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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/28 22:35:17
Subject: I wanted to say "entitled, self-important" below, but I won't. ;-)
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Sisters players. Through and through. Never have I encountered such a group of people in my life. Every Sisters player is the same.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/28 22:38:28
Subject: Which army has the most loyal fans?
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
On the Internet
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Sisters players. Through and through.
Never have I encountered such a group of people in my life. Every Sister player is the same.
EDIT: Caught onto the "joke". Yeah, real "cute" there. You sound like a bigot there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/28 22:43:15
Subject: Which army has the most loyal fans?
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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TheCustomLime wrote:Sisters of Battle. You can badmouth IG and barely anyone will complain. Say anything bad about the SoB? You'll have quite a few people on your case.
Ain't that the truth...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/28 22:46:29
Subject: Which army has the most loyal fans?
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Missionary On A Mission
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Troike wrote:
I've even heard tales of one person who attempted to drive a pipe organ straight out of a church. Thankfully, they didn't get very far on it.
me out.
Sorry my bad
Boy was my Pastor pissed
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Anvils Hammer wrote:
@MrFlutterPie - That's not currently a service we offer, but you can purchase quality miniatures from us..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/28 22:47:20
Subject: I wanted to say "entitled, self-important" below, but I won't. ;-)
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Sisters players. Through and through.
Never have I encountered such a group of people in my life. Every Sisters player is the same.
I see people still aren't gleaning the added elements provided by your altering the subject lines yet...
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BlaxicanX wrote:A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/28 22:47:33
Subject: Which army has the most loyal fans?
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
In Warp Transit to next battlefield location, Destination Unknown
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Even I am an IG fan, I would Ork fans are the most die hard fans.:
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Cowards will be shot! Survivors will be shot again!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/28 22:54:23
Subject: I wanted to say "entitled, self-important" below, but I won't. ;-)
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
On the Internet
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Eldarain wrote: H.B.M.C. wrote:Sisters players. Through and through.
Never have I encountered such a group of people in my life. Every Sisters player is the same.
I see people still aren't gleaning the added elements provided by your altering the subject lines yet...
Didn't notice he did that. Well that puts a sour spin on what could have been a much more jovial post. Hurray bigotry.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/28 22:55:54
Subject: I wanted to say "entitled, self-important" below, but I won't. ;-)
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Eldarain wrote:I see people still aren't gleaning the added elements provided by your altering the subject lines yet...
No one ever does, which is half the reason I do it. Call it an intelligence test.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/28 23:01:06
Subject: Which army has the most loyal fans?
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
On the Internet
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So this time you want to say "entitled, self-important" instead of what you posted in reply? Well I guess that could sum up your attitude here.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/28 23:09:00
Subject: Which army has the most loyal fans?
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Fixture of Dakka
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I'd say Chaos Space Marine players and Dark Angle players. Yes alot of them have been abandoned, but those who stay and still play them is proof they play for the love of the army instead of winning.
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Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong". |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/28 23:14:02
Subject: Which army has the most loyal fans?
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Hey look everyone – a Sisters player is getting up in arms because someone said literally anything negative about Sisters. This is a great case of life imitating… life.
Anyway, as I said, and as others have been saying since the first page of this thread, this is something that I have observed in Sisters players and no other group. I can’t think of any group in the 40K fandom that so quickly jumps into defend their beloved Sisters or attack anyone who dares say anything negative. I mean, the Eternal Crusade thread in the video games forum very quickly turned into the Melissia Show with her badgering the poor dev and all but demanding that they add Sisters into the game, and a disproportionate amount of time was spent on that subject.
And I choose the word “disproportionate” very carefully, because that’s what Sister player outrage is, especially for such a small army that has always played a minor role in the game. Would it be nice if they were more fleshed out? Sure, but the last time (actually, every time) Sisters players have gotten anything, Sisters players just complain about that. “We don’t want to share our book with the Inquisition!”, “We want new models!” “We don’t like our new models!”, “We hate power corsets… but don’t change our models either!”, “We should have better than a WD Codex!”, and on and on it goes.
Yes, you should have better than a WD Codex and yes you should get new models (wonderfully detailed multi-part plastics with some different hairstyles for a change), but there are other armies that are in the same boat (Wood Elves anyone?) and I’ve yet to see someone diving in to defend the woodland kin as much as I have people martyring themselves before the altar of the Sisters of Battle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/28 23:24:16
Subject: Which army has the most loyal fans?
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Nurgle Veteran Marine with the Flu
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I agree with H.B.M.C 100%
On a side note I wish that SoB would be combined with Grey Knights to form an Inquisitorial codex, it would mean less codexes in the pipeline.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/28 23:24:43
Subject: Which army has the most loyal fans?
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Preacher of the Emperor
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Hey look everyone – a Sisters player is getting up in arms because someone said literally anything negative about Sisters.
So... You're criticising something that somebody likes, and then acting like they're in the wrong when they react to your criticism? You came into this thread calling all SoB fans "the same". Of course people were going to react negatively to that. Edit: Ah, only just noticed your subject thing above your post. Yeah, you must have known that would get a negative reaciton, so you can't really complain when people go against it.
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Order of the Righteous Armour - 542 points so far. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/28 23:28:31
Subject: Which army has the most loyal fans?
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
On the Internet
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Hey look everyone – a Sisters player is getting up in arms because someone said literally anything negative about Sisters. This is a great case of life imitating… life. 
Actually your comment wasn't about Sisters, the army, your comment was a slight at the players. I was just turning the tables because you'd left the changed subject in your message and it did sum up the attitude you where giving off. No one likes to be insulted because of the army they play and to lump everyone into one group like that was frankly ridiculious and relied more on stereotyping than anything else.
H.B.M.C. wrote:Anyway, as I said, and as others have been saying since the first page of this thread, this is something that I have observed in Sisters players and no other group. I can’t think of any group in the 40K fandom that so quickly jumps into defend their beloved Sisters or attack anyone who dares say anything negative. I mean, the Eternal Crusade thread in the video games forum very quickly turned into the Melissia Show with her badgering the poor dev and all but demanding that they add Sisters into the game, and a disproportionate amount of time was spent on that subject.
I actually try to stay out of the big Sisters debates when I can. If I get involved I only aim to correct actual errors of fact (such as getting rules wrong). I play Sisters and yet I don't like to get involved in such events because it's not who I am. I respect not everyone likes the things I like and I don't go brow-beating it into people. Heck I even joked about the fanaticsm that can be shown on the previous page. I was more disappointed that you'd categorized every single person of a group like that. I expected more from you I guess.
H.B.M.C. wrote:And I choose the word “disproportionate” very carefully, because that’s what Sister player outrage is, especially for such a small army that has always played a minor role in the game. Would it be nice if they were more fleshed out? Sure, but the last time (actually, every time) Sisters players have gotten anything, Sisters players just complain about that. “We don’t want to share our book with the Inquisition!”, “We want new models!” “We don’t like our new models!”, “We hate power corsets… but don’t change our models either!”, “We should have better than a WD Codex!”, and on and on it goes.
I don't like the Inquisition with the Sisters it's true, but I'm not going to rage if it happens, I'll just do what I did with C: WH and not play the Inquisition side of things. You're generalizing an entire player base of one army unfairly. Some of us are more fanatical than others, but that doesn't mean everyone is.
H.B.M.C. wrote:Yes, you should have better than a WD Codex and yes you should get new models (wonderfully detailed multi-part plastics with some different hairstyles for a change), but there are other armies that are in the same boat (Wood Elves anyone?) and I’ve yet to see someone diving in to defend the woodland kin as much as I have people martyring themselves before the altar of the Sisters of Battle.
And I've yet to see "every single Sisters player" act like you describe. Sure we have some, but so does every army. It's just easier to spot ours because there are so few others who play the army. That said, generalizations and stereotypes don't make a sound argument. They make you look like a bigot who just hates people who like something he doesn't. I'm not claiming you are, but it's hard to see your opinion as one that is tainted by prejudice against people who play the army regardless of what they actually say or do.
In fact your original post, which I originally took in good fun has an air of bait about it (now that I see the whole message you so "cleverly" hid there) that says "FLAME ME SO I CAN BE RIGHT". Well I'm not. I'm disappointed in you, but I won't flame you just to give you the satisfaction of martyring yourself on the altar of "All Sisters Players are Twits".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/28 23:34:30
Subject: Which army has the most loyal fans?
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Deathwing Terminator with Assault Cannon
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namiel wrote: Wardragoon wrote:
On a off topic note: I find it quiteodd that GW cut BT but kept DA, heck most DA players pretty well agree that they could go into C: SM and be perfectly fine[
VERY WRONG.
Fixed that for you, heck I was partially hoping when 6e came out Dark Angels would become C: SM as was another DA player I know (and several on here).....if nothing else I think Dark Angel players may be the least loyal to the army considering how many picked up C: SM to play them during 5th (and really that right there should tell you something, GK didnt do that, heck I didnt even hear of BA doing that during their codex drought, same with Space Wolves, or BT)
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DA 4000 points W/L/D 6e 3/2/0
IG 1500 points W/L/D 6e 0/2/0
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/28 23:41:57
Subject: Which army has the most loyal fans?
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Preacher of the Emperor
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MetalOxide wrote:On a side note I wish that SoB would be combined with Grey Knights to form an Inquisitorial codex, it would mean less codexes in the pipeline.
I doubt that'll happen. If that was the plan, then the recent Digital Codex, which was Sisters only, would have been rather pointless.
And, as has been discussed before (you may not have seen it), it would be kinda awkward to just mush two armies together like that. That's a two whole armies worth of units that need to work together in one codex, and three factions that need fluff and artwork representation within one book. Would be a bit of a clusterfeth, really.
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Order of the Righteous Armour - 542 points so far. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/28 23:47:39
Subject: Which army has the most loyal fans?
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Nurgle Veteran Marine with the Flu
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Troike wrote: MetalOxide wrote:On a side note I wish that SoB would be combined with Grey Knights to form an Inquisitorial codex, it would mean less codexes in the pipeline.
I doubt that'll happen. If that was the plan, then the recent Digital Codex, which was Sisters only, would have been rather pointless.
And, as has been discussed before (you may not have seen it), it would be kinda awkward to just mush two armies together like that. That's a two whole armies worth of units that need to work together in one codex, and three factions that need fluff and artwork representation within one book. Would be a bit of a clusterfeth, really.
They have done it before with Daemons and Chaos Marines, they can do it again.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/28 23:54:37
Subject: Which army has the most loyal fans?
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Preacher of the Emperor
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MetalOxide wrote:They have done it before with Daemons and Chaos Marines, they can do it again.
But that was a splitting of one army into two, not a merger of two armies into one as you're suggesting.
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Order of the Righteous Armour - 542 points so far. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/28 23:57:45
Subject: Which army has the most loyal fans?
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Deathwing Terminator with Assault Cannon
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Troike wrote:
And, as has been discussed before (you may not have seen it), it would be kinda awkward to just mush two armies together like that. That's a two whole armies worth of units that need to work together in one codex, and three factions that need fluff and artwork representation within one book. Would be a bit of a clusterfeth, really.
You can mesh two armies together without awkwardness (looks at rage about BT going into C: SM) NEVERMIND!
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DA 4000 points W/L/D 6e 3/2/0
IG 1500 points W/L/D 6e 0/2/0
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/28 23:59:53
Subject: Which army has the most loyal fans?
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Perfect Shot Black Templar Predator Pilot
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Hey look everyone – a Sisters player is getting up in arms because someone said literally anything negative about Sisters. This is a great case of life imitating… life.
Anyway, as I said, and as others have been saying since the first page of this thread, this is something that I have observed in Sisters players and no other group. I can’t think of any group in the 40K fandom that so quickly jumps into defend their beloved Sisters or attack anyone who dares say anything negative. I mean, the Eternal Crusade thread in the video games forum very quickly turned into the Melissia Show with her badgering the poor dev and all but demanding that they add Sisters into the game, and a disproportionate amount of time was spent on that subject.
And I choose the word “disproportionate” very carefully, because that’s what Sister player outrage is, especially for such a small army that has always played a minor role in the game. Would it be nice if they were more fleshed out? Sure, but the last time (actually, every time) Sisters players have gotten anything, Sisters players just complain about that. “We don’t want to share our book with the Inquisition!”, “We want new models!” “We don’t like our new models!”, “We hate power corsets… but don’t change our models either!”, “We should have better than a WD Codex!”, and on and on it goes.
Yes, you should have better than a WD Codex and yes you should get new models (wonderfully detailed multi-part plastics with some different hairstyles for a change), but there are other armies that are in the same boat (Wood Elves anyone?) and I’ve yet to see someone diving in to defend the woodland kin as much as I have people martyring themselves before the altar of the Sisters of Battle.
Amen to that
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/29 00:00:36
Subject: Which army has the most loyal fans?
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Heroic Senior Officer
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/29 00:09:51
Subject: Which army has the most loyal fans?
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
On the Internet
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I'm so glad my well reasoned and sound reply regarding stereotypes and how not every Sisters player is like that is so quickly ignored in favor of helping the martyr climb onto his cross.
I guess we only accept the versions of reality that fit what we believe and no more.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/29 00:13:23
Subject: Which army has the most loyal fans?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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ClockworkZion wrote:
I'm so glad my well reasoned and sound reply regarding stereotypes and how not every Sisters player is like that is so quickly ignored in favor of helping the martyr climb onto his cross.
I guess we only accept the versions of reality that fit what we believe and no more.
That's pretty much the norm for Dakka. I've stopped trying to argue with them and just started ignoring them, a wonderful tool that saves all sorts of trouble down the road. It's the internet, few are willing to ever change their opinions and, besides, it's like my own online heretic-burning, I get to consign them to the flames of oblivion.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/29 00:21:06
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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ClockworkZion wrote: Actually your comment wasn't about Sisters, the army, your comment was a slight at the players. I was just turning the tables because you'd left the changed subject in your message and it did sum up the attitude you where giving off. No one likes to be insulted because of the army they play and to lump everyone into one group like that was frankly ridiculious and relied more on stereotyping than anything else. You’re right, no one likes to be insulted because of the army they like, but this is the one area where I actually draw a line. Everywhere I’ve been since I got involved in the internet side of 40K (way back before ‘forums’ were really a thing and when people use guestbooks as forums) Sisters players have always struck me in this manner. Now I hate the Tau with the fury of both a thousand suns and a Thousand Sons. I want every Tau in the galaxy to curl up and die (presuming they don’t let my troops kill them first), but I’d never attack someone for playing Tau (hell I even have a Tau force myself). But with Sisters it’s the opposite. I like the Sisters. I think they’re an interesting force. What I don’t like are their players, who, as many here can attest, jump to defend/attack at the slightest provocation. Yes there are always exceptions and yes my comments are hyperbolic in nature (Sisters players are not a Hive Mind after all, despite their repeated attempts to convince me otherwise), but come on man – you realise you’re doing exactly what I’m talking about? I say “Sisters players are the most loyal. They’re fanatical to the point of being self-obsessed and extremely entitled despite the minor role their chosen army plays in the grand scheme of things*”, and immediately I have two Sisters players jumping to refute that… and in that action they prove my criticism to be 100% on the money! As I said, life imitating life! You have to at least appreciate the irony of that? *No matter how much bigger you, I or anyone might want that role to be. ClockworkZion wrote:I actually try to stay out of the big Sisters debates when I can. If I get involved I only aim to correct actual errors of fact (such as getting rules wrong). I play Sisters and yet I don't like to get involved in such events because it's not who I am. I respect not everyone likes the things I like and I don't go brow-beating it into people. Heck I even joked about the fanaticsm that can be shown on the previous page. I was more disappointed that you'd categorized every single person of a group like that. I expected more from you I guess. I’m not normally like this, but as I said, Sisters players are a special case because I’ve encountered so many in multiple places that are all like this. ClockworkZion wrote:I don't like the Inquisition with the Sisters it's true, but I'm not going to rage if it happens, I'll just do what I did with C: WH and not play the Inquisition side of things. You're generalizing an entire player base of one army unfairly. Some of us are more fanatical than others, but that doesn't mean everyone is. I am generalising, but I don’t think I’m doing it unfairly. I mean there's even a mod here who's a Sisters player and he doesn't act the way I'm describing at all. But look at it from the other side. When the Witch Hunters Codex went bye bye we had our usual suspects (they know who they are) celebrating the end of Inquisitorial units. Well… I had a Witch Hunter army without any Sisters. I was losing an army (as I did when Daemonhunters went the way of the Squats), yet all I saw was “Finally we’re free!” comments and got yelled at for having the temerity to wish that a Sisters Codex didn’t mean invalidating yet another army of mine. Oh, and by the way, all those people celebrating the end of Witch Hunters then went on to complain about the Codex they did get, thus fulfilling the prophesy that Sisters players can never be happy about anything ever. ClockworkZion wrote:In fact your original post, which I originally took in good fun has an air of bait about it (now that I see the whole message you so "cleverly" hid there) that says "FLAME ME SO I CAN BE RIGHT". Well I'm not. I'm disappointed in you, but I won't flame you just to give you the satisfaction of martyring yourself on the altar of "All Sisters Players are Twits".  I wouldn’t say using the subject line is “clever”. I just think it’s fun to see who’s paying attention, but that’s neither here nor there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/29 00:28:51
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ClockworkZion wrote: H.B.M.C. wrote:Sisters players. Through and through. Never have I encountered such a group of people in my life. Every Sister player is the same.
EDIT: Caught onto the "joke". Yeah, real "cute" there. You sound like a bigot there. Y'know, you weren't supposed to prove HBMC right, you're supposed to prove him wrong. "You're a bigot!" "Sexist!" "Misogynistic!" What next? It's the same white-knight crap time after time, though it never stops being amusing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/29 00:31:22
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/29 00:31:56
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Psienesis wrote:
I've stopped trying to argue with them and just started ignoring them, a wonderful tool that saves all sorts of trouble down the road. It's the internet, few are willing to ever change their opinions
Now there is some damn fine advice for using the internet
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Anvils Hammer wrote:
@MrFlutterPie - That's not currently a service we offer, but you can purchase quality miniatures from us..
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Clearly you've never tried them. They are rather tasty when roasted and served with a white wine sauce.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/29 00:37:59
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Perfect Shot Ultramarine Predator Pilot
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I think; SoB (zealous fandom yadda yadda), Orks (cuz orks are cool), DA (cuz some peeps still play them), Ultra's (cuz we all devotedly follow the codex astartes). In that order.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/29 00:38:11
Subject: Re:Which army has the most loyal fans?
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Hellacious Havoc
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Chaos Space Marines. No matter how many times they beat our codex down, we keep buying them.
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