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Hey all,

I'll just cut to the chase and share this link: http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Stompas-n-Krusherz-Collection

Long story short, Orks have their own "Imperial Knight" in a way. These new models are known as Morkanauts and Gorkanauts. Last time GamesWorkshop released brand new models for an old codex, a new codex followed (i.e., Tempestsus models and Astra Militarum anyone?) So let me know, has anyone heard when the new ork codex will be coming out? Thanks!


The new models look orkish enough, though they could use..........MOAR DAKKA!

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The new Ork model Morka/Gorkanaught. Is soooooo underwhelming. Will not be buying any. Not a super heavy, transports a hole 6 models the current White Dwarf states that it has to avoid enemy dreadnaughts and Imperial titans will kill it out right. All that none great stuff for a wopping 245-310pts. So it is not even cheap.
Another white dwarf give away is that KFF will be Inv save BUT only affects models with in 6" not units. So yaaaaa

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Orkhead wrote:
The new Ork model Morka/Gorkanaught. Is soooooo underwhelming. Will not be buying any. Not a super heavy, transports a hole 6 models the current White Dwarf states that it has to avoid enemy dreadnaughts and Imperial titans will kill it out right. All that none great stuff for a wopping 245-310pts. So it is not even cheap.
Another white dwarf give away is that KFF will be Inv save BUT only affects models with in 6" not units. So yaaaaa


It will die to Imperial Knights and titans, which cost more, but could probably take most dreadnaughts without breaking a sweat.

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Orkhead wrote:
The new Ork model Morka/Gorkanaught. Is soooooo underwhelming. Will not be buying any. Not a super heavy, transports a hole 6 models the current White Dwarf states that it has to avoid enemy dreadnaughts and Imperial titans will kill it out right. All that none great stuff for a wopping 245-310pts. So it is not even cheap.
Another white dwarf give away is that KFF will be Inv save BUT only affects models with in 6" not units. So yaaaaa


Where's the dakka dakka equivalent for this?:

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I'm actually really shocked they didn't try to release Codex: Gorkanaut/Morkanaut before the codex for $49.99, with only two unit entries for the Gorkanaut and the Morkanaut.
   
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You can get a look at the new flash gitz on page 63 of the Ork rumors thread. They look pretty cool, and throw out a ton more dakka than last edition for less points.

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 Exergy wrote:
Orkhead wrote:
The new Ork model Morka/Gorkanaught. Is soooooo underwhelming. Will not be buying any. Not a super heavy, transports a hole 6 models the current White Dwarf states that it has to avoid enemy dreadnaughts and Imperial titans will kill it out right. All that none great stuff for a wopping 245-310pts. So it is not even cheap.
Another white dwarf give away is that KFF will be Inv save BUT only affects models with in 6" not units. So yaaaaa


It will die to Imperial Knights and titans, which cost more, but could probably take most dreadnaughts without breaking a sweat.


+1 to that. 3 extra HP and 1 extra armour compared to a normal SM dread.
   
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Okay so here's what I dont get.

The Stompa is only 5 pounds costlier than the Nauts and substantially larger?


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Yeah pretty disappointed with the Nauts, really would have thought the Ork "Knight" would be good at close combat =/

 Exergy wrote:
You can get a look at the new flash gitz on page 63 of the Ork rumors thread. They look pretty cool, and throw out a ton more dakka than last edition for less points.

+someone mentioning KFF rules


Cheers for pointing those out. KFF is still all good for my mechanized Orks but by god foot sloggers are gonna get *worse* than before...
   
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 Sir Arun wrote:
Okay so here's what I dont get.

The Stompa is only 5 pounds costlier than the Nauts and substantially larger?



Is this where we say "its not about the size but how you use it" ? Coz thats how I feel about this comparison. I dont wanna use an apoc unit in normal games, even if their rules say its okay now. To me that would just be too cheesy/waac.
   
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Honestly the Stompa is a pretty tame superheavy, aside from those builds that stuff it with meks etc.

Alongside the Baneblade I'd have no problem facing it, especially with prior warning.
   
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What I'm saying is that you could proxy a Stompa to be a Naut instead of saving 5 pounds and getting a much more hideous and smaller model.

Imagine the Wraithknight was just 5 pounds cheaper than a Revenant Titan....nobody would buy it.

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 Dakkamite wrote:
Honestly the Stompa is a pretty tame superheavy, aside from those builds that stuff it with meks etc.

Alongside the Baneblade I'd have no problem facing it, especially with prior warning.


Thats kinda the point I was making. With the stompa youd probably feel like a douche for bringing it without alerting your opponent. With the naughts, well theyre just heavy support so its free game.

Youll never have someone say "omg I cant believe you brought noughts, we didnt agree to play that kind of game" but you more than likely will with a stompa.
   
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Doesn't explain the pricing tho......

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Doesn't explain the pricing tho......


GW. There, price explained.

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I am really struggling to comprehend how anyone can say those 'nauts look acceptable or good.



Killa-Kans have a scrapyard charm

Stompas look a bit more immature but also have a charm all of their own in a comic way



The 'nauts however look like a child designed it and stuck on as much gak as they thought would be cool. Yes, I know this was some model designers pride and joy but that doesn't mean that it's good.

A few questions:
a) How is it supposed to move? It's legs are stuck on the sides I suppose it's legs swing around like in the video below?
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b) How is it mean't to move over obstacles when it has a massive belly grinding into the ground in front of it?

c) This is all I can think of... with those stubby little arms and belly
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 Dakkamite wrote:
Yeah pretty disappointed with the Nauts, really would have thought the Ork "Knight" would be good at close combat =/


We dont know what the fist of gork will do. It could be strength D, it could be just str10 but we dont know. Guessing they will still die to an Imperial Knight, which costs an additional 100 points, but by how much?


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 Exergy wrote:
 Dakkamite wrote:
Yeah pretty disappointed with the Nauts, really would have thought the Ork "Knight" would be good at close combat =/


We dont know what the fist of gork will do. It could be strength D, it could be just str10 but we dont know. Guessing they will still die to an Imperial Knight, which costs an additional 100 points, but by how much?

new cannons, mek, and MANz
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I just think it looks way to clean and if you added big shoulder pads it would look like a really fat giant terminator...


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 Dakkamite wrote:
Yeah pretty disappointed with the Nauts, really would have thought the Ork "Knight" would be good at close combat =/

 Exergy wrote:
You can get a look at the new flash gitz on page 63 of the Ork rumors thread. They look pretty cool, and throw out a ton more dakka than last edition for less points.

+someone mentioning KFF rules


Cheers for pointing those out. KFF is still all good for my mechanized Orks but by god foot sloggers are gonna get *worse* than before...


Ork's also like Dakka too, and they have tons of Dakka.

Though the Gork one is slightly better with Rampage in melee.

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 Sir Arun wrote:
Okay so here's what I dont get.

The Stompa is only 5 pounds costlier than the Nauts and substantially larger?

http://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/920x950/99020103016_StompaNCrusherz01.jpg


Is this where we say "its not about the size but how you use it" ? Coz thats how I feel about this comparison. I dont wanna use an apoc unit in normal games, even if their rules say its okay now. To me that would just be too cheesy/waac.


What are you suppose to do with 'naut? 6 model transport capacity is basically worthless because no assult vehicle, firepoints, can't get loads of model safely across battlefield and walker is slow.
Most guns 'naut has are anti- light infantry which orks already have alot. Bigger guns are single shot with bs 2.

On top of that you can use the kustom stompa rules from IA8 for stompa.

Every time I hear "in my opinion" or "just my opinion" makes me want to strangle a puppy. People use their opinions as a shield that other poeple can't critisize and that is bs.

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I dub it a fail unless the new dex has some sort of crazy good 6 Ork unit.
Would have been better to drop the transport and point total as well.

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If you aren't disembarking - bunch of repair meks

If you are maybe the new Flash gits for a round of dakka before they die, or a few MANZ..

We'll see when the codex drops.

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Hopefully we can just load the thing up with bomb squigs.

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 Wulfmar wrote:

How is it mean't to move over obstacles when it has a massive belly grinding into the ground in front of it?


What obstacles? That word isn't in the Ork language. Any Ork that tells other Orks to watch out for obstacles deserves to be beaten to death.

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