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I dont think you can have male callidus. Wait...I think im thinking of deathcult...wait...no they can be males too..OH DARN IT!

In any case I do wish for a WRRYYYYY stanced Evesor, but I dont really mind the pointing culexus (as if anyone used him anyway)

HOPEFULLY the culexus eyeball thingy still gets an extra attack for every psyker within 12. 10 str 5 ap 2 bs 5 shots here I come! Just surround him with grey knights and he can shoot an obliterator squad off the table in the blink of an eye!

I say go with the metal assassins. I love the vidi assassin aiming with his rifle.

Glad to see he hopefuly gets the stats the rumors are hinting at.

Whats the possibilities of adding, say, 1 or 2 new assassins? I love assassins personally.

Mr Hyena wrote:Whats the possibilities of adding, say, 1 or 2 new assassins? I love assassins personally.

Since the assassins of the imperium are pretty much wasit deep in fluff... Chances are low.

he the chances where also low on a new de book and it came didn't it?

I could see a Venenum and the sabotage-based Assassins getting some rules; honestly the only things the other assassins need are maybe letting the Vindicare switch freely between his types of ammunition a la Sternguard Vets and give the Culuxes a power weapon. The Callidus is pretty nice as-is, and the Eversor is pretty much perfect.

EDIT: Power, not force.

Well thats fair enough. Maybe a sliiiiight cost decrease if anything. Fielding Assassins is fun.

Ehsteve wrote:
How would they make a plastic assassin kit anyway? Each is so varied it doesn't lend itself to the idea. A plastic kit each seems...wasteful...

They could easily make a universal plastic assassin kit similar to the DE Archon or CSM Lord, the bodies are all pretty similar, that being some form of jump suit with lots of cargo pockets and some random wires/tubes.
All they would have to do is maybe make 2-3 diff leg poses, 1 torso (maybe 2, 1 Female and 1 Male), and them unique heads for each type. Then arms equipped with the signature weapons and a couple little backpacks to go with the heads and weapons. People would scoop something like that up if just to use the bits on conversions and characters.

Muggzy wrote:

Ehsteve wrote:
How would they make a plastic assassin kit anyway? Each is so varied it doesn't lend itself to the idea. A plastic kit each seems...wasteful...

They could easily make a universal plastic assassin kit similar to the DE Archon or CSM Lord, the bodies are all pretty similar, that being some form of jump suit with lots of cargo pockets and some random wires/tubes.
All they would have to do is maybe make 2-3 diff leg poses, 1 torso (maybe 2, 1 Female and 1 Male), and them unique heads for each type. Then arms equipped with the signature weapons and a couple little backpacks to go with the heads and weapons. People would scoop something like that up if just to use the bits on conversions and characters.

The DE Archon is a metal kit.

I could see the assassin becoming a plastic kit if they make a plastic Inquisitor and henchmen boxed set. Put the bits for an Assassin on the Inquisitor sprues, voila.

bhsman wrote:I could see a Venenum and the sabotage-based Assassins getting some rules; honestly the only things the other assassins need are maybe letting the Vindicare switch freely between his types of ammunition a la Sternguard Vets and give the Culuxes a force weapon. The Callidus is pretty nice as-is, and the Eversor is pretty much perfect.

Poor, poor Elite slot. So overcrowded

I hope they don't just trash the metal INQ models when they come out with the new plastics. They're still some of the best ones in the game.

Kanluwen wrote:I could see the assassin becoming a plastic kit if they make a plastic Inquisitor and henchmen boxed set. Put the bits for an Assassin on the Inquisitor sprues, voila.

Make two, an all-male Daemon Hunters themed one and an all-female Witch Hunters themed one, and I'd buy it.

Vhalyar wrote:

bhsman wrote:I could see a Venenum and the sabotage-based Assassins getting some rules; honestly the only things the other assassins need are maybe letting the Vindicare switch freely between his types of ammunition a la Sternguard Vets and give the Culuxes a force weapon. The Callidus is pretty nice as-is, and the Eversor is pretty much perfect.

Poor, poor Elite slot. So overcrowded

Not as crowded as the DH's fast attack slot, to be sure.

Vhalyar wrote:Poor, poor Elite slot. So overcrowded

Assuming they don't let you field multiples a la Nemesis, which would be nice.

AlexHolker wrote:Make two, an all-male Daemon Hunters themed one and an all-female Witch Hunters themed one, and I'd buy it.

Is it bad that I knew who made this post before even looking at the user name?

I just wish GW would show us some models... SHOW ME THE MONEY!

I hope assassins do get a stat boost to be sure that that Vindicare bullet hits, or that WRRYYYYY rips it's target in half. Maybe all assassins will get to allocate wounds how the controlling player wishes, not just the Vindicare?

Ah well, being Daemon/Daemon-Hunter is still fun!

*Hides from impending heresy*

bhsman wrote:Is it bad that I knew who made this post before even looking at the user name?

*shrug* I'll stop suggesting it when somebody starts doing it. It's not like someone who wants an all-male army isn't already catered for.

It's Rumored that the vidicare assassin has a BS of 8 (hits on 2 with a re-roll on a 4).

Im hoping the vindicare is now only 50-75 points, especially if it comes in a 1-3 elite slot.

Imagine the day someone fielded 9 of them....

It is reasonable to hope for that points range is it not? I mean, sanguinary priests were 65.

Jaon wrote:Im hoping the vindicare is now only 50-75 points, especially if it comes in a 1-3 elite slot.
Imagine the day someone fielded 9 of them....
It is reasonable to hope for that points range is it not?

if you could take 9, they would become primary GK anti tank, and sergants with power fists and the like could be exterminated en-masse. It would greatly improve the surviability to have the ability to easily eliminate every power fist and plasma gun on the table in a hurry, I dont see it happening
0-3 with only one choice allowed is more likely

aaaaaah...Gotcha...

bhsman wrote:http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5170/5373620650_e87f0e05c5_o.jpg

This will go fantastically well with a couple of FW door sets

Stormraven painted in Grey Knight colors, on the back of the box:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5083/5373961912_57550c14fc_o.jpg

cutting all the first post down this is what I think Gw can do and what may be true and if true gonna be fun for me. if nto I just make it true e.g. plays with people who changes rules for fun rather than for who wins. Codex Mods and stuff.

Overview:
LOTS of new independent characters, and tons of new Grey Knight fluff.
GK codex WILL NOT have inducted units. Allies are effectively gone!
GK and GKT have plastic kits and will be troop choices.
GKs will not have access to Special Weapons (Plasma/Melta)
All GKs Nemesis Force Weapons are Force Weapons and no longer Str 6.
All basic Grey Knight Troops come with a storm bolter and nemesis Force Weapon

The GK codex has been finalized and is currently at the printers.

No Ecclesiarchy units
Grenades - ALL Grey Knights (Not Termys)

Force Organization Chart:
HQs changing the FoC
GKs do not get Bikes, Jump Packs.

Psy Powers:
Lots of all new psychic powers all around.

Characters/Special Characters
The Grand Master gives out special abilities to GK units (Not USRs)
One GKs Special character make Purgation Squads Troops.
One GK Special Character make Gk Terms Troop.

Inquisitors
Reflect the Inquisition (e.g. new focus)

Assassins
Vindicare has unlimited ammo for all special shots.

Grey Knights
Cost Less points to sell more models.

Grey Knight Terminators
Mix and match Nemesis Force Weapons and TH/SS and get psy weapons as well.
Grey Knights 2 wound terminator
FNP access.
Psycannon profile Changed

Dreads
They will not get bogged down e.g. like what they did with the BA dreads.

Vehicles
Stormraven Fast Attack
GKs vehicles Land Raiders, Razorbacks, Rhinos, Stormraven.
Sacred Hull upgrade
Has Gray Knight weapon upgrades.

I just can not wait for GW to release this new codex along with the models. For a few months I have been painstakingly trying to piece a full GK army and with little luck.

I got lucky when my local hobby town USA was selling GW blisters for 50% off and picked up 4 termies and 1 GK in power armor. I am still having issues finding box sets of the power armor GK.

And if anyone knows of a GK dread conversion guild send it my way. I would love to see it.

The Stormraven sure does look nice in GK colors!

Perhaps some of the problem is the BA Red paint job?

Vehicles always look tacky in BA red, in my opinion. They need something to break up the surface a bit better.

Guys just had a realization....

As people have said, Assassins are waist deep in fluff, and cannot be changed very much.

How can assassins be 0-3 in a slot...when never more than one assassin is ever on the field at any one battle?

Jaon wrote:How can assassins be 0-3 in a slot...when never more than one assassin is ever on the field at any one battle?

Go read Nemesis.

Vhalyar wrote:

Jaon wrote:How can assassins be 0-3 in a slot...when never more than one assassin is ever on the field at any one battle?

Go read Nemesis.

Nemesis Shmemesis. Its one book, real fluff is that there is only ever one.