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BlueGiant wrote:So, while I agree that without some severe story gymnastics, Tau falling to Chaos is exceedingly unlikely. However, I think we've all overlooked another set of entities that would likely have a much easier time corrupting our greater good guys: the C'tan.

Given the antipathy to the warp that they have, you would think that these guys would be almost logical food for the Deceiver. Also, let's face it, the Tau really need to get with the 41st Millennium style and get some skulls on their gear.

Funny you should say that:
Tyranid codex has a timeline entry about the T'au welcoming a Necron fleet that just obliterated a Hive Fleet splinter--and then promptly being massacred.

In all honesty, I still don't see why the Tau can't become corrupted by Chaos voluntarily. In my fluff reading experience, the vast majority of Chaos corruptions on a large scale, have been voluntary corruptions of high ranking officials of whatever sect you are playing.

So an Ethereal, perhaps finding them self curious with these warp entities that humans seem to be so afraid of, decides to study it. Finding the potent powers within and their effect on the Imperium, why not dabble? And thus begins the descent into madness.... and for the Greater Good, no less!

Well there's an idea... *wicked grin*

You could just always make a "Farsight" type army that thinks there is some truth to chaos. Use the Farsight rules and I think it could be a really fun modeling experience.

I would also stay away from actual mutations but make their army really out there to show the influence.

Ratbarf wrote:

apwill4765 wrote:

garret wrote:

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garret wrote:Do it. dont let people say not to. you can make anything aslong as it follows the rules of the game and decency.

The rules of decency. . . really? Could you send me a copy? I think it would be easier to follow the fluff than the moving target that is "decency"

Rules of deceny to me mean not making models that offend someone.

. . . every Tau model ever made offends me. Deeply. I don't think Gundam Battlesuits make any sense in the 40k universe. I think I will send GW a letter. Also, most of the new beastmen models offend me too, mainly because they look so awful. Better take those off the shelves.

What offends someone is totally subjective and so I would be MUCH more hesitant to restrict someones imagination for modelling based on that, rather than the restrictions given by the fluff.

I think you are missing the point here. By offensive he means don't make nazi marines unless you are playing in the KKK's secret Battle Bunker, or don't convert a chaos commissar to be on the recieving end of a daemonnette bj if playing with small children. Thats the kind of offensive he means. Whether you find the Tau offensive or not is rather irrelevent, as GW made them. But say you found an army centralised about the KKK beating up on the Foreign Xenos, thats a whole other league of offensive.

That actually is my point. In some circles, KKK beating on foreigners is perfectly acceptable. In others, it is not. In some circles, making a communist russia themed guard army is perfectly acceptable, and in others, it isn't. In some circles modelling and playing demons is ok, and in others (trust me, crazy but true) parents restrict such "unholy" collecting by their children.

If one were to try to make an army so that no one anywhere was offended by it, aka being "decent" to the point of not being offensive, then my gray blobs "The Equal to Everyone Else and Not Better Than Anyone Guard" would be very bland.

The codex would have entries like "knife fighter x" and "gun toting guy A". . .Oh wait, "guy" could be sexist, and the "gun toting" might upset the NRA. . .

These "decency rules" are tricky buggers. This is way OT though, so I'm just gonna drop it here.

Not to mention stab wound victims would find 'knife-toting' offensive, and some super-insecure jock/preppy type of people would probably find building and playing with little plastic men offensive. But I digress.

Wouldn't a cunning DP (especially of WB origin) take great delight in manipulating a group of tau, possibly by turning their "hunter instincts" to the worship of khorne and then sending them off to cause trouble in impirium space?
Also arn't there a couple of active chaos storms near tau space?
As for the low warp sig i'm sure a daemon would rather have some soul juice rather than none at all (think of a starving man in the desert, he'd quite happily eat a packet of crisps that he found (tau world) if he couldn't find an all you can eat buffet (imperial hive world)

Warp Storms aren't "Chaos Storms".

DerangdFlamingo wrote:...think of a starving man in the desert, he'd quite happily eat a packet of chips that he found (tau world) if he couldn't find an all you can eat buffet (imperial hive world)

There you go. I fixed it for you.

The daemons aren't a starving man in a desert though. They are a man who has already ordered at the Omega. To get at the Tau, he'd have to leave that fine establishment and drive 20 minutes to a McDonalds and order there, except the restroom have flooded and they have to evacuate the building because the waste is flamable. After several hours of mucking about, he'd finally get his meal, which is far less filling or tasty than the damn pancakes he'd get at the Omega in the first place.

Kanluwen wrote:Warp Storms aren't "Chaos Storms".

Yeah your're right, my bad :p


Looking through the chaos daemons codex theres 3 warp storms within reasnable distance of the tau empire although it looks like Van Grothes Rapidity is the only one near enough to cause real problems

DarkHound wrote:The daemons aren't a starving man in a desert though. They are a man who has already ordered at the Omega. To get at the Tau, he'd have to leave that fine establishment and drive 20 minutes to a McDonalds and order there, except the restroom have flooded and they have to evacuate the building because the waste is flamable. After several hours of mucking about, he'd finally get his meal, which is far less filling or tasty than the damn pancakes he'd get at the Omega in the first place.

But that's not true... you know what, this is actually a rather stupid argument.... I'm leaving...

DerangdFlamingo wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Warp Storms aren't "Chaos Storms".

Yeah your're right, my bad :p


Looking through the chaos daemons codex theres 3 warp storms within reasnable distance of the tau empire although it looks like Van Grothes Rapidity is the only one near enough to cause real problems

The thing is it doesn't really matter, whatsoever, that there's 3 Warp Storms.

The Tau don't utilize warp travel. They utilize FTL.

they use a form of warp travel, i think necrons are the only ones with decent FTL tech (that dosn't involve losing your soul and such). and the warp storm thing was more a rebbutal to those saying chaos wouldn't be interested cause the eye of terrors on the other side of the galaxy. plus theplanets surreounding any permanent warp storm tend to start becoming different

No. They don't. Tau use something similar to the Necrons.

It's the reason why the Tau aren't overly present elsewhere in the galaxy, their FTL tech isn't anywhere up to par.

To requote the lexi bit about tau warp travel...

The Tau achieve faster-than-light travel by "diving" into the Warp and being subsequently flung out a great distance from where they entered. There are positives and negatives to this method of travel. Because their ships have such minimal contact with the Warp and are in a sense just skimming the surface, their travel is relatively safe, but a flaw in this design is that their speed is greatly reduced in comparison to races which immerse themselves fully in the Warp.

"Diving" into the Warp != Warp travel.

It's basically how travel in Farscape was described.

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