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2011/12/30 01:05:36
Subject: Tau and STC.
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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im2randomghgh wrote:Taking an intact STC from the mechanicus would be like walking into the Imperial palace and kidnapping the emperor. It simply would not happen, and outrageous amounts of power would be leveled at the Tau. Assuming the tau found one without the Admech knowing, they could increase their technological level and maybe achieve full warp capabilities.
That would be scary for their enemies.
Even if they acquired superior tech, the Imperium would just drown them in blood and bury them in corpses. Eve if they acquire complete warp drives, they couldn't operate them properly without psykers of their own. If they use psykers from other races, it'll end up like Dark Crusade. Untrained psykers opening a warp portal; even if daemons aren't drawn to Tau, they still wouldn't hesitate to pour through said portals and ravage the mortal worlds beyond.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2011/12/30 01:23:54
Subject: Tau and STC.
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Tadashi wrote:im2randomghgh wrote:Taking an intact STC from the mechanicus would be like walking into the Imperial palace and kidnapping the emperor. It simply would not happen, and outrageous amounts of power would be leveled at the Tau. Assuming the tau found one without the Admech knowing, they could increase their technological level and maybe achieve full warp capabilities.
That would be scary for their enemies.
Even if they acquired superior tech, the Imperium would just drown them in blood and bury them in corpses. Eve if they acquire complete warp drives, they couldn't operate them properly without psykers of their own. If they use psykers from other races, it'll end up like Dark Crusade. Untrained psykers opening a warp portal; even if daemons aren't drawn to Tau, they still wouldn't hesitate to pour through said portals and ravage the mortal worlds beyond.
They already have the Nicassar.
All they're missing is complete warp drives and stronger gellar fields.
If they could spread, they would grow much, much faster. I am willing to bet less than 1% of habitable planets are owned by a faction in 40k.
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2011/12/30 01:25:36
Subject: Tau and STC.
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im2randomghgh wrote:They already have the Nicassar.
The Nicassar do not have the ability to pilot through the warp like the Navis Nobilitae do.
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2011/12/30 01:33:03
Subject: Tau and STC.
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
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Melissia wrote:im2randomghgh wrote:They already have the Nicassar.
The Nicassar do not have the ability to pilot through the warp like the Navis Nobilitae do.
At this point, there is quite little about them, and we do not know their capabilities. It is likely you are correct, but I was responding to the fact that someone said the tau have no psykers in their empire.
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2011/12/30 01:46:52
Subject: Tau and STC.
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Tadashi wrote:King Crow wrote:I have to agree with the possibility of the Tau having found one and already tore it apart and improved on it, that being how they advanced technologically. But wouldn't Tau weapons and vehicles look and act much different though? I'm under the Impression that stc designs didn't have skimming technology, correct me if i'm wrong.
Land Speeders are STC-tech. But STC tech is very human in design, so I doubt if the Tau had found one. And even in the Dark Age, plasma tech was very unstable. And the Tau plasma tech is stable and different. Human plasma tech works using miniature plasma generators. Tau plasma tech works by de-stabilizing particles as they progress out of a pulse weapons barrel. And compared to Imperial/Eldar skimmers, Tau are quite quiet.
AHHHH i can't belive i forgot about the land speeder! Yeah that does support that theory alot now. But i suppose they're alot of good solid theories out there. Hopefully we'll find out soon enough!
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2011/12/30 01:52:02
Subject: Tau and STC.
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King Crow wrote:Tadashi wrote:King Crow wrote:I have to agree with the possibility of the Tau having found one and already tore it apart and improved on it, that being how they advanced technologically. But wouldn't Tau weapons and vehicles look and act much different though? I'm under the Impression that stc designs didn't have skimming technology, correct me if i'm wrong.
Land Speeders are STC-tech. But STC tech is very human in design, so I doubt if the Tau had found one. And even in the Dark Age, plasma tech was very unstable. And the Tau plasma tech is stable and different. Human plasma tech works using miniature plasma generators. Tau plasma tech works by de-stabilizing particles as they progress out of a pulse weapons barrel. And compared to Imperial/Eldar skimmers, Tau are quite quiet.
AHHHH i can't belive i forgot about the land speeder! Yeah that does support that theory alot now. But i suppose they're alot of good solid theories out there. Hopefully we'll find out soon enough!
We'll know they found one if we suddenly see tau of iron running around 
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2011/12/30 02:13:38
Subject: Tau and STC.
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Didn't the imperium explore the whole Tau sector in the 35th mellinia? Wouldn't they have found an stc when they found the Tau?
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2011/12/30 02:30:36
Subject: Tau and STC.
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
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King Crow wrote:Didn't the imperium explore the whole Tau sector in the 35th mellinia? Wouldn't they have found an stc when they found the Tau?
Maybe if it was on the surface. The tau DID find an ancient weapon of enormous awesomeness (dawn blade) on an abandoned world and seem to just find technology all the time, so it is plausible.
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2011/12/30 03:50:31
Subject: Tau and STC.
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im2randomghgh wrote:King Crow wrote:Tadashi wrote:King Crow wrote:I have to agree with the possibility of the Tau having found one and already tore it apart and improved on it, that being how they advanced technologically. But wouldn't Tau weapons and vehicles look and act much different though? I'm under the Impression that stc designs didn't have skimming technology, correct me if i'm wrong.
Land Speeders are STC-tech. But STC tech is very human in design, so I doubt if the Tau had found one. And even in the Dark Age, plasma tech was very unstable. And the Tau plasma tech is stable and different. Human plasma tech works using miniature plasma generators. Tau plasma tech works by de-stabilizing particles as they progress out of a pulse weapons barrel. And compared to Imperial/Eldar skimmers, Tau are quite quiet.
AHHHH i can't belive i forgot about the land speeder! Yeah that does support that theory alot now. But i suppose they're alot of good solid theories out there. Hopefully we'll find out soon enough!
We'll know they found one if we suddenly see tau of iron running around
I guess the drones and mech suits don't count.
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2011/12/30 04:03:05
Subject: Tau and STC.
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nomotog wrote:im2randomghgh wrote:King Crow wrote:Tadashi wrote:King Crow wrote:I have to agree with the possibility of the Tau having found one and already tore it apart and improved on it, that being how they advanced technologically. But wouldn't Tau weapons and vehicles look and act much different though? I'm under the Impression that stc designs didn't have skimming technology, correct me if i'm wrong.
Land Speeders are STC-tech. But STC tech is very human in design, so I doubt if the Tau had found one. And even in the Dark Age, plasma tech was very unstable. And the Tau plasma tech is stable and different. Human plasma tech works using miniature plasma generators. Tau plasma tech works by de-stabilizing particles as they progress out of a pulse weapons barrel. And compared to Imperial/Eldar skimmers, Tau are quite quiet.
AHHHH i can't belive i forgot about the land speeder! Yeah that does support that theory alot now. But i suppose they're alot of good solid theories out there. Hopefully we'll find out soon enough!
We'll know they found one if we suddenly see tau of iron running around
I guess the drones and mech suits don't count.
It was a joke...like men of iron...
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2011/12/30 06:58:01
Subject: Tau and STC.
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Focused Fire Warrior
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well the tau could make it for them at a cheaper rate.......
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2011/12/30 08:03:36
Subject: Tau and STC.
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im2randomghgh wrote:
They already have the Nicassar.
All they're missing is complete warp drives and stronger gellar fields.
Psykers can't navigate the Warp, Navigators can. And they are special kind of mutant used only for this matter.
But I would be very interested to see how their first mission trough the Warp was without gellar fields
Even more when one of their ships return to T'au full of Daemons.
If they could spread, they would grow much, much faster. I am willing to bet less than 1% of habitable planets are owned by a faction in 40k.
There are 400 - 600 star systems in our galaxy.
There is around 50 billion planets, 500 million of which could be located in the habitable zone of their parent star.
~million is held by the Imeprium, the largest most powerful political body in the galaxy.
Orks have the rest
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For Emperor and Imperium!!!!
None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!! 
Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
 "Pain is temporary, honor is forever"
Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
 in your name it shall be done"
My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
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2011/12/30 09:28:11
Subject: Tau and STC.
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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If the Tau start building their own versions of the Men on Iron, I'm seeing visions of the same AI rebellion that occurred at the height of the Dark Age of Technology. And while I agree that Navigators, not psykers, pilot Human vessels through the warp, they're an off-shoot of psychic research conducted during the Dark Age. The Tau CANNOT understand the warp. It doesn't matter whether or not they get advanced technology, they simply cannot know it in the same way emergent/emerging psychic races like Eldar and Humans know its powers and dangers. The results would be catastrophic, with the Tau experiments on non-Tau psykers opening portals and unleashing untold horrors on the galaxy.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2011/12/30 10:03:08
Subject: Tau and STC.
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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Tadashi wrote:If the Tau start building their own versions of the Men on Iron, I'm seeing visions of the same AI rebellion that occurred at the height of the Dark Age of Technology.
I posted a thread about that, Tau fans claim that was impossible because Tau are to nice.
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For Emperor and Imperium!!!!
None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!!
Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever"
Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done"
My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
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2011/12/30 12:20:51
Subject: Tau and STC.
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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As if. The Emperor outlawed AIs not because He thought it was tech-heresy, but because He knew regardless, Human or Xenos, AIs would ultimately turn on their creations. That's why Machine Spirits lack true self-awareness capabilities.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2011/12/30 13:13:51
Subject: Tau and STC.
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Tough Tyrant Guard
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Damn that is a cool story plot though. Tau start to expand greatly from a STC they find but midway through they start to have trouble with the AI saying they dontblike the greater good anymore.
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"Strike first, strike hard, no mercy."
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2011/12/30 13:22:04
Subject: Tau and STC.
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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Kinda like Tiberium Sun. The AI says, 'I am the embodiment of the Greater Good.', then has all Tau AIs (drones, etc.) start attacking the Tau. It's not just the Imperium who's gonna get involved, even the Eldar probably, foreseeing disaster should rogue AI rampage through the galaxy.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2011/12/30 17:00:39
Subject: Tau and STC.
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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I think that Tau finding an Iron Men STC and utilizing it woudl be a great mistake for them.
We could debate this but Kroothawks law say only 1 Tau genocidal thread per week
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For Emperor and Imperium!!!!
None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!!
Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever"
Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done"
My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
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2011/12/30 17:44:12
Subject: Tau and STC.
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Brother Coa wrote:I think that Tau finding an Iron Men STC and utilizing it woudl be a great mistake for them.
We could debate this but Kroothawks law say only 1 Tau genocidal thread per week
Oh sense when do you care? Your a troll you troll people. but anyway how do we know tau don't already have men of iron. Just shaped like dinner plates. Some of there drones are really advanced farmers or miners.
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2011/12/30 17:57:45
Subject: Tau and STC.
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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nomotog wrote:
Oh sense when do you care? Your a troll you troll people.
I don't troll, I am just trying to prove that I am right.
but anyway how do we know tau don't already have men of iron. Just shaped like dinner plates. Some of there drones are really advanced farmers or miners.
Then we can expect AI apocalypse soon.
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For Emperor and Imperium!!!!
None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!!
Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever"
Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done"
My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
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2011/12/30 18:02:49
Subject: Tau and STC.
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Fireknife Shas'el
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Right about what?
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2011/12/30 18:12:56
Subject: Tau and STC.
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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nomotog wrote:Right about what?
Random Tau fan write: "Tau can totally crush IoM in one week."
I say: "No it cannot, Imperium is to big for them."
And he call me a troll.
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For Emperor and Imperium!!!!
None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!!
Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever"
Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done"
My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
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2011/12/30 18:16:49
Subject: Tau and STC.
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Brother Coa wrote:im2randomghgh wrote:
They already have the Nicassar.
All they're missing is complete warp drives and stronger gellar fields.
Psykers can't navigate the Warp, Navigators can. And they are special kind of mutant used only for this matter.
But I would be very interested to see how their first mission trough the Warp was without gellar fields
Even more when one of their ships return to T'au full of Daemons.
If they could spread, they would grow much, much faster. I am willing to bet less than 1% of habitable planets are owned by a faction in 40k.
There are 400 - 600 star systems in our galaxy.
There is around 50 billion planets, 500 million of which could be located in the habitable zone of their parent star.
~million is held by the Imeprium, the largest most powerful political body in the galaxy.
Orks have the rest
1. The night lords novels disagree with you.
2. Habitable for tau, orks and humans are different things. tau like very dry, arid worlds, so basically Arrakis. Orks can live pretty much anywhere. humans can terraform. Tau could too if they had an STC. Automatically Appended Next Post: And AI doesn't automatically mean they will attack their masters. Have any of you read the Polity novels by Neal Asher?
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2011/12/30 18:21:27
Subject: Tau and STC.
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im2randomghgh wrote:
And AI doesn't automatically mean they will attack their masters. Have any of you read the Polity novels by Neal Asher?
No, but that would be something new - an AI living in peace among organics. Automatically Appended Next Post: im2randomghgh wrote:Habitable for tau, orks and humans are different things. tau like very dry, arid worlds, so basically Arrakis. Orks can live pretty much anywhere. Humans can terraform. Tau could too if they had an STC.
Why would Tau need STC to terraform?
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For Emperor and Imperium!!!!
None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!!
Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever"
Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done"
My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
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2011/12/30 18:25:28
Subject: Tau and STC.
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Brother Coa wrote:im2randomghgh wrote:
And AI doesn't automatically mean they will attack their masters. Have any of you read the Polity novels by Neal Asher?
No, but that would be something new - an AI living in peace among organics.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
im2randomghgh wrote:Habitable for tau, orks and humans are different things. tau like very dry, arid worlds, so basically Arrakis. Orks can live pretty much anywhere. Humans can terraform. Tau could too if they had an STC.
Why would Tau need STC to terraform?
1. That's because sci-fi readers love disaster.
2. We have no evidence of tau terraforming tech, though I think it was hinted at somewhere (forget where) that they were slowly making a world they had taken dryer, but certainly not the full planetary morphing the IoM used to be capable of.
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2011/12/30 18:40:46
Subject: Tau and STC.
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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Well we can't say for sure that they don't have one, being that we have 1.3% knowledge about their technology, culture and customs.
We don't know 100% of Imperium's technological marvels and customs. And we know that 90% of fluff is written about them.
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For Emperor and Imperium!!!!
None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!!
Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever"
Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done"
My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
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2011/12/30 19:54:11
Subject: Tau and STC.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Brother Coa wrote:nomotog wrote:Right about what?
Random Tau fan write: "Tau can totally crush IoM in one week."
I say: "No it cannot, Imperium is to big for them."
And he call me a troll.
I will admit, he's being kinda troll-y, but I've NEVER heard a Tau fan say that Tau could ever defeat the IoM
OT - I can see Tau giving up a STC if the IoM threaten them with a large enough force. But, in my opinion, I believe that Tau tech has surpassed most of the IoM's tech...so I'm not too sure how much a STC would actually help...
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2011/12/30 20:01:57
Subject: Tau and STC.
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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mega_bassist wrote:
I will admit, he's being kinda troll-y, but I've NEVER heard a Tau fan say that Tau could ever defeat the IoM
You missed the best part, the one where he claimed that Tau Fire cast outnumber the Imperial Guard, in general.
OT - I can see Tau giving up a STC if the IoM threaten them with a large enough force. But, in my opinion, I believe that Tau tech has surpassed most of the IoM's tech...so I'm not too sure how much a STC would actually help...
I to believe that Tau would negotiate, maybe wanting to open a few new trade routes or demand a giveaway of few planets - respectfully of course.
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For Emperor and Imperium!!!!
None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!!
Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever"
Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done"
My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
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2011/12/30 20:13:09
Subject: Tau and STC.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
St. Louis, Missouri
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Brother Coa wrote:OT - I can see Tau giving up a STC if the IoM threaten them with a large enough force. But, in my opinion, I believe that Tau tech has surpassed most of the IoM's tech...so I'm not too sure how much a STC would actually help...
I to believe that Tau would negotiate, maybe wanting to open a few new trade routes or demand a giveaway of few planets - respectfully of course.
Holy Gak. I agree with you for once
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2011/12/30 21:45:14
Subject: Tau and STC.
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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mega_bassist wrote:
I will admit, he's being kinda troll-y, but I've NEVER heard a Tau fan say that Tau could ever defeat the IoM
"The Tau kicked Mankind's butt at least twice in the second and third sphere expansions. I really think that the Tau could easily take Holy Terra. Specially since Mankind is already weak because of the Tryranids. For the Greater Good!!!"
go here and see for yourself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FVEGNY2XaI
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For Emperor and Imperium!!!!
None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!!
Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever"
Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done"
My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
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