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DarkStarSabre wrote:

KGatch113 wrote:

I just looked at some prices. 10 Imperial Guardsmen from GW...29.00.

10 Cygnar Long Gunners from PP.....49.99
10 Cygnar Trencher Infantry.....54.99

Damn GW and their high prices. I should make the switch to PP.

As pointed out. 35 points which is respectable for those prices.

Now look at a 1500 point IG army.

Let's make it up entirely of Guardsmen.

Approx. 6 points a piece with no upgrades.

So you g et 60 points per box.

1500/60 = 25 boxes.

Enjoy.

It doesnt matter. 35 points for those prices means Fack all.

PP sets the prices that high because they know people will pay them for GW products so they know people will pay them for their miniatures.

Especially when you can play warmahordes games at any size and you can play 40k games at any size.

They are both still gak VALUE FOR MONEY.

So dont PP Fanboiiiiii to counter his GW Fanboiiiiiii

A lot of the price hike on the new books isn't so much that it's hardback, but that it's in full color compared to previous books. Anyone who has a printer can tell you that that gets expensive.

Hi.
Do we need loads of pretty colour pictures to help us read the rules ?
Oh no, this section of the codex is in boring black and white writing, I could not possibly read this without a colour picture next to it....

Lanrak wrote:Hi.
Do we need loads of pretty colour pictures to help us read the rules ?
Oh no, this section of the codex is in boring black and white writing, I could not possibly read this without a colour picture next to it....

But I think the majority of people who play this game (read: non-tournament gamers) enjoy the pretty pictures and background as much as the game itself. This is why GW refers to people who play the game as "hobbyists"

Gw's annual price increases are in some way related to the way the UK government now works out inflation.

Previously the Government used the Retail Price Index to work out inflation, but they have now changed to using the Consumer Price Index, which has affected inflation across the UK and has had an impact on Retailers.

Costs of goods and services have increased, but inflation is set low and this has an impact on prices.

For a company based in the UK this has a knock on effect globally, and is punishing a lot of businesses here.

GW have apparently factored in a 4-6% percent price rise as they assumed that would be the level of inflation, but of course that has now changed but they have committed themselves.

This is a similar situation for many retailers here.

And of course if VAT keeps changing here that has an impact too.

In terms of army books, i would like them to available in electronic format, preferably with an active search function as finding anything in the books is impossible.

The Necron Codex is like an adventure game book, turn to page X for a rule only to be told to then turn to page Y!! I'm sure they do that so you wear out the spine and the book falls apart, forcing you to buy another one!

I'm sure when I used to play Codex's were £8 and "add-on" ones like the Blood Angels or Space Wolves cost £4.

ReturningPlayer wrote:I'm sure when I used to play Codex's were £8 and "add-on" ones like the Blood Angels or Space Wolves cost £4.

Prior to that they cost about £12-£15. Mind you the second edition codexes were far more meaty, much like the current ones.

Here comes the Doom Sayers saying how bad GW is.

rockerbikie wrote:Here comes the Doom Sayers saying how bad GW is.

Which is an irony in itself coming from an Australian gamer...

rockerbikie wrote:Here comes the Doom Sayers saying how bad GW is.

Compare the £8 3rd edition Codex: Space Marines to a 2nd edition Codex: Ultramarines or Codex: Angels of Death and tell me that one was not siginificantly meatier than the other.

Go on.

I'll be here.

filbert wrote:

rockerbikie wrote:Here comes the Doom Sayers saying how bad GW is.

Which is an irony in itself coming from an Australian gamer...

Look I hate the prices but whining won't do anything. It feels like "Not this Thread Again" meme very quickly. I buy stuff from Blackcultist.com.au instead of GW. I don't like the prices but I would be upset if it closed down at the same time. Games Workshop does do alot of good like help with Tournament Prize money and other things. I try to stay positive because I can't do anything about it.


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DarkStarSabre wrote:

rockerbikie wrote:Here comes the Doom Sayers saying how bad GW is.

Compare the £8 3rd edition Codex: Space Marines to a 2nd edition Codex: Ultramarines or Codex: Angels of Death and tell me that one was not siginificantly meatier than the other.

Go on.

I'll be here.

I did not play 2nd or 3rd edition. I do not know. I want to enjoy what is here and not have a veterm gamer shunt how cheap eveerything was in the past and how I'm getting ripped off. I've been playing 2 years but I still call myself a noob.

I dont often slag off GW with the passion that many people have but I was reading WD and I thought this was a mis-print.

These guys..



£61.50!



thats £12.30 each!

Matty, those guys have been obscenely priced for years.

To give you a brief:
When the Blood Knights were first released with the previous Vampire Counts book, they were available in a box set (same as what's available now) for somewhere in the range of $75 USD or thereabouts.

They were also available in a blister form, with the Castellan(Champion), Standard Bearer, and Musician being available in their own blisters and the standard Knights being available as a random one in a blister.

The models were not like the other "heavy" cavalry of the time(Chaos Knights and Dragon Princes spring to mind), which had some random bits and a piece of a standard Knight model. The steeds were actually full metal, with GW effectively pricing them as "characters".

For some asinine reason, they've continued that pricing. It irks me to no end, especially when you consider that the models aren't even that great, but now I can't even get JUST the Castellan for a Vampire mounted on a Hellsteed.

I did not play 2nd or 3rd edition. I do not know. I want to enjoy what is here and not have a veterm gamer shunt how cheap eveerything was in the past and how I'm getting ripped off. I've been playing 2 years but I still call myself a noob.

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I know what you mean, I'm coming back after not playing in around 10 years and it does "blow my buzz" about GW a bit seeing all the slander they receive on here. But this is the internet so I try to take it all with a pinch of salt.



That being said the price of those Undead Knights is astounding.

If you want BloodKnights I think you should look no further than these guys from Gamezone miniatures, 12 euros each

rockerbikie wrote:

filbert wrote:

rockerbikie wrote:Here comes the Doom Sayers saying how bad GW is.

Which is an irony in itself coming from an Australian gamer...

Look I hate the prices but whining won't do anything. It feels like "Not this Thread Again" meme very quickly. I buy stuff from Blackcultist.com.au instead of GW. I don't like the prices but I would be upset if it closed down at the same time. Games Workshop does do alot of good like help with Tournament Prize money and other things. I try to stay positive because I can't do anything about it.


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DarkStarSabre wrote:

rockerbikie wrote:Here comes the Doom Sayers saying how bad GW is.

Compare the £8 3rd edition Codex: Space Marines to a 2nd edition Codex: Ultramarines or Codex: Angels of Death and tell me that one was not siginificantly meatier than the other.

Go on.

I'll be here.

I did not play 2nd or 3rd edition. I do not know. I want to enjoy what is here and not have a veterm gamer shunt how cheap eveerything was in the past and how I'm getting ripped off. I've been playing 2 years but I still call myself a noob.

Ahh don't worry about it my young friend. When you have been around for 10-20 years with GW and they slag you off when you walk into the store you will feel just as jaded as the rest of us. So when a tatical box of marines reaches 100& aus dollars will you still be into playing GW games? How do you feel around there 'stealth increase' on the LotR stuff? GW does alot of odd things that makes its fans go WTF.

Pacific wrote:If you want BloodKnights I think you should look no further than these guys from Gamezone miniatures, 12 euros each

Which comes out to 15 USD...about the same prices as the Blood Knights were when they were available as individual blisters.

Truth be told, I'm thinking of something else. Awhile back, I bought one of the gorgeous zombie dragon kits and through circumstances beyond my control(my brother using one of my dusting rags to mop up brake fluid) it was ruined. The zombie dragon was replaced by said brother, and so I have two riders but one dragon.

Thinking about getting my hands on a Chaos steed and going from there. Something nice, bulky, and drastically evil looking.

Kanluwen wrote:Which comes out to 15 USD...about the same prices as the Blood Knights were when they were available as individual blisters.

BK were avail as blisters? I dont remember how much they cost, but as current BK are $20 each, thats like double the price for inferior sculpt

rockerbikie wrote:Games Workshop does do alot of good like help with Tournament Prize money and other things.

GW has never supplied turnament prize money. They have over the years supplied product to use as tournament prizes (although for one stretch there it was just product supplied at a discount to tournament organisers, rather than donated outright) but I was under the impression that this had stopped several years ago.

Worst titled thread ever.

spireland wrote:Worst titled thread ever.

what do you prefer?

oo price adjustment?

mattyrm wrote: I dont often slag off GW with the passion that many people have but I was reading WD and I thought this was a mis-print.

These guys..



£61.50!



thats £12.30 each!

Jesus Christ I know! 100$?!

You think that’s bad. A single finecast Master of Ravenwing costs $80AUD. The Australian prices for finecast are so high it’s comical.

Shredsmore wrote:Jesus Christ I know! 100$?!

$165 (£112 or US$175) here in Oz.

candy.man wrote:You think that’s bad. A single finecast Master of Ravenwing costs $80AUD. The Australian prices for finecast are so high it’s comical.

Very true. The only Finecast modles I let myself buy are Tyranids, since they average about $40au without a couple of outriders sitting at $60au (one of which I'll never buy anyway).

How is this worth 38 usd?

You would think Finecast would be cheaper to Aussies since its lighter to ship.

And cost less to insure ( resins float incase the cargo sinks LOL )

insaniak wrote:

Shredsmore wrote:Jesus Christ I know! 100$?!

$165 (£112 or US$175) here in Oz.

Are you bloody serious??? That is absolutely obscene. Honestly that is so far beyond my ability to comprehend I am fekking speechless...


WOW.

$165 is pretty hilarious. That works out to $33 per model.

I don't know how anyone can pay those prices and not feel.. I don't know, the kind of guilt that you sometimes have after a night out and are pulling rumpled up card bills from your back pocket.

Perhaps I'm underestimating how much money people generally have to spend on stuff that is for a pleasurable past time, but I don't think I could ever justify it (perhaps short of the miniatures being able to travel under their own power across the tabletop).

It's funny, I know people often try and make comparisons about computer games and how much they cost. But, I would be quite happy to occasionally buy a new game for $40 or so. Something like the model above, no matter how much I liked it, I wouldn't be able to shake the feeling that somewhere a cackling leprechaun is sat on a mushroom, carefully counting the bills I have just handed over in the shop.