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Watch out for the Great Skul because suddenly you'll be miscasting on double 1s and 2s as well as 6s when casting at his deathstar.

I hit a friend of mine with it during our last game and watched his level 4 wizard evaporate on turn 1. For 35 points, it's an awesome buy and works against every spell except vortexes.

skyth wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:

skyth wrote:If the spell hits the unit, it can be transferred to another unit. No exception for template spells.

Spells that Target the unit can get bounced. out of the uber spells only PoS is a direct damage spell(and as such targets the unit)


i think the runemaw should work against all spells(and it was intended to be that way), but at the time it was written there weren't any spells that didn't directly target a unit.

Just borrowed a copy of the army book. That'll teach me to go by the wording in army builder and a friend's explanation.

GT still has his spells confused, out of PoS, Purple sun and dwellers below, only dwellers can be runemaw'd.

IIRC, the Greatskull is on doubles of any kind(might be wrong)

I am kind of curious about just how old this player is. The older he is the more likely I would want to just stomp him into the ground, but if he is fairly young then maybe he can still be saved. We used to have a player at my FLGS that was in his 50's that was a real pain to play with and a good number of people dreaded having to play with him during a local tournament.

I would wonder that too.


it is possable that he was just really lucky in his first round of gaming(natural skills)

that doesn't excuse the 4 hour thing(which could have been his idea of playing "Point denial") which means he is a duche.



most likely, D-bag that lied about his skill to buff his ranking. possably a D-bag that just has natural talant and/or textbook knowledge.

either way, still a D-bag.

NewDeal wrote:I am kind of curious about just how old this player is. The older he is the more likely I would want to just stomp him into the ground, but if he is fairly young then maybe he can still be saved. We used to have a player at my FLGS that was in his 50's that was a real pain to play with and a good number of people dreaded having to play with him during a local tournament.

He might not be 50 yet, but then again, he might. Certainly no hair of any color other than gray anywhere on his head. Not just a confused kid, in other words.

As for people who were encouraging me/us to talk to him, this will happen at some point. Call me passive-aggressive, but what I'm hoping will happen is that he'll complain about my list cheese and the conversation will proceed from there.

My ideal outcome here looks a bit like this, since I have to play him twice:
Game 1) he gets roffelstomped by me. Conversation occurs as above. Discussion ensues as to what we'd like the metagame to look like and the league's standards with regard to slowplaying, etc. An understanding of some sort is reached.
Game 2) I play a softer, all-comers list, we have a good time, order is restored. I'd still like to win, of course Possibly several beers are consumed, though this is optional.

We've got the whole semester to play the games, more or less, so it may take some time. I'll post an update here if anything happens. Thanks all for your interest.

I have a request for the OP:

Would you please provide the game as a battle report, and keep the result a secret until the report is posted? that is the kind of thing I'd love to read with a bowl of popcorn.

Grey Templar wrote:IIRC, the Greatskull is on doubles of any kind(might be wrong)

Double 1's, double 2's and double 6's.
(used to be 1's 2's and 3's).

-Matt

Grey Templar wrote:IIRC, the Greatskull is on doubles of any kind(might be wrong)

I think you're confusing it with the Hellheart which is a one use item that forces the opponent to roll on the gut magic miscast table on any double IIRC.

Didn't read all the posts so sorry If I miss this. Anything you can get or any spells that remove remain in play spells hurt ogres pretty bad if you can dispel their buffs.

Yes, but then you just hope that the basic profile of an Ogre is sufficient to wade through that.


it's a shame you can't counter dispell a dispell attempt.

Grey Templar wrote:Yes, but then you just hope that the basic profile of an Ogre is sufficient to wade through that.


it's a shame you can't counter dispell a dispell attempt.

That sounds like a horribly vicious cycle.

So... What happened?

^^

It's been three days, give it some time.

*paces*

I have to admit, poetic justice would call for this guy to get a taste of his own medicine. Still, I have to agree with previous posters and suggest taking this guy aside and pointing out that his methods don't fit the courteous atmosphere your group is trying to maintain in the gaming community. For starters, it'll remind him that he's a grown man and should act like one. If you go for the curbstomp first, talk later, you'll lose your position of strength if the dice go belly up on you or the guy turns out to actually be a skilled player.

My own group has dealt with similar situations and curbstomping the offender leads to the guy avoiding the more experienced players and specifically targeting younger, newer players. (Kinda like a board game pedophile, if you think about it) It was only after the guy was confronted outside of a game that he either changed his tune or moved on to other gaming groups.

Okay, how about now? What happened?

Anything yet? Or did he pummel you guys into oblivion too?

My guess is the plan didn't survive first agression intact

Okay I've been following this for ages now and I don't even play fantasy.

The world needs to know what happened to ogre boy : P

Almarine wrote:Okay I've been following this for ages now and I don't even play fantasy.

The world needs to know what happened to ogre boy : P

+1!

Please tell me ogre boy didn't beat them at their own game!

snake wrote:

Almarine wrote:Okay I've been following this for ages now and I don't even play fantasy.

The world needs to know what happened to ogre boy : P

+1!

Please tell me ogre boy didn't beat them at their own game!

I'm starting to think that he did, henceforth no update on the Ogre Boy situation.

I don't know weather to be happy that Ogres won or sad that a total duche bag didn't get his comuppence.

Grey Templar wrote:I don't know weather to be happy that Ogres won or sad that a total duche bag didn't get his comuppence.

This is why you can't fight explosions with bigger explosions. Everyone still ends up explody.

I've been in email contact with our subject. I anticipate Game 1 (of 2) will happen within the next couple of weeks or so. As soon as the game is over, I'll come post it here.

The minute.

The SECOND.

Cross my heart and hope to make him cry.

This... Is a very long tournament.

Man I hope somebody out there can teach this guy a lesson in proper manners.

The main problem I'm going to have here is that the Warhammer world is so hopelessly and comically gruesome and dark, so over-the-top bad, that anything less than "rip his throat out! Eat his heart!" will seem silly.

...so anyway, I'm going to say this:

Don't play the guy with vengeance as a motive. I'll take this a step further: don't do stuff with the purpose of hurting other people. Making people feel bad isn't cool. I mean, we all do stuff that's unkind now and again, but...we shouldn't. And we all know that.

This guy had his reasons for doing what he did. What he did was cruel, and you should do what you can to prevent it in the future. So talk to him!

Maybe the guy honestly doesn't understand what he's doing. Maybe his ability to relate to people is stunted for some reason. We can't blame him for that.
Or maybe the guy's got some serious depression issues, and feels like the only way to drag himself out of these bouts is to be good at his one hobby that he obsesses over too much for his own good.
Maybe his wife just died and he's trying to get on with his life, but really he's still bereaved and bitter and doesn't know what to do beyond lash out at other people.

I know all of this is ridiculous, but my point is this: People do what they do for a reason. And they think that they're reason is a good one-or else they wouldn't do it. And you can't blame someone for having poor judgement. If they had any ability to somehow improve their own judgment, they would! Who wouldn't? If any of us had any say in how reasonable and level-headed we were, we'd all be enlightened and at one with the world. Right? Right.

So, I reiterate. Talk to him. Say "hey dude, those guys didn't have any fun at all with you in those last games, and we're all kind of pissed about it."
Just see what he says! He might be like "Well, whatever, haha. I won", and then you can ask him to leave. There are plenty of people in the world who you won't be able to instill a greater sense of morality into. Unless you're a groundbreaking psychologist or something.
But he might burst into tears and be like "Aw, man, I'm sorry. Just don't kick me out. I just wanted some friends and I wanted to impress you guys".

My guess is it'll be somewhere in-between.

Of course, all of this logic means that, if you go ahead and try to crush him out of spite-that is, if you try to be cruel to him to show him that he was cruel-I won't be able to hold it against you without being a hypocrite myself.
I'll have to assume that you thought you had a good reason and all that stuff. And I'll try. I'll probably think "well, so much for the advancement of human ethics this time", and feel like this was all pointless and self-sustaining, but I'll try to understand. I hope you can, man.

C'mon. Just talk to the guy. For his sake, and for those other kid's, and your's, and mine.


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In fact, I'll go as far to say that I'll report this whole thread to a mod to get it locked. I don't think the spirit of this thread is at all in lines with the spirit of this forum, or of the games its based around.

...unfortunately...I don't know how to contact a mod...Curse my own non-proficiencies with computers.

@ Squash, it's not a tournament, it's a league. Goes all semester.

@ Warpsolution, You represent a large segment of opinion, which I respect without necessarily agreeing 100%. If a mod decides to lock this thread, that's certainly up to them; people can locate a similar thread on Warseer for future updates.

However, I hope you won't take such a drastic step. The theory here is to exchange opinions and ideas, and it would be frightfully ironic if you decided to stifle my expression, or mobilize others to do so, in the interest of kindness and decency. Maybe my approach is contrary to the spirit in which you play your games. I have no quarrel at all with the way you choose to play; if my approach offends you, I certainly won't use it if we ever face each other across a table. If my post on a forum offends you, absent any actual violations of stated policies, I would respectfully suggest that you voice your opinion civilly (which you have certainly done) and then go and read another thread.

@Warpsolution

If you don't like what you see its kind of like wathcing TV simply change the channel my good man. I understand the point you're getting accross but some people in this world just need a good beat down in a game to set them straight. Honestly there is no need to contact a mod because, technicly, we're not doing anything wrong. As Malleus said if this gets blocked here Ill just go over to Warseer and follow it.