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the holes, might just be bullet holes in his metall cape, since the part in which they all appear is the side which we would normally see from a frontal view, the side on which a Necron Overlord would take the most shots and as his cape will not be living metall, so maybe it just shows some battle damage?

My stormlords staff was crooked as well, but I just attributed it to having a flexible metal center haft (it kinda looks it anyway with how the staff is modeled) so it puts my mind at ease. *Shrug*

As for the "hole" discussion...none of the holes are SUPPOSED to be there in the middle/bottom of the capes. It's an unfortunate side-effect of creating molds the same way they always have but now using an entirely new material that "should" warrant an entirely new molding technique as well but GW opted not to spend money on that so they create their finecast minis the same way they created their metal ones and it's just not the correct way to do it.

Revarien wrote:Alright... for those of you that think the Necron fluff changed, I encourage you to get the book 'Xenology'.... or somehow read/borrow the book as it is out of print... as Necron fluff hasn't changed: just been expanded upon...

I did, and it has (I own Xenology) You might also read, I believe it was Codex: Assassins, where a culexis tries to use a c'tan phase sword on the deceiver, who was disguising himself as imperial servants at the time, though I may be mistaken on which book it was.

BTW: Xenology hasn't been canon for years. Suddenly bringing it back and saying well, it's canon again' would be right up there with suddenly the Emperopr is alive and running around runnning the Imperium again and all that heavy GrimDark was just a bad dream that Girlyman had one night...

We'll toss in Jervis declaring to the HA that BFG can't get a rules update because it CONFLICTS with (Matt Ward's) new fluff. (Seriously...)

So, yeah, BFG fans, we've been screwed out of a new rulebook because Matt Ward sucks as a writer.

...Am I the only one that has a Codex listing that Triarch Praetorians have 1 attack?

CleverAntics wrote:...Am I the only one that has a Codex listing that Triarch Praetorians have 1 attack?

I wish it was just you. =(

Strangely enough the website says they have 2. I'm not sure which to believe.

CleverAntics wrote:Strangely enough the website says they have 2. I'm not sure which to believe.

There is a mistake somewhere, but either way it's really not going to change the units over all effectiveness.

I'll probably just use the Codex's stats. I suppose it'd make sense, considering Praetorians can weaken the foe with their shots first, then charge. I dunno, guess I'll just ask my opponent.

CleverAntics wrote:Strangely enough the website says they have 2. I'm not sure which to believe.

You're not sure whether you should believe the printed codex which has the statline listed the same way in 3 separate places (unit page, army list entry & summary) or the website, which is NOT directly maintained by the codex authors (in that, the information would have to be passed to them and they would post it on the site leaving room for errors to slip in)?

I mean, the website also says lesser Lords can take Tachyon Arrows (which they can't).

Ultimately at the end of the day, if a codex has a stat printed the same way in multiple places in the book there's a pretty good chance its correct.

And you do know that if you take the weapon option for the Praetorians they'll get the +1A bonus for having two close combat weapons, right?

Pistols count as CC weapons as well right?

So Particle Caster (Pistol) + Void Blade (CC weapon) = bonus attack so 2 attacks.

BaronIveagh wrote:BTW: Xenology hasn't been canon for years.

Everything is canon.

BaronIveagh wrote:We'll toss in Jervis declaring to the HA that BFG can't get a rules update because it CONFLICTS with (Matt Ward's) new fluff. (Seriously...)

Where did he say that?

yakface wrote:And you do know that if you take the weapon option for the Praetorians they'll get the +1A bonus for having two close combat weapons, right?

Yeah, but if I want Rending attacks I'll just take Wraiths with an extra wound, extra attack, extra strength, Invulnerable Save, and Whip Coils (or the same pistol), while only losing RP and 1T. I doubt the Entropic Strikes on them will make any difference.

CleverAntics wrote:...Am I the only one that has a Codex listing that Triarch Praetorians have 1 attack?

They do. I played a game on Monday using 5 praetorians with particle caster and voidblades. (So they get +1 attack, and a strength 6 pistol). They killed: Unit of 5 fire dragons, with an exarch with firepike and tank hunters. 10 dire avengers, with an exarch with dual catapults and bladestorm, and killed prince yriel with pistol. (Instant death FTW)

Just finished putting together my my Command/Tesla barge. Really, REALLY pleased that GW left the option to swap between both sets available to me. Aside that, kinda miffed that we didn't get the swivel ball stands DE got for our vehicles.

Kurgash wrote:Just finished putting together my my Command/Tesla barge. Really, REALLY pleased that GW left the option to swap between both sets available to me. Aside that, kinda miffed that we didn't get the swivel ball stands DE got for our vehicles.

They don't work that well anyway. Get some magnets and make your own.

@ Kurgash

Since you finished your Barges I assume you also made the Overlord, so my question is this: If you put the base on the Overlord can he still stand/fit in his Barge?

asimo77 wrote:@ Kurgash

Since you finished your Barges I assume you also made the Overlord, so my question is this: If you put the base on the Overlord can he still stand/fit in his Barge?

I can answer that. The CCB Overlord will fit onto the barge well enough while on his base. It's not a perfect fit and he won't be perfectly locked in place, but it's a good enough solution. He won't fall out too easy while you're moving it around, but might shift a bit. I wish I had put some metal underneath the point where he stands so I could have magnetized his base...but it works well enough without magnets.

Side note: the Finecast Overlord will not fit at all. At least, not without his Warscythe arm being replaced.

Yeah I'm using the res orb metal Lord as a reference and he does fit in the barge, just might have to be careful how he slides around. How Imotekh and the others fit? I'll have to find out the hard way...

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Everything is canon.

LOL You know, so I've been told, but if that's true, then the Emperor is still alive and running around. But ask anyone if that's really canon anymore.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Where did he say that?

At Games Day when Ray approached him about when the updated BFG rules that we handed in back in... January would come out, even as a pdf on the site.

Ray's been trying to figure out how we can incorporate this new abomination into BFG and try to get it out the door again, but so far we just have a lot of headaches trying to re-balance the game.

So I was building the praetorians last night and I was bummed that there were so many pieces left over that I couldn't use because you only got 5 legs and 5 front chest pieces...then I noticed that the legs and chest pieces appear to be the same size as the standard warriors. Sure the detailing is different and the chest piece is missing a little added collar protection but I "think" I can make it work so that I can build the 5 lychguard out of that box at well. I'm going to try tonight so if no one else has tried it yet, I'll try to remember to let you know how it goes.

Kevin949 wrote:So I was building the praetorians last night and I was bummed that there were so many pieces left over that I couldn't use because you only got 5 legs and 5 front chest pieces...then I noticed that the legs and chest pieces appear to be the same size as the standard warriors. Sure the detailing is different and the chest piece is missing a little added collar protection but I "think" I can make it work so that I can build the 5 lychguard out of that box at well. I'm going to try tonight so if no one else has tried it yet, I'll try to remember to let you know how it goes.

Via Magnets, I'm making Lych Praetorians

@ Kurgash and whigwam

Thanks for the info, I can now build my Overlord without having to worry about magnets!

King Pariah wrote:

Kevin949 wrote:So I was building the praetorians last night and I was bummed that there were so many pieces left over that I couldn't use because you only got 5 legs and 5 front chest pieces...then I noticed that the legs and chest pieces appear to be the same size as the standard warriors. Sure the detailing is different and the chest piece is missing a little added collar protection but I "think" I can make it work so that I can build the 5 lychguard out of that box at well. I'm going to try tonight so if no one else has tried it yet, I'll try to remember to let you know how it goes.

Via Magnets, I'm making Lych Praetorians

I'm not spending more money than I have to, I'm not that handy with modeling tools (hell, I can barely put these things together properly as it is), I also like having as little work as possible when putting an army together (when going out to play a game). Plus, the lychguard don't have the same backs as the praetorians and thus would not be proper models and I don't like to proxy.

CleverAntics wrote:Strangely enough the website says they have 2. I'm not sure which to believe.

If this was indeed the case, the website has since been corrected as it lists Praetorians with 1A.

So I've found out how i'm gonna convert some of the stuff I'll be using:

Crypteks - I need 5... hell if I'm gonna pay $80 for 5 failcast models! So i'll be using Deathmark heads (and probably bodies), and take staves from the Lych box.
Destroyer Lord - I already bought 2 barge boxes (great bargain as they come with a lord!), so I'll be using a destroyer kit along with lord bitz from the barge to make this dude
Wraiths - Waiting for a kit...
Scarabs - Each warrior box gives you enough scarabs (using 3 per base) to make 4 bases... so, 4 boxes of warriors should do. Just need to get ahold of a few 40MM bases!
Spyders - I've been mulling this one over; you could possibly convert some from Destroyer kits and using some enginuity. My issue, however, is I'd rather wait for a spyder kit.... I want my sacarabs, wraiths, and spyders to look legit haha

So for now I'll be proxying wraiths/spyders, but I think the rest will turn out neat!

Zid wrote:So I've found out how i'm gonna convert some of the stuff I'll be using:

Crypteks - I need 5... hell if I'm gonna pay $80 for 5 failcast models! So i'll be using Deathmark heads (and probably bodies), and take staves from the Lych box.
Destroyer Lord - I already bought 2 barge boxes (great bargain as they come with a lord!), so I'll be using a destroyer kit along with lord bitz from the barge to make this dude
Wraiths - Waiting for a kit...
Scarabs - Each warrior box gives you enough scarabs (using 3 per base) to make 4 bases... so, 4 boxes of warriors should do. Just need to get ahold of a few 40MM bases!
Spyders - I've been mulling this one over; you could possibly convert some from Destroyer kits and using some enginuity. My issue, however, is I'd rather wait for a spyder kit.... I want my sacarabs, wraiths, and spyders to look legit haha

So for now I'll be proxying wraiths/spyders, but I think the rest will turn out neat!

What aer you using for the cryptek bodies?

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Zid wrote:So I've found out how i'm gonna convert some of the stuff I'll be using:

Crypteks - I need 5... hell if I'm gonna pay $80 for 5 failcast models! So i'll be using Deathmark heads (and probably bodies), and take staves from the Lych box.
Destroyer Lord - I already bought 2 barge boxes (great bargain as they come with a lord!), so I'll be using a destroyer kit along with lord bitz from the barge to make this dude
Wraiths - Waiting for a kit...
Scarabs - Each warrior box gives you enough scarabs (using 3 per base) to make 4 bases... so, 4 boxes of warriors should do. Just need to get ahold of a few 40MM bases!
Spyders - I've been mulling this one over; you could possibly convert some from Destroyer kits and using some enginuity. My issue, however, is I'd rather wait for a spyder kit.... I want my sacarabs, wraiths, and spyders to look legit haha

So for now I'll be proxying wraiths/spyders, but I think the rest will turn out neat!

What aer you using for the cryptek bodies?

i used a combo of Warrior chests, Deathmark backs, deathmark heads, used different spare bits to make the staffs/staves (including the deathmark guns), warrior legs, and funny enough, CSM arms. A little green stuff for cloaks/capes, a earphone for the Harp of Dissonance, etc. so on so forth. Gotta say they look okay.

Speaking of conversions, has anyone yet made an Illuminor Szeras out of a Cryptek and a Steamborg Executioner from Malifaux?

King Pariah wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Zid wrote:So I've found out how i'm gonna convert some of the stuff I'll be using:

Crypteks - I need 5... hell if I'm gonna pay $80 for 5 failcast models! So i'll be using Deathmark heads (and probably bodies), and take staves from the Lych box.
Destroyer Lord - I already bought 2 barge boxes (great bargain as they come with a lord!), so I'll be using a destroyer kit along with lord bitz from the barge to make this dude
Wraiths - Waiting for a kit...
Scarabs - Each warrior box gives you enough scarabs (using 3 per base) to make 4 bases... so, 4 boxes of warriors should do. Just need to get ahold of a few 40MM bases!
Spyders - I've been mulling this one over; you could possibly convert some from Destroyer kits and using some enginuity. My issue, however, is I'd rather wait for a spyder kit.... I want my sacarabs, wraiths, and spyders to look legit haha

So for now I'll be proxying wraiths/spyders, but I think the rest will turn out neat!

What aer you using for the cryptek bodies?

i used a combo of Warrior chests, Deathmark backs, deathmark heads, used different spare bits to make the staffs/staves (including the deathmark guns), warrior legs, and funny enough, CSM arms. A little green stuff for cloaks/capes, a earphone for the Harp of Dissonance, etc. so on so forth. Gotta say they look okay.

That sounds neat!

I was just gonna use the normal Deathmark bodies as they're sufficiently scrawny and look a lot like the Cryptek bodies. I was gonna cut the ends off the lych staves and take the Deathmark gun tips to make them look kind of like a lightning rod. Of course, I'll probably dig out some tomb king bitz or something to make them look more sergeant-y, but should turn out ok

Am I the only one that noticed that the GW article today had something that looks an awful lot like the nightsycthes?