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deitpike wrote:By the Canadian flag next to your name, I'm guessing you are in Canada.
You should remember October 2008 when Canada had an across the board price reduction.
Easy to remember what you don't like, and overlook a 10-20% price drop on everything in the shop.

While the 08 adjustment had more to do with GW restructuring and the weakness of the American dollar than GW "helping us out"... The large drops were mostly limited to box sets such as Battleforces dropping from $130 to $108 (17%) and regiments dropping from $45 to $40 (11%). The cost of blisters barely moved, and most metal regiments droped by $5 or stayed the same.

I suppose we should have been thankful that GW was throwing us a bone by pushing prices towards the 10-20% more expensive (as opposed to the customary 30-50% more expensive due to the weak dollar) compared to ordering it from the US - after all, it could be worse. We could be in Australia.

Agamemnon2 wrote:or do it as a personal affront to my counterparts on the other side of the argument?

Are you calling yourself a troll?

The only reason I can think of is that in Jan 1 the UK VAT rate goes back up from 15% to 17.5%. GW took the 2.5% off their prices during the time the rate was lowered, and they will legally be required to put it back on. However that does not affect any buyers outside the EU, who should never be paying VAT anyway.

Doesn't that mean KK, that GW will use it as an excuse to drive the prices up everywhere?

I mean, the UK gets a 2.5% price increase, and across the ocean where I live we get a 10% price increase when we already pay 40% more than the rest of you.

You know, like a Central Park butterfly causing a storm in Tokyo, or, in this case, Jervis coughing causing us Aussies to get fethed over once again.

Not heard anything about a price rise in the UK beyond VAT going back up, but dunno about the rest of the world. Might happen, might not. It is normally announced in WD though?

Sidstyler wrote:

Agamemnon2 wrote:or do it as a personal affront to my counterparts on the other side of the argument?

Are you calling yourself a troll?

I'm making no positive statements whatsoever about my own motivations. You nerf-herders can go on guessing if you like, I really couldn't give a toss what you think.

Agamemnon2 wrote:You nerf-herders can go on guessing if you like

::punch:: You people can't use that word! That's OUR word!

Well put.

Ok. There will be a price increase in the UK and FW as of January, thanks to the increase in VAT again. There may well be an additional increase as VAT may rise to 20%, as the UK Government is even more determined to destroy our economy than you lot think GW is to hate you.

Whether GW will use this to introduce a price rise elsewhere I cannot say. But as an indie stockist, we've had word of all the recent price "adjustments" over 2 months in advance, and nothing on this one yet. If I hear about it in January, I will let you know but for now I'd say that the sky probably isn't falling.

I hate this situation as much as the next person.. but you know, we've just had a recession and their sales are probably down tenfold on what they were just before it.

I don't welcome this event, but I expect it.

Business for hobbies in general has been good, and I have seen several articles confirming this. FLGS gaming groups are alive an kicking. In terms of GW specifically, they may be finishing up a pretty successful year all told.

I will just look at the shiny, then walk away and buy second hand. Good job Wrex, good job.

Agamemnon2 wrote:I'm making no positive statements whatsoever about my own motivations. You nerf-herders can go on guessing if you like, I really couldn't give a toss what you think.

...you're mean.




MEANIE!!!

This totally sucks. I am glad that my local hobby store has a 10% discount on all warhammer products.

If no one else has heard anything about a price increase, other than possibly VAT related, I'm thinking this is bogus.

The information comes from someone dumping GW stuff at 40% off. He obviously is getting out of selling GW. Why dump something that will soon cost him more to re-order? And I'm not sure what UK discount is to retailers, but it sounds like he is either getting back his wholesale cost, or losing money at 40% off.

I'd easily bet money on this that someone is just using the "Quick! Buy more now before the Price goes up!" strategy.

Now Mikhaila, let's not let logic get in the way of a good GW bashing.

mikhaila wrote:
I'd easily bet money on this that someone is just using the "Quick! Buy more now before the Price goes up!" strategy.

That's horrible.

I never see how buy now works for people. They inevitably buy more than they meant to and
then they buy something else after the price rise. "Look how much money I saved!" Yeah,
right.

mikhaila wrote:If no one else has heard anything about a price increase, other than possibly VAT related, I'm thinking this is bogus.

The information comes from someone dumping GW stuff at 40% off. He obviously is getting out of selling GW. Why dump something that will soon cost him more to re-order? And I'm not sure what UK discount is to retailers, but it sounds like he is either getting back his wholesale cost, or losing money at 40% off.

I'd easily bet money on this that someone is just using the "Quick! Buy more now before the Price goes up!" strategy.

You are almost certainly correct. What's sad is that, because GW has a history of 'price adjustments' (both public and 'stealth'), people will believe him/them.

Thing is, GW is starting to become more than I can afford / no longer cheaper than alternatives.

Consider for instance the price jump in the last five years over models that haven't made the shift from Metal to Plastic.

Example: Orcs & Goblins

Say I wanted a nice, 2000 point list. I could take Grimgor, a good 20 Bodyguard, two Shamans, three units of boyz - one of which Big 'Uns, and a Battle Standard Bearer. For the last bit of points, two bolt throwers. $300 USD, and this is a pretty small army because it has two expensive shamans, a big unit of Black Orcs, a big unit of Big 'Uns, and the regular troops are 7pt Boyz and not 3-4pt goblins. Plus, the 300+ point Lord. Sure, I guess that isn't too bad - $300 for an army you can use continuously, as opposed to a new console with anywhere between no and two games (ooh, that'll last you a few hours).

But go back five years to '04 / '05. Same 2000pt list, now $40 less. With 20 models as metal, that are plastic now. All the other models are the same: Why do the Orcs then cost $40 less (or thus cheaper than one console, and as much as another console vanilla)? And note that this is in favor of GW ATM: What if I had decided to replace Grimgor & his Black Orcs (A nice 700pt chunk of my army) with a Wyvern Boss and some Squig Herds? I've replaced, from GW's current price, about 73 dollars worth of stuff with 190. How much did I replace in the old line? I took out $90 worth of stuff, and replaced it with $110 worth of stuff. Or, new price total, $420 for the new army, $280 for the old. This is a price difference now of $140!

I know not every army is created equal, and some have got cheaper / are no more expensive now than then. But what possible reason is there for an army - with exactly no model difference in the last five years, to go up $140, or 50% of the original cost?

I love it; price hikes in a global recession. I don't know about folks in the U.K. but here in the U.S. prices are dropping on just about everything, even fuel. It doesn't make sense to raise prices when oil prices are lower, thus lower plastic cost and cheaper shipping costs, etc.

GW is about to learn a lesson in economics or at least finally learn what their particular market will bear.

Except it's no way, whatsoever, confirmed.

Jesus, talk about an overreaction from most of you to an unsubstantiated rumor.

Yes. I'm well aware that GW does have a history of raising prices(most often in the summer, mind you). However, at the same time as their "price hikes"(which are usually in the realm of $5 at most) for one price band they LOWER the prices for some other bands.

mikhaila wrote:

I'd easily bet money on this that someone is just using the "Quick! Buy more now before the Price goes up!" strategy.

Thats what I said a page ago.

Railguns wrote:

mikhaila wrote:

I'd easily bet money on this that someone is just using the "Quick! Buy more now before the Price goes up!" strategy.

Thats what I said a page ago.

Doesn't hurt to keep mentioning it to attempt to stem the tide of "OMFG GW! What the hell!" posts.

H.B.M.C. wrote:
I do.

Ok, H' has finally totally flipped and posted "I do" with a link to Maelstrom, this looks bad folks. It was bad enough hearing of some nut marrying a console game character early this month, H' is marrying a few ranges of miniatures.

Now H.B.M.C. relax and take it easy, we are here to help you. Would you like to ride in the van with the nice doctors.

This rumour is based on a single report from an independent store.

If it comes true, just don't buy any GW Stuff.
They are not the only company on Earth which makes wargame figures and rules.

The only logical response to a totally unconfirmed rumor is to stage a riot and kill all GW employees!

That'll show those random people who make up fake rumors

I was told yesterday by the local GW-selling hobby store owner that GW will raise the prices of some of their product by 10% at some point in february. For example, the 30,- euro troops boxes will become 33,-.

This seems to have become an annual thing, so it is not really a surprise. Any additional confirmation (from other store owners maybe) ?

While I might disagree with some people here about certain legal matters, I hate these GW price increases just as much as everybody else.




In better news, the store had 40% off all their boxes/blisters/codex in the days leading up to Christmas, so I ended up leaving with a lot more stuff than I originally expected

The dude you bought from was a salesman. I do the same thing in my retail store. "Thats the last one we got." "They are changing that design for next year." "I'll give you 10% off of a case." Etc etc. Sales tactics and nothing more. If I want to get rid of something, even at low profit, I'll tell the customer anything. A low profit is better then no profit.

Also, how is it this is the only vendor that does know of a price increase? He's got an inside scoop that no one in the world has?

As I remember it, price increases are announced well ahead of time (again a sales tactic) and the increased items are listed.

Calling BS on this.

Again? I wonder how many people will quit GW over this.

JohnHwangDD wrote:Again? I wonder how many people will quit GW over this.

Oh, I quit buying new stuff (Except Dark Heresy, I'm cool with that) since I heard about the Blood Bowl LRB member being sacked. This is just a mixture of a "Thank goodness I've got out" and "why couldn't I quit a few months from now?" I'll still play the hobby, in a GW store no less, but besides getting the mandatory army book I think I'm about done with my spending. Considering I have over 200 Orc models alone, plus a Wyvern Boss, about a dozen-or-so characters, several war machines, eight trolls, another hundred goblins, 30-ish spider riders, and so on (I got a lot of army boxes / skull pass boxes throughout the years through contests and the like), they'd have to try pretty hard to force me to need a new unit. Like turning Orc Boyz into 20mm miniatures.

Kirasu wrote:The only logical response to a totally unconfirmed rumor is to stage a riot and kill all GW employees!

Not all.. only the slowed monkeys that keep bending us over... we can keep the model designers imo. Lets see.... the bigwigs, the lawyers and jevis. Anything else i missed out on?

If I want to get rid of something, even at low profit, I'll tell the customer anything

Then you're a douchebag.

If you desperately need to get rid of product then just mark it down or something, sell it at a discount. Telling lies just makes you an ass.



But hey, I'm no salesman.