quids my way, but that's not going to happen, so I'll have to cut down on my monthly beer and pizza bills to get my hands on the new kit I'm gonna need.

H.B.M.C. wrote:People in Australia are. AUD$900 from the Government to just about everyone. It's absurd, but it's buying me two Shadowswords, a few Command Squad boxes, all the new metals and my wing of Valks.

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These tanks need a sticker: "brought to you by......"

Flashman wrote:My word, are we really on 20 pages?! Methinks GW are onto a winner with this Codex. Why all the sudden love for Imperial Guard? Is is it the 20+ tanks, the toughness 5 Ogryns, the sleek new Valkyrie, or do we just all identify best with the common human grunt?

Identifying with the common grunt. The men and women of the Guard are the unsung heroes. It is really easy to get in the character of Joe Guardman. The Astartes are brainwashed genemodified killing machines, Orks are psychotic bipedal fungi and the Tyranids are just totally alien.

Hrm. It appears the Cadian Battleforce has been removed from both the UK and US online stores. The Catachan Battleforce was removed from the UK online store.

Just thought I'd mention it for those looking to stock up before hand. Like me. Time to go loot some FLGS!

Chimera power rankings, again points will change everything, but these are in the order most powerful to least. In my mind at least I would pay more points for a Manticore than a Griffon

Manticore
Medusa
Colossus
Griffon
Bassilisk (mainly due to large minimum range)
Hydra

AlexCage wrote:Hrm. It appears the Cadian Battleforce has been removed from both the UK and US online stores. The Catachan Battleforce was removed from the UK online store.

Just thought I'd mention it for those looking to stock up before hand. Like me. Time to go loot some FLGS!

still there on the german site.

A-P wrote:The men and women of the Guard are the...

Wo...men? In the Guard? I've got a Comissar who's a girl... but yeah, don't know where you're finding these mythical 'Wo-mens'.

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foil7102 wrote:

What sort of weapon is the Eradicator Nova? Is it an energy weapon of some kind? A projectile? Could it have some kind of special rule we're not aware of?

At this point, I'm happy with the LRBTs and Demolishers I currently have, but I'd be interested in adding a Executioner or two to the mix if the turret looks good.

As for the Chimera chassis weapons, I really like the idea of missile weapons. I think those and the Melta Cannon would look ace along side my Witch-Hunters, my Sisters' Melta-Weaponry and their Exorcist missile launchers. I'll probably sign up for a few Deathstrikes and Manticores.

How would you rank the Chimera chassis weapons?

Wouldn't you rather use a Griffon for that? The Griffon's probably cheaper as well.

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I suppose. Depends what the Nova thingy is mounted on.

Dependant upon the enemy better armour is a good trade for losing barrage. Arguably more accurate as well.

So yeah, depends entirely upon what it's mounted on!

And did I read that right? Ogryns now have 4 Attacks each? - NEver mind. It's the Bone 'Ead that gets that. Sorry.

Well it's mounted on a Russ. I just think there are better uses for a Russ hull than an S6 AP4 shot - even with the ignoring cover. The Griffon, which should be much cheaper, gets the same job done for less cost, and its armour is not important because it is indirect.

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You *can* still get a save from the Griffon though, depending on how the terrain is modelled.

I can see the Nova being a favourite of mine for things like Cityfight. But otherwise yeah, points dependant, the Griffon can do the same job.

Flat out ignoring cover would help against area cover and self-generated cover. Turbo-boosting scarabs spring to mind as an example. Or maybe some guys really want to use tanks to drive troops out of cover but really hate the chimera chassis.

Rumours indicate that the Griffon will ignore cover saves. And if not, and it's the Colossus that ignores cover, then we'll take the Colossus (although that's AP3, so it's more likely that the Griffon will ignore cover).

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Lets just say I'm looking forward to getting my mitts on the book.

And, fingers crossed, I'll be a fulltimer by then so I'll get to play with the new stuff without having to buy it (well, the shops ones. I don't get free ones)

Maybe the Colossus siege gun will steal the Griffon's siege shell special rule, then. That would almost make sense.

Somehow I feel that I should have noticed sooner that the siege shell was on the same page as a gun that previously had a special rule allowing it to use siege shells and two other gun that have the word "siege" in their names.

She sells siege shells by the sea shore.

Looking at the PDF again, I'm wondering if the 'Nova' thingy is an alternate shell type?