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Pacific wrote:It's funny, I know people often try and make comparisons about computer games and how much they cost. But, I would be quite happy to occasionally buy a new game for $40 or so. Something like the model above, no matter how much I liked it, I wouldn't be able to shake the feeling that somewhere a cackling leprechaun is sat on a mushroom, carefully counting the bills I have just handed over in the shop.

Back when I started working full time 5 years ago, I really got "into" video games. I have 4 systems - PC, PS3, PSP and Wii. Including system costs, over 4 years I calculated I'd spent $10,000au. That included a gaming PC, 2 PS3's (one died out of warranty), PSP, Wii, and an average of 25 games per system at discounted (though not half) price, and other costs like additional controllers, full band packs for Guitar Hero/Rock Band, DLC, etc.

Since I got back into this hobby, I've bought about 1500 points worth of Tyranids and VC (points costs in my sig aren't up to date) and started Infinity, grabbed a Battlefoam 1520XL and some customer trays for it, and now I'm buying terrain for a table. Tyranids, Infinity, terrain and 1520xl were all local price. VC's were bought from the UK before the embargo, and additional foam trays ordered from the US.

This has been over 2 years. I doubt I've even breached $1500au. Trust me, I know how expensive video gaming is if you really get into it. It's expensive. There's a reason I now got back into 40k and only buy one game every 6 months or so.

I personally love hard back books, they give a sense of higher quality I find. Of course the price is unjustifiable, just like everything else GW offers. Right now its tough to have a high interest in GW products in Australia, especially after the embargo.

hotsauceman1 wrote:How is this worth 38 usd?

I just noticed that Helborg has the exact same sword that comes with the Empire general sprue...

-Loki- wrote:

Pacific wrote:It's funny, I know people often try and make comparisons about computer games and how much they cost. But, I would be quite happy to occasionally buy a new game for $40 or so. Something like the model above, no matter how much I liked it, I wouldn't be able to shake the feeling that somewhere a cackling leprechaun is sat on a mushroom, carefully counting the bills I have just handed over in the shop.

Back when I started working full time 5 years ago, I really got "into" video games. I have 4 systems - PC, PS3, PSP and Wii. Including system costs, over 4 years I calculated I'd spent $10,000au. That included a gaming PC, 2 PS3's (one died out of warranty), PSP, Wii, and an average of 25 games per system at discounted (though not half) price, and other costs like additional controllers, full band packs for Guitar Hero/Rock Band, DLC, etc.

Since I got back into this hobby, I've bought about 1500 points worth of Tyranids and VC (points costs in my sig aren't up to date) and started Infinity, grabbed a Battlefoam 1520XL and some customer trays for it, and now I'm buying terrain for a table. Tyranids, Infinity, terrain and 1520xl were all local price. VC's were bought from the UK before the embargo, and additional foam trays ordered from the US.

This has been over 2 years. I doubt I've even breached $1500au. Trust me, I know how expensive video gaming is if you really get into it. It's expensive. There's a reason I now got back into 40k and only buy one game every 6 months or so.

That is subjective though, how much games you buy is completely up to you.

If we go with what you said of 1 warhammer every 6 month. Then $900 AUD x 2 x 4 years = $7200 AUD lets add unlimited supply of primer and paint and hobby product for an even $8000 AUD
Dunno, but gaming doesnt seem so expensive anymore, and you also get to have nice computer.

LunaHound wrote:If we go with what you said of 1 warhammer every 6 month. Then $900 AUD x 2 x 4 years = $7200 AUD lets add unlimited supply of primer and paint and hobby product for an even $8000 AUD
Dunno, but gaming doesnt seem so expensive anymore, and you also get to have nice computer.

I said 1 game every 6 months. As in a video game.

I don't know how you got anything GW related out of "buy one game every 6 months or so.". I don't go buy a Black Reach box or rulebook ever 6 months.

Generally, I buy something hobby related every couple of months. Whether it's a box of Gaunts, a Carnifex, a new building to build, a few infinity models, whatever. Because I'm trying to keep my painitng up with what I have.

It's hard to do that with video games. Unless you like replaying video games or get stuck into one games multiplayer, these days you go through games relatively quickly. On average, a game lasts me 2 weeks, and that's very conservative playing. I did have multiplayer games that I regularly played - Guild Wars, Counter Strike: Source and Bad Company 2 were my primary games near the end. But I like a good single player game, and these days they last no time at all and aren't replayable outside of trophy hunting, which I don't do. So there's a massively fast recycle rate with video games.

Say I buy a box of Hormagaunts. There's at least a month before they're ready to go on the table. I'm also not cycling them out a month later for a unit of Termagants with Devourers. The only game I've spent more time on than, say, building and painting a squad has been Guild Wars. But it's hard to fight MMOs on time spent playing, and harder still when there' no monthly fee and you notice your account age is about 2500 hours. An average game I'm done with quicker than it takes me to get a unit ready to put on the table, and then it's done - I don't look at it anymore.

So, for me personally, I get far more value out of even GW games, paying local Australian prices. And I know, because I looked at what I'd accumulated over 4 years and decided enough's enough.

That said, can't fething wait for Guild Wars 2. Hobby tme will be gone.

Pacific wrote:I don't know how anyone can pay those prices and not feel.. I don't know, the kind of guilt that you sometimes have after a night out and are pulling rumpled up card bills from your back pocket.

Perhaps I'm underestimating how much money people generally have to spend on stuff that is for a pleasurable past time, but I don't think I could ever justify it (perhaps short of the miniatures being able to travel under their own power across the tabletop).

It's funny, I know people often try and make comparisons about computer games and how much they cost. But, I would be quite happy to occasionally buy a new game for $40 or so. Something like the model above, no matter how much I liked it, I wouldn't be able to shake the feeling that somewhere a cackling leprechaun is sat on a mushroom, carefully counting the bills I have just handed over in the shop.

I use rational to justify my purchases. AA good suad depending on how much is in there can give me 20 hours+ of stuff to do. A game for 60$ gives me maybe 8.

-Loki- wrote:

I said 1 game every 6 months. As in a video game.

Sowwy i read wrong. But $10,000 of video games in 4 years is sort of impossible no?

If people want to know the true insanity of GW's prices, i'll give you a strong explaination of detail.

I'm a Australian (proud of it) and i'm a wargamer. It is extremely hard to justify the prices here in the land down under. First, lets take a look at the current AUD dollar to the two biggest wargamer countries in the world. This vaules are from the 27/1/2012

British Pound is worth $0.68 AUD
United States dollar is worth $1.06 AUD

So lets see how much in each country would a box of... oh... Vampire Count Blood Knights go for from the GW's main website.


British price of the unit - $61.50 GBP, equaling $90.99 AUD
US price of the unit - $99.00 USD, equaling $93.26 AUD
Australian price of the unit - $165.00 AUD!

So from shipping from england / united states... you pay a additional 74.01 / 71.74 dollars. No tax nor shipping costs should add such a massive price increase over other countries. How would other countries wargamers cope if they had to buy at AUD prices?

England would have to pay 111.52 GBP
The US would pay 175.15 USD (i'll like to see US sales of this item if they were charged at this price)

This is pretty much price fixing and i'm amazed GW isn't watched and reported by the market watchdog. How do they get away with it? Nintendo did price fixing in the past in 2002, towards europe, and were fined 149 Million euros for price fixing.

Superscope wrote:So lets see how much in each country would a box of... oh... Vampire Count Blood Knights go for from the GW's main website.

That might have been more dramatic if we hadn't just done that on the previous page...


And GW's prices are nothing to do with price fixing. Price Fixing is when competing companies that sell the same product agree to set their prices at the same level. What GW is doing in Australia is not price fixing. It's just setting their prices at a ridiculous level based on an outdated exchange rate and the belief that since Australians have always put up with everything being more expensive than the rest of the world in the past, they'll continue to put up with it now in the face of a worldwide market opening up via the internet and competitors coming out of the woodwork selling product as good or better for a lower price.

Price fixing is illegal. What GW are doing is just stupid.

LunaHound wrote:

-Loki- wrote:

I said 1 game every 6 months. As in a video game.

Sowwy i read wrong. But $10,000 of video games in 4 years is sort of impossible no?

Remember, I'm Australian - whatever you pay across the pond, double it over here. I paid nearly $4000au on just the systems (my PC nearly cost me $2000au (yes, at the time, it was a fething sweet rig), my first PS3 was nearly $800au). Average games were $80au each (I buy pretty much release day, and I dislike trading in games), at least 25 for each system. Beleive me, $10,000au is a conservative figure.

Just wait til GW's annual price rise

Superscope wrote:If people want to know the true insanity of GW's prices, i'll give you a strong explaination of detail.

I'm a Australian (proud of it) and i'm a wargamer. It is extremely hard to justify the prices here in the land down under. First, lets take a look at the current AUD dollar to the two biggest wargamer countries in the world. This vaules are from the 27/1/2012

British Pound is worth $0.68 AUD
United States dollar is worth $1.06 AUD

So lets see how much in each country would a box of... oh... Vampire Count Blood Knights go for from the GW's main website.


British price of the unit - $61.50 GBP, equaling $90.99 AUD
US price of the unit - $99.00 USD, equaling $93.26 AUD
Australian price of the unit - $165.00 AUD!

So from shipping from england / united states... you pay a additional 74.01 / 71.74 dollars. No tax nor shipping costs should add such a massive price increase over other countries. How would other countries wargamers cope if they had to buy at AUD prices?

England would have to pay 111.52 GBP
The US would pay 175.15 USD (i'll like to see US sales of this item if they were charged at this price)

This is pretty much price fixing and i'm amazed GW isn't watched and reported by the market watchdog. How do they get away with it? Nintendo did price fixing in the past in 2002, towards europe, and were fined 149 Million euros for price fixing.

Which totally fails to acknowledge that between a tow thirds and three quarters of retail costs are generated in the country in which the item is sold.

Bear with us in the UK. As soon as we manage to sort out the Eurozone crisis, avoid a double dip recession, manage to grow our economy by more than a single percentage point, slow down the growth in unemployment, end the credit squeeze and return the housing market to growth then the pound will strengthen and although you'll be paying exactly the same number of Aussie Dollars that you have been paying all along, you'll feel better about it.

Thanks for highlighting exactly how much of a crappy time we are having in the UK, while making it about how much you might have to pay for a piece of plastic resin that you might not really want in the first place. Next time someone tells you they have cancer why not try to make them feel better by comparing it to the dilemma that you have over whether to get 3D on your 50" plasma or not.

I'm surprised how many people say you need to spend so much on an army to be able to play, unless a lot has changed since then all you really needed was the rulebook. I remember playing warhammer 40k against my friends on the bedroom floor, no terrain except the plastic tress and ruins that were in the starter set. Neither me nor my friends could afford to have huge armys but the fun was in discussing the game andplaying the game (no matter how small the battles are).

If the rules say you can't play with such small armys then ignore them, if GW won't let you tweak the rules when you play there

And what is the instant rush to get the biggest army possible straight away, if you can afford to then great! More power to you. But a lot of people can't especially students and younger players but you can build your army up over time, you buy a squad of Eldar Guardians or Space Marines and you have them for ever even if a new kit gets released n one is forcing you to buy it.

And I bet a lot of people complaining about the price of GW stuff don't take into account all the things they buy that have a MASSIVE markup. We live in a capatilist society, it has some positives but paying a lot more for something than it's worth is one of it's poor points. Your car, your clothes, fast food, weekly food shopping, the toys you buy for your kids, computers, books, household electrical items, DIY materials and so on. We all pay a lot more for them then they are worth. Nearly everytime you buy something brand new you are getting ripped off according to the definitions set, by people in this thread, for getting ripped off by GW.

I think Loki is right about gaming, you can buy a £1200 desktop computer which will be next to useless for gaming in a few years without more money spent on it. The way games are produced now days mean most have minimalreplayability, the most you can hope for is a good multiplayer community. Just like with GW the price has gone up over the years, imagine how many hours you get out of a game like Baldur's Gate 2 which was a "blockbuster" then compare it to a modern "hit" like MW3, you are getting a lot less for your money. Does anyone here game usign a computer who pays there own bills, has a job (basically isn't a child?) because they will soon tell you how expensive gaming can be.

Also a lot of people spend more than this on drugs, booze and fags in a year than most spend on warhammer in a year. But many young people view going out to the pub, or going clubbing, as a norm of society and worth spending money on. Personally I think it's gak getting gak faced and the pub every. single. night. and even worse going clubbing, standing in a room full of the type of people I hate, music I don't like, turned up so loud I can't talk to anyone, etc isn't my idea of fun. So I don't do it. Why don't the people who have such a problem with GW, for whatever reason, just stop buying it and stop visiting what is supposed to be Warhammer forum?

Of course if you look at GW in a bubble they are evil corporate bad guys who are just out to steal your money. Well they are of course, but try doing all this research and calculations about more than just game companies and you will see that what GW does is common business practice for a lot of large companies. I don't know why people are surprised that small business offer better community support, customer service and prices, it's because they can't afford to take the sales drop that GW can when they make a bad deceison,they have less players to please and companies are often more passionate about whatever their field is when they start out. Is it really THAT surprising?

I've only just returned to the hobby but all this sounds like common sense to me.

P.S Anyone who owns an iPhone and is complaining about GW prices are funny. Do some reaseach into how much they cost Apple.

I understand completely what you mean ReturningPlayer, but I guess it comes down to what the perceived value of something is, and that is going to be different for each of us.
If people in Aus can afford to pay those prices, and feel comfortable doing so, then all power to them.

Again this is a personal thing, but I would find it far easier to justify money spent on the above examples. Even video games, I remember as a child waiting for a new NES game for xmas which cost more than $70, if you want to go with that example. Perhaps the reason being that is something which is an 'accepted value' of such an item, and was the same throughout the industry (even though looking back on it now I shudder to think how I managed to get so much enjoyment from it! ) You could say the same thing for any other industry, generally there is some form of parity across prices - customers expect to pay a certain amount for something - be it cars, computers, bicycles, whatever.

Regarding GW, perhaps it's because I remember a time when prices were so much cheaper, and the fact that rival companies are selling products at a fraction of the price, but I find it hard to swallow GW's current pricing strategy and I question how much damage it will cause to the long-term health of the miniature and wargaming industry. That's possibly why you get new users to the forum occassionally going mental in these threads - they can't wrap their heads around the fact that GW's stuff costs so much more, and so they turn instead to saying that the product is somehow superior - 'it's better quality' or some other unquantifiable measurement, which usually results in a reply of someone posting that picture of the Razorgore saying "I'm a Porsche"
Or it just turns into resentful sniping of other manufacturers, 'knock offs', and attempts to belittle them as somehow something inherently less because it is lacking the 'Citadel Finecast' tag.

The problem is, marking a product as being inherently superior (or perhaps as the only option to the consumer) only works if you can go some of the way towards it being factual, and there is no doubt that the QC issues of Finecast, as well as perennial price increases and the rising popularity of much cheaper rivals (to speak nothing of 'quality') has gone some way to popping that bubble. I think the popularity of buying from ebay, bits sites, internet vendors, and indeed the rise and rise of GWs rivals shows that perhaps I am not alone in thinking this.

If GW was alone within the wargaming market, and there was some kind of price stabilization in line with inflation even for a couple of years, then perhaps there would not be so many people complaining about it.

Pacific wrote:The problem is, marking a product as being inherently superior (or perhaps as the only option to the consumer) only works if you can go some of the way towards it being factual, and there is no doubt that the QC issues of Finecast, as well as perennial price increases and the rising popularity of much cheaper rivals (to speak nothing of 'quality') has gone some way to popping that bubble. I think the popularity of buying from ebay, bits sites, internet vendors, and indeed the rise and rise of GWs rivals shows that perhaps I am not alone in thinking this.

Finecast aside (even as someone who likes it, I wish they'd sort out their casting issues), price and quality is all over the map in this industry, so it seems pretty tough actually saying one company does it better, though GW obviously does it the worst. GW prices high. Privateer Press prices pretty high too, in some cases the same as GW (their metal cavalry pushed Blood Knight pricing). GW's saving grace is they make the only large multipart plastic kits, and they do it really well. Corvus Belli prices pretty low and has models surpassing PP and GW. Mantic prices really low, but their quality is like poop from a butt.

When I see any of GW's competitors get into large multipart plastic kit manufacturing, which is far, far more difficult and expensive than making single pose metals or single pose plastics, I'll start looking a bit more seriously at pricing differences.

I agree that Privateer Press is also getting a bit too expensive. Is it really an unavoidable consequence of the game getting big, and executives getting greedy? Out of interest, are PP privately owned or a company with shares?

It will be interesting to see if Mantic can get off the ground and how much of an impact that they can make. Although the skirmish game market seems to have exploded, they are the only sci-fi/fantasy maker who are taking GW on with larger scale battles.

PP is privately owned and have stated that they’ll never go public.

To an extent I agree that their costs are high although I’ve found this to be solely with their metal kits (their metal kit prices are similar to GW). Their plastic kits (especially the plastic battle boxes) and blister packs are priced very well though. To be fair though, you need less PP purchases to build an army or change up a list. A 25-35pt list will normally set you back between $100-200.

PP is eventually aiming to move most of their core range to plastic. Whenever PP moves a product to plastic, the price is normally dramatically reduced (the plastic khador units released last year are a good example of this). Hopefully Bane Thralls and Trollbloods units get plastic kits as these are probably one of the more expensive and popular kits that PP sells.

When I read how much Aussies had to pay I facepalmed so hard my dog looked at me in Bewilderment.

candy.man wrote:To be fair though, you need less PP purchases to build an army or change up a list.

Shouldn't make difference at all. People sing praises for Corvus Bellis Infinity pricing (and I agree completely with it). I was overjoyed when I bought a metal Hassassin Fiday for $12au. And you only need about 10 models for that game.

Asherian Command wrote:When I read how much Aussies had to pay I facepalmed so hard my dog looked at me in Bewilderment.

Now if even half of the GW fans / white knights knows the price discrepancies they probably wouldn't defend GW

candy.man wrote:
PP is eventually aiming to move most of their core range to plastic. Whenever PP moves a product to plastic, the price is normally dramatically reduced (the plastic khador units released last year are a good example of this). Hopefully Bane Thralls and Trollbloods units get plastic kits as these are probably one of the more expensive and popular kits that PP sells.

Another good example is the plastic Exemplar Errants that were recently announced. A full unit in metal is $68 at rrp (6 figure box + 2 blisters). The new plastic set is $50, with a full unit of 10 miniatures included.

Oh, and the other plastic Menoth infantry kit (C'mon, PP! Give us some plastic Bane Thralls!), Knights Exemplars. Metal at $40, plastic at $35. Both 6 minis.

Now, if I remember correctly, Warjack/Warbeast prices tend to go up when they move from metal to plastic, but I believe that's because they include the arms/weapons/heads for the different jacks/beasts based on that chassis. A quick magnetizing job, and you've got 3 choices from 1 kit.

infinite_array wrote:
Now, if I remember correctly, Warjack/Warbeast prices tend to go up when they move from metal to plastic, but I believe that's because they include the arms/weapons/heads for the different jacks/beasts based on that chassis. A quick magnetizing job, and you've got 3 choices from 1 kit.

They don't. They seem more expensive because PP doesn't updates its prices on older warnouns so the plastic ones, while a bit more expensive then the older metal kits, are allot cheaper than the newer metal warnouns that they replace. You can compare the prices of the metal and plastic warbeasts to prove this if you like.

-Loki- wrote:

LunaHound wrote:

-Loki- wrote:

I said 1 game every 6 months. As in a video game.

Sowwy i read wrong. But $10,000 of video games in 4 years is sort of impossible no?

Remember, I'm Australian - whatever you pay across the pond, double it over here. I paid nearly $4000au on just the systems (my PC nearly cost me $2000au (yes, at the time, it was a fething sweet rig), my first PS3 was nearly $800au). Average games were $80au each (I buy pretty much release day, and I dislike trading in games), at least 25 for each system. Beleive me, $10,000au is a conservative figure.

What you're comparing is how much it costs for you alone to get enjoyment out of one or the other. Obviously you're better off playing 40k so long as you don't treat it like you do video games. If you had to have that many different tabletop systems with at least 25 armies for each system (because you can't stay with one for more than two weeks), and forgeworld models for 40k (because you'd rather a "sweet rig" than the bare minimum required to play), I'm pretty sure it would be a lot more than $10k. Likewise, if you treated video games the other way around, you'd probably find that they wouldn't cost nearly $10k. A fair comparison simply can't be made unless you look at both under the same philosophy.

Holdenstein wrote:

Superscope wrote:If people want to know the true insanity of GW's prices, i'll give you a strong explaination of detail.

I'm a Australian (proud of it) and i'm a wargamer. It is extremely hard to justify the prices here in the land down under. First, lets take a look at the current AUD dollar to the two biggest wargamer countries in the world. This vaules are from the 27/1/2012

British Pound is worth $0.68 AUD
United States dollar is worth $1.06 AUD

So lets see how much in each country would a box of... oh... Vampire Count Blood Knights go for from the GW's main website.


British price of the unit - $61.50 GBP, equaling $90.99 AUD
US price of the unit - $99.00 USD, equaling $93.26 AUD
Australian price of the unit - $165.00 AUD!

So from shipping from england / united states... you pay a additional 74.01 / 71.74 dollars. No tax nor shipping costs should add such a massive price increase over other countries. How would other countries wargamers cope if they had to buy at AUD prices?

England would have to pay 111.52 GBP
The US would pay 175.15 USD (i'll like to see US sales of this item if they were charged at this price)

This is pretty much price fixing and i'm amazed GW isn't watched and reported by the market watchdog. How do they get away with it? Nintendo did price fixing in the past in 2002, towards europe, and were fined 149 Million euros for price fixing.

Which totally fails to acknowledge that between a tow thirds and three quarters of retail costs are generated in the country in which the item is sold.

Bear with us in the UK. As soon as we manage to sort out the Eurozone crisis, avoid a double dip recession, manage to grow our economy by more than a single percentage point, slow down the growth in unemployment, end the credit squeeze and return the housing market to growth then the pound will strengthen and although you'll be paying exactly the same number of Aussie Dollars that you have been paying all along, you'll feel better about it.

Thanks for highlighting exactly how much of a crappy time we are having in the UK, while making it about how much you might have to pay for a piece of plastic resin that you might not really want in the first place. Next time someone tells you they have cancer why not try to make them feel better by comparing it to the dilemma that you have over whether to get 3D on your 50" plasma or not.

The price difference has nothing to do with the European Financial Troubles, so WTF BRING IT UP? It has no bearing on the topic as GW pricing has been this way for years. They don't price with regards to global financial troubles.

Our strong economy has merely served to highlight the ridiculous price gap that has been around for many many years

Cadorius wrote:

-Loki- wrote:

LunaHound wrote:

-Loki- wrote:

I said 1 game every 6 months. As in a video game.

Sowwy i read wrong. But $10,000 of video games in 4 years is sort of impossible no?

Remember, I'm Australian - whatever you pay across the pond, double it over here. I paid nearly $4000au on just the systems (my PC nearly cost me $2000au (yes, at the time, it was a fething sweet rig), my first PS3 was nearly $800au). Average games were $80au each (I buy pretty much release day, and I dislike trading in games), at least 25 for each system. Beleive me, $10,000au is a conservative figure.

What you're comparing is how much it costs for you alone to get enjoyment out of one or the other. Obviously you're better off playing 40k so long as you don't treat it like you do video games. If you had to have that many different tabletop systems with at least 25 armies for each system (because you can't stay with one for more than two weeks), and forgeworld models for 40k (because you'd rather a "sweet rig" than the bare minimum required to play), I'm pretty sure it would be a lot more than $10k. Likewise, if you treated video games the other way around, you'd probably find that they wouldn't cost nearly $10k. A fair comparison simply can't be made unless you look at both under the same philosophy.

Agreed.

And what 25 Wii games could you possibly buy?

ChocolateGork wrote:

Holdenstein wrote:

Superscope wrote:

British Pound is worth $0.68 AUD
United States dollar is worth $1.06 AUD
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Which totally fails to acknowledge that between a tow thirds and three quarters of retail costs are generated in the country in which the item is sold.

Bear with us in the UK. As soon as we manage to sort out the Eurozone crisis, avoid a double dip recession, manage to grow our economy by more than a single percentage point, slow down the growth in unemployment, end the credit squeeze and return the housing market to growth then the pound will strengthen and although you'll be paying exactly the same number of Aussie Dollars that you have been paying all along, you'll feel better about it.

Thanks for highlighting exactly how much of a crappy time we are having in the UK, while making it about how much you might have to pay for a piece of plastic resin that you might not really want in the first place. Next time someone tells you they have cancer why not try to make them feel better by comparing it to the dilemma that you have over whether to get 3D on your 50" plasma or not.

The price difference has nothing to do with the European Financial Troubles, so WTF BRING IT UP? It has no bearing on the topic as GW pricing has been this way for years. They don't price with regards to global financial troubles.

Our strong economy has merely served to highlight the ridiculous price gap that has been around for many many years
?

The current price difference has everything to do with the current financial troubles in the UK and Europe. If the Pound and Euro weren't currently circling around the toilet bowl then the massive price differentials that you see wouldn't exist. The entire original comparison (which conveniently ignores local distribution and retail costs) is based on it, and by and large those increases in prices only come to light when you do that sort of analysis. The AUD prices have only gone up by the same as the rest of the world since 2008.

Back in the late nineties, when the UK dodged a global recession things were good here and the pound was strong. The result was that we ended up paying approximately double for computer games over here than they were paying in the US. My advice is to enjoy your strong currency rather than moan about it. If history repeats itself than in 10 years time you're in for a heck of a recession.

Watched an interview with Dennis Potter last night (English playwright who has been dead for some years), and he came out with an interesting quote: "A lack of nostalgia is in some ways an acceptance of the orthodoxy of the present."

Anyway..

DoctorCheese wrote:So for many years we've seen annual price raises of GW products during the middle of each year. (July, right?)
Do you guys think they'll have another one this year? I mean jesus christ, a box of 20 clanrats is going to end up costing 35€ in no time.
If there is another price raise, I'm seriously considering letting this hobby go completely.

My answer to DoctorCheese's question from a thread he opened (now closed): Does the pope gak in the woods?

UK inflation has been running at 4-5% at least during 2011 so for that reason alone, I'm sure there will be a price hike.

Then again, if inflation was zero or even negative, I'm sure there would be a price hike...

Asherian Command wrote:When I read how much Aussies had to pay I facepalmed so hard my dog looked at me in Bewilderment.

I get stuff from Blackcultist.com.au instead of GW.

filbert wrote:UK inflation has been running at 4-5% at least during 2011 so for that reason alone, I'm sure there will be a price hike.

Then again, if inflation was zero or even negative, I'm sure there would be a price hike...

The problem is, name one other company within the industry that has a perennial price rise?

We lament the situation of Australians, but really they are only a few years ahead of the curve.

Ninja price hike in Jan for LOTR, I supposed GW did it before the Feb WD issues xDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

No, we have internet we dont live in the stone age GW