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Getting a friend into the hobby who then buys all the stuff, can't be bothered to learn the fluff as its "boring", creates his own rules, knows nothing about the game but thinks he knows everything, and gets new models and codexes regularly because he is minted…whilst he whines.

And you've been wargaming 4 years before him.

carmachu wrote:
Other people's expectations in the hobby being projected onto you. Everyone comes into it differently. But not everyone wants to play. Or convert models. Or Paint. To each their own.

This wins the thread for me.

I'm so tired of the threads where pro-comp people debate with anti-comp people. Or, the threads where people deride other players who play with armies that aren't completely painted. Or the hard-list vs fluffy list debates.

I've never understood why the majority of gamers can't seem to accept the fact that the hobby of tabletop wargaming is big enough to have appeal to different people over a wide range of different aspects, and everyone doesn't have to equally like the same aspects as each other.

How about no matter how much time you spend cleaning the mini, once you've primed and started painting you find a mold line you missed.

All the WAAC gitz

 Pacific wrote:

Ugavine wrote:The constant moaning about prices

What about, if prices were a bit more reasonable, people would have less to moan about? Take a look at the Corvus Belli, Malifaux, Warlord or other any forum you care to mention, and their lack of comments about pricing to see what I mean.

Something to think about...

What about if I find the prices reasonable.

Other compaines? No argument there because I play those too. Played Bolt Action tonight. Different games, different prices. Still don't see the issue.

Tournaments that neither score nor require painting.

C'mon if I wanted to play with unpainted models I would be at a chess tournament.

First and foremost, not having time for gaming.

Second, assembly and mold line cleaning. I especially hate having to pin large metal models. I've pretty much given up on Privateer Press games, despite enjoying them, because of all the ginormous metal models that break, chip and variously depress me.

I'm voting for those guys that "almost cheat" the power gamers / rules nobs that ruin your gaming evening. It's meant to be fun and enjoyable not hard work and annoying.

Luckily we got rid of most of those types at our gaming group but I still can't stand them!!!

Unpainted armies are the other.... make some effort - at least fully assemble and spray them

People who post 'what's the most annoying aspect of the hobby?' topics on Dakka Dakka. Also the other players.

For me it is cleaning up mould lines.

Nothing else comes remotely close in the annoying stakes.

Well maybe super gluing my fingers together but that doesn't happen much anymore

 Kimchi Gamer wrote:
People who post 'what's the most annoying aspect of the hobby?' topics on Dakka Dakka. Also the other players.

Please, share more of your clever quips and social commentary.

 SoulDrinker wrote:
I'm voting for those guys that "almost cheat" the power gamers / rules nobs that ruin your gaming evening. It's meant to be fun and enjoyable not hard work and annoying.

Luckily we got rid of most of those types at our gaming group but I still can't stand them!!!

Unpainted armies are the other.... make some effort - at least fully assemble and spray them

Agree with both of these!

The caveat I would add is unpainted (sometimes unassembled) armies that have been that way for long periods of time, and the person obviously has no intention of doing any more work with them. I also find that the owners of these armies tend to be less careful with the physical use of the miniatures - thinking of an occassion where one of the older metal dreadnoughts, with no arms, rolled down a hill and crushed a newly converted and painted assault squad. "Oops, sorry mate. Anyway yes this is moving here and shooting at... " - meanwhile several of the squad have been left with broken weapons and arms

My big one is more a gripe with "gamer culture" in general. I've seen it work its way into my gaming group and it makes me see red. I've encountered racism, sexism, and bullying amongst people who are usually "othered" on a regular basis.

I didn't realize how bad the 4chan "yr mom" think had gotten until it seaped into a casual game of Monsterpocalypse recently (yes, we dusted it off and played, and it was awesome).

This guy just kept going ON AND ON about how his monster was going to "rape face", and I later heard that the "rape train" only has one setting and no brakes. When I think about the startling number of women who've been the victims of sexual assault, I'm not surprised to hear that few girls are in this hobby. That would be a major trigger if someone talked about forcing themselves on you.

Like I said, this is more a gripe with gaming culture, but it definitely has ruined a game or two for me.


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Oh, and mold lines.

The most annoying aspect of the hobby is when you drop a bit and try and catch it with your legs and crush your nards in the process.

1. Finecast
2. Bubbles
3. Mold lines

The ones who only play with their freinds on Open Game Nights.
Those who crush Fluffy Armys with their WAAC List and then brag about it for weeks.
Being Called a Band Wagon player with an army you have been playing for 20 years.
Being Callw WAAC for playing the same army you have for over 20 years, before you have even unpacked yet.
The Same Unpainted Armies, Week, After Week, After Week.

 melkorthetonedeaf wrote:

This guy just kept going ON AND ON about how his monster was going to "rape face", and I later heard that the "rape train" only has one setting and no brakes. When I think about the startling number of women who've been the victims of sexual assault, I'm not surprised to hear that few girls are in this hobby. That would be a major trigger if someone talked about forcing themselves on you.

Like I said, this is more a gripe with gaming culture, but it definitely has ruined a game or two for me.

He's a douche, not disputing that for a moment, but.....did you call him on it?

It's possible that several other people were uncomfortable but everyone was waiting for someone else to speak up first--or even that he never realised that anyone was offended by his choice of words. If everyone keeps quiet, you're telling him his language isn't a problem.

Yeah, I eventually did and found that several others agreed with me. It's cut down a bit, but it's still an aspect of gaming culture I could easily do without.

For me, it's the mix of amazement and depression when I see so many beautifully painted and converted models online and realise I will never come close to them, never attain the level of artistry I sit and wonder at.

I am something of a perfectionist, I paint, I convert and I sit and look at my minis and am sad that I cannot match, nor ever will, the wonderful works the internet has shown me.

Players who think everything must be painted to be on a table top and who whine about it. Some people don't like the way they paint and would rather have a bare or primed model on the table. I would rather basecoat a model and do a few details on it then spend hours painting it into a blobbish mess taking away from the model. I feel like that drives a lot of people away from the hobby because of snobs who stand up on a pedestal.

For me, having recently gotten back into the hobby, I've been reminded that my least favorite factor is actually making Army lists.

 melkorthetonedeaf wrote:
My big one is more a gripe with "gamer culture" in general. I've seen it work its way into my gaming group and it makes me see red. I've encountered racism, sexism, and bullying amongst people who are usually "othered" on a regular basis.

I didn't realize how bad the 4chan "yr mom" think had gotten until it seaped into a casual game of Monsterpocalypse recently (yes, we dusted it off and played, and it was awesome).

This guy just kept going ON AND ON about how his monster was going to "rape face", and I later heard that the "rape train" only has one setting and no brakes. When I think about the startling number of women who've been the victims of sexual assault, I'm not surprised to hear that few girls are in this hobby. That would be a major trigger if someone talked about forcing themselves on you.

Like I said, this is more a gripe with gaming culture, but it definitely has ruined a game or two for me.


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Oh, and mold lines.

Exalted. This, this and a thousand times this. It winds me up no end when I hear this kind of thing being tossed about. I am quick to say I do not like it, and often get odd looks and accused of being 'butthurt'.

But other than some of the 'banter' - stench in stores ranks (geddit) highly, as do some of the err, characters, you can bump into. Oh, and how paint always seems to chip off the models you are most proud of.

Never having enough time to finish the models I have on the shelf. Then I seem to go out and buy some more

Mold lines are easily 2nd on this list.

Im with WinterHound.
I have a bad habit of buying models while my painting line is already stacked up

Usually because ill run out of something and not bother buying it for a while, holding everything up. (currently PVA glue and more basing stuff holding my knight up and my eldar army)

Mould lines are a pain in the arse
Dont think ive met a single person that enjoys removing them to this day.

Last - Finecast.
I know its not a GW gripe thread, but the iron hands upgrade pack shifted to this from metal.
Metal was a quick wash and trim some spikes off raised areas, then good to go.

This stuff needs a heavy wash, trimming off the severe flash, removing the filling points from a model (15 on a wraith guard model i now know) then sandin any fuzzy areas, followed by GS filling on bubbles and gaps.

It turns what was a 20 minute job into an easy 5 hours depending on the quality of it.
Really not liking the change on this one

1)The way that my College seems determined to enroach onto my hobby time. More work is practically volley fired at me, leaving so little time to paint/model/etc.... I havnt had a game in over a month

2)The way that 1 is preventing me from finishing off my WIP scratch built Hive Fleet

3)My painting Backlog. I still cannot bring myself to face my Skaven

The endless complaining.

The complaining.

The majority of the fluff

The painting.

So in person I just put up with the guy who complains at our club as he is still fun to play with. On the internet it means war. I dont like most of the fluff unless its history wargaming. In which case I love it. And I hire people to paint everything except tanks because i can paint them very quickly with a spray can and detailing work haha.

I do love the games and terrain along with assembling models. Just the above annoys me.

The players The players the players. I would be willing to say 90% are awful excuses for people but I feel that way about almost everyone I have ever met.

The players who dont bathe are awful, the ones who cannot contain their flatulence or belching need to be escorted from any FLGS or Enclosed space and asked to not return.

I keep running into the same player locally and since i am so new to this particular shop (the local GW shop sadly) I dont wana be my usual self and tell him where to stick it and why, so I kinda tolerate it but try to bring as many players into the games he is apart of as possible to spot light his constant shenanigans, and blatant rules bending.

I never realized grabbin hits was a big issue, I am just a fast paced person. I do almost everything as quick as possible there is not a ton i will dedicate time to (ladies feel special)
and dice rolls has never struck me as a slow process, but now I will be sure to get an ok from my opponent when rolling.

I am mostly into the hobby for the building and painting aspect of it.
So…
1. The price, I like GW models but they are a bit steep now.
2. Doing away with pewter, I know why it happened but I love all the pewter models and will miss them.
3. Redoing of miniatures and making them look worse than the originals, IMO.
4. The shop I used to buy my paints at burnt down… Now I have to drive farther.
5. Accidently clipping myself with the hobby knife.

I forgot to mention: painting Allied vehicles for European theatres. The green... the endless dull green that must be applied before all the fancy detailing can be done