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The misconception that Tyranids only consume the plants and animals on a world. Nuh uh, they strip it down to the bedrock and take a truckload of minerals with them too.
Xyptc wrote: The misconception that Tyranids only consume the plants and animals on a world. Nuh uh, they strip it down to the bedrock and take a truckload of minerals with them too.
They even take the atmosphere
Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
kronk wrote: Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
sebster wrote: Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens
BaronIveagh wrote: Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace.
The Imperial Guard doesnt just execute people for every little transgression. They have more or less (in the literal sense) extreme punitive measures. Though this does some to differ from commander to commander.
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30k Ultramarines: 2000 pts
Bolt Action Germans: ~1200 pts
AOS Stormcast: Just starting.
The Empire : ~60-70 models.
1500 pts
: My Salamanders painting blog 16 Infantry and 2 Vehicles done so far!
Oooh... I could rattle off a whole list of them about the Sisters! Let's see...
- A common one I see is the assumption that Sisters operate a bit like Marine Chapters, recruiting from specific worlds or adopting notably different cultures of their own. Really, they just get all of their recruits from Scholas and are much more uniform in their culture.
- Another fairly common one is that Ward is constantly writing fluff where the Sisters get slaughtered. Yes he did write the Bloodtide, in which they ddin't really fare well, but apart from that nothing. He even wrote some of the fluff in the WD codex in which the Sisters were really shown in a good light. This misconception can get to comical levels sometimes, with a 1d4chan article saying something like Ward slaughters the SoB in 70% of all fluff her writes, and then going on to only cite the Bloodtide as an example.
- This is probably more of a matter of where you get your fluff from than a misconception, but the Witch Hunters codex notes Sororitas Power Armour is as protective as Marine Armour. Though granted FFG has it being less effective, I think that quite a few people are unaware of what the WH codex says.
- The Sisters being magical is also one. Same deal as the one above in that it really depends on where you look, but the codexes themselves do more or less say that the Sisters aren't magical.
- The nature of Living Saints is also a very common misconception The title doesn't just refer to a magical angel woman like Celestine, the title really just refers to people who were declared saints whilst alive. Dominica and at least one of her lieutenants were delcared Living Saints whilst they were alive. Granted, third-party creators like Relic, FFG and I think BL do use the title to refer to Sisters who have become like Celestine, but the actual meaning of the title remains.
And, for a bonus non-SoB one, its a fairly common one that no Space Marines worship Big E as a god. Some are mentioned as doing so, depending on where you look, and the BTs are stated outright as doing so in the new Marine codex. Though I will clarify that this one is somewhat understandable, since IIRC not worshiping the Emperor as a god is stated to be the norm for Marines.
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Order of the Righteous Armour - 542 points so far.
And, for a bonus non-SoB one, its a fairly common one that no Space Marines worship Big E as a god. Some are mentioned as doing so, depending on where you look, and the BTs are stated outright as doing so in the new Marine codex.
Yeah, that's a weird one. When I stopped playing during third I was absolutely under the impression that all Space Marines considered the Big E a god. I mean, maybe the 2nd Ed codices did say otherwise, but I hadn't noticed. Then I came back in for 6th and read the first Horus Heresy book from a friend and found that apparently the Emperor is all athiest or something now...
Psienesis wrote: GW/BL has re-tooled the Great Crusade as a sort of Enlightenment vs Dark Ages thing.
Don't they go on to discuss that the Emperor sort of set this up because he was under the impression that hiding the existence of Chaos from humanity would help them to avoid being enslaved by it?
And the HH is sort of the universe going "nuh uh"...
The Imperial Guard doesnt just execute people for every little transgression. They have more or less (in the literal sense) extreme punitive measures. Though this does some to differ from commander to commander.
If you take away the downward bar in the center than it is.
Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
kronk wrote: Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
sebster wrote: Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens
BaronIveagh wrote: Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace.
Psienesis wrote: GW/BL has re-tooled the Great Crusade as a sort of Enlightenment vs Dark Ages thing.
Don't they go on to discuss that the Emperor sort of set this up because he was under the impression that hiding the existence of Chaos from humanity would help them to avoid being enslaved by it?
And the HH is sort of the universe going "nuh uh"...
Sort of.
The Emperor as uber-atheist is relatively new.
It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised.
SkavenLord wrote: C.S. Goto has a lot of these like Slaaneshi Eldar and backflipping terminators.
Yes those are two obscure examples.
C.S. Goto hate pisses me off. To pick a prime example.
The multilaser-toting devestators aren't so despicable.
This was the Mantis Warriors Chapter after all, which had been recently almost destroyed and had been having to scavenge their equipment.
Also, where anywhere does it say that Devestators aren't allowed to wield multilasers if they want to? A Space Marine gets what he wants, not what he is provided with (obviously at a high enough rank or significance)
- Dark Eldar can become monstrous psychic warriors, like normal eldar, but they'd become exiled from commoragh most likely. So they aren't really dark eldar anymore.
- Necron Pariahs still exist - mat ward didn't have enough resources at his disposal to include them in the new codex.
XD
Destroy to create. Wreak havoc upon the infrastructure and bring life anew. Break through all barriers to realize there were no barriers. Realize there were only treacherous games. Learn the entirety of the game. Find the game makers; find the dick traitors/dictators.
Explode unto thy betrayers - ruin all their materials, dethrone and desecrate their persona, crush and manipulate their force, squeeze and torture their ideals to redirect their goals so as to dominate their souls, extract and perfect their fear so as to mitigate their strength and amplify their weakness.
Cut out the sickness, then imprison the wardens. Sing the song blood red and true. Create their destruction.
All for the hunt to dominate.
Annoying fluff misconception: People thinking Chaos lost the 13th Black Crusade. We won it fair and square and handed the Imperials' their @$$es and how people could be so childish as to make up a different ending, put it on 40K wiki and get the article locked and then cite it as fact astonishes me.
DoMiNaNt_HuNtEr wrote: - Dark Eldar can become monstrous psychic warriors, like normal eldar, but they'd become exiled from commoragh most likely. So they aren't really dark eldar anymore.
- Necron Pariahs still exist - mat ward didn't have enough resources at his disposal to include them in the new codex.
XD
They can become monstrous psychic warriors, it's just that they'd be drunk by She Who Thirsts because using psychic powers marks you out
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Veteran of The Long War wrote: Annoying fluff misconception: People thinking Chaos lost the 13th Black Crusade. We won it fair and square and handed the Imperials' their @$$es and how people could be so childish as to make up a different ending, put it on 40K wiki and get the article locked and then cite it as fact astonishes me.
They should've won it's just that people at GW are allergic to plot development.
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Xyptc wrote: The misconception that Tyranids only consume the plants and animals on a world. Nuh uh, they strip it down to the bedrock and take a truckload of minerals with them too.
This is wrong, unless things have changed since the last time I read up on the Tyranids. Tyranids consume until all organic matter is gone, leaving the rest. I remember this because I've always thought it funny that Tyranids and (old, I guess) Necrons could theoretically be on the same planet and ignore each other, since they're after different parts of the planet.
I guess I like the idea of playing games much more than playing them...
Veteran of The Long War wrote: Annoying fluff misconception: People thinking Chaos lost the 13th Black Crusade. We won it fair and square and handed the Imperials' their @$$es and how people could be so childish as to make up a different ending, put it on 40K wiki and get the article locked and then cite it as fact astonishes me.
If by won you actually men barely established a foothold at the cost of your entire navy, then yeah, chaos won that.
Horst wrote:This is how trolling happens. A few cheeky posts are made. Then they get more insulting. Eventually, we revert to our primal animal state, hurling feces at each other while shreeking with glee.
- Orks definitely have some influence on the things around them just by believing certain things. As far as I've seen it's just a theory, not a confirmed thing.
- Ethereal mind control is confirmed. I know there is one quote in the new Tau codex in regards to Aun'va which implies it, but it is not outright stated and there are other explanations for that quote. I may be wrong on this though as i don't actually have the latest codex.
Co'tor Shas wrote: I thought it would be interesting we we all shared common fluff misconceptions that we see.
I'l start
This is not the symbol of the tau empire
That is the symbol of the fire caste.. It irritates me to no end when people get that wrong.
It is also the Symbol for the T'au sept, so it is the symbol for the Tau empire as well.
- Orks definitely have some influence on the things around them just by believing certain things. As far as I've seen it's just a theory, not a confirmed thing. - Ethereal mind control is confirmed. I know there is one quote in the new Tau codex in regards to Aun'va which implies it, but it is not outright stated and there are other explanations for that quote. I may be wrong on this though as i don't actually have the latest codex.
Co'tor Shas wrote: I thought it would be interesting we we all shared common fluff misconceptions that we see.
I'l start
This is not the symbol of the tau empire
That is the symbol of the fire caste.. It irritates me to no end when people get that wrong.
It is also the Symbol for the T'au sept, so it is the symbol for the Tau empire as well.
In terms of the Orks stuff it states in the 5E Codex that some Ork weapons don't fire when used by races other than Orks, confirming that they do believe that they fire because Orks think they should. And, just because it's the symbol for the main sept doesn't make it the symbol for the Empire.
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- Orks definitely have some influence on the things around them just by believing certain things. As far as I've seen it's just a theory, not a confirmed thing.
- Ethereal mind control is confirmed. I know there is one quote in the new Tau codex in regards to Aun'va which implies it, but it is not outright stated and there are other explanations for that quote. I may be wrong on this though as i don't actually have the latest codex.
Co'tor Shas wrote: I thought it would be interesting we we all shared common fluff misconceptions that we see.
I'l start
This is not the symbol of the tau empire
That is the symbol of the fire caste.. It irritates me to no end when people get that wrong.
It is also the Symbol for the T'au sept, so it is the symbol for the Tau empire as well.
In terms of the Orks stuff it states in the 5E Codex that some Ork weapons don't fire when used by races other than Orks, confirming that they do believe that they fire because Orks think they should.
And, just because it's the symbol for the main sept doesn't make it the symbol for the Empire.
What does the quote actually say? Is it from an in-universe source? There are plenty of better explanations for why they wouldn't work, you shouldn't just assume it's because there's no Orks there. It doesn't really confirm it if it's in-universe speculation and the fact that it's not all Ork weapons doesn't support the theory.
It's the symbol for the centre of the Tau Empire. Page 55 of the previous Tau codex says "the common symbol of the Tau Empire...is displayed on the armour of all fire caste warriors"
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BrotherOfBone wrote: In terms of the Orks stuff it states in the 5E Codex that some Ork weapons don't fire when used by races other than Orks, confirming that they do believe that they fire because Orks think they should.
An in-universe report from a techpriest states that ork weapons won't work unless fired by an ork.
That's as reliable as a XIXth century physicist speaking about aether.
War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
BrotherOfBone wrote: In terms of the Orks stuff it states in the 5E Codex that some Ork weapons don't fire when used by races other than Orks, confirming that they do believe that they fire because Orks think they should.
An in-universe report from a techpriest states that ork weapons won't work unless fired by an ork.
That's as reliable as a XIXth century physicist speaking about aether.
Not sure if you're agreeing with me as I don't understand the reference
Xyptc wrote: The misconception that Tyranids only consume the plants and animals on a world. Nuh uh, they strip it down to the bedrock and take a truckload of minerals with them too.
This is wrong, unless things have changed since the last time I read up on the Tyranids. Tyranids consume until all organic matter is gone, leaving the rest. I remember this because I've always thought it funny that Tyranids and (old, I guess) Necrons could theoretically be on the same planet and ignore each other, since they're after different parts of the planet.
No, going back as far as the Sherman Bishop-derived fan-fluff that became canon during the third edition Codex, Tyranid consumption of a world strips so much off of it that a planet is noticeably smaller once the Hive Fleet moves on.
As mentioned above, they strip organic matter, the atmosphere, the oceans, useful minerals and apparently even leech thermal energy through vents to the core dug by Magma-Corers. There has been nothing to contradict this, although obviously the full scale of the planet-stripping depends on the size of the Hive Fleet in question.
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BrotherOfBone wrote: Not sure if you're agreeing with me as I don't understand the reference
AFAIK, aether has been totally disproved out of existence, he is not agreeing with you.
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
Yep. Tyranids leave behind nothing but a lifeless, dead rock in space when they finish with a world.
Brother of Bone wrote:Not sure if you're agreeing with me as I don't understand the reference
Ork weapons work just fine if you pick it up and squeeze the trigger, assuming there's a round in the chamber. The AdMech believes that these weapons cannot possibly function normally, thus requiring Xeno magic, as they don't match human design specs. The AdMech, however, is extremely humanocentrist, and has varying degrees of competency within its ranks.
It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised.
- Orks definitely have some influence on the things around them just by believing certain things. As far as I've seen it's just a theory, not a confirmed thing.
- Ethereal mind control is confirmed. I know there is one quote in the new Tau codex in regards to Aun'va which implies it, but it is not outright stated and there are other explanations for that quote. I may be wrong on this though as i don't actually have the latest codex.
Spoiler:
Co'tor Shas wrote: I thought it would be interesting we we all shared common fluff misconceptions that we see.
I'l start
This is not the symbol of the tau empire
That is the symbol of the
T fire caste.. It irritates me to no end when people get that wrong.
It is also the Symbol for the T'au sept, so it is the symbol for the Tau empire as well.
Tau codex, page 11. under T'au. I'l even add a pic for your convenience.
Spoiler:
See, I told you it's a common misconception . If you look at page 7 you'll see the caste symbols.
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Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
kronk wrote: Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
sebster wrote: Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens
BaronIveagh wrote: Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace.
Faithful... Enlightened... Ambitious... Brethren... WE NEED A NEW DRIVER! THIS ONE IS DEAD! 
Forest hunter sept ~3500 
guardians of the covenant 4th company ~ 6000
Warrior based hive fleet
The Empire 
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Order of the Righteous Armour - 542 points so far. 
. If you look at page 7 you'll see the caste symbols.