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Senior US military source tells NBC News that Erdogan, refused landing rights in Istanbul, is reported to be seeking asylum in Germany.
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) July 15, 2016
Report: Turkish military releases statement, saying armed forces have ‘fully seized control’ of the country.
— The Associated Press (@AP) July 15, 2016
Coming from a Turkish family, my folks and my brother are absolutely ecstatic over the news. They've been hating on Erdogan for years now. I'm really curious where this is going to go, hopefully all ends well. In the meantime I will count my lucky stars that my family came to Canada in time for me to be born here. God bless this wonderful country of maple syrup, beavers, and free health care!
reuters reports that a military helicopter opened fire in Istanbul. I hope it's just a short engagement with some very brave (and potentially very short-term-thinking) policemen...
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Witzkatz wrote: reuters reports that a military helicopter opened fire in Istanbul. I hope it's just a short engagement with some very brave (and potentially very short-term-thinking) policemen...
Lots of video of it. Looks like they were shooting at the HQ of MIT (Intel service) and also at police loyal to Erdogan.
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The thing is, 2 coups happened in Turkey before this attempt and the things about coups is you do it in INSTANT you !@#$ing raid houses of major government leaders and take them in your control and hold them in custody, and millitary is supposed to be working as a whole together to do it.
In this case, there is skirmishes in Millitary Headquarters which means its just a faction of Millitary group but not whole army (the army has been divided by Erodgan supporters and anti ones to two many years ago political view wise) and Erdogan being still free says that there is high chance of this coup failing.
AND if it fails, I hope that it does not, will make Erdogan even stronger.
Just saw video of a tank being mobbed by protesters. Very pleased with the discipline of the crew, looked like they tried very hard to avoid injuring civilians (though they did flatten a couple parked cars to get away from the mob).
Protestors climbed up on the tank and everything.
Every time a terrorist dies a Paratrooper gets his wings.
The thing is, 2 coups happened in Turkey before this attempt and the things about coups is you do it in INSTANT you !@#$ing raid houses of major government leaders and take them in your control and hold them in custody, and millitary is supposed to be working as a whole together to do it.
In this case, there is skirmishes in Millitary Headquarters which means its just a faction of Millitary group but not whole army (the army has been divided by Erodgan supporters and anti ones to two many years ago political view wise) and Erdogan being still free says that there is high chance of this coup failing.
AND if it fails, I hope that it does not, will make Erdogan even stronger.
That's really ensured that no matter what the result is, the people of Turkey lose. By demanding that they fight for their country and religion, Erdogan and his ilk have set two possibilities:
The military loses, and Erdogan doubles down on being a tyrannical see-you-next-tuesday as punishment.
The military wins, and you suddenly have a country split between the military and anti-Erdogan residents, and Erdogan plus ranks of people he whipped into fighting back, which reeks of impending civil war.
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JohnHwangDD wrote: It's really unfortunate that the military didn't do a better job of storming his vacation compound...
Depending on how he travels. That may have been bloody and still not worked
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Avatar 720 wrote: That's really ensured that no matter what the result is, the people of Turkey lose. By demanding that they fight for their country and religion, Erdogan and his ilk have set two possibilities:
The military loses, and Erdogan doubles down on being a tyrannical see-you-next-tuesday as punishment.
The military wins, and you suddenly have a country split between the military and anti-Erdogan residents, and Erdogan plus ranks of people he whipped into fighting back, which reeks of impending civil war.
This was the inevitable reaction to the coup. There is nothing else that could have happened. A lot of people voted for the AKP because they didn't want the military ruling them and some of those people are going to be very displeased with this development to put it mildly.
Richard Engel ✔ @RichardEngel
Erdogan from undisclosed location called on his supporters to take to the streets to defend him. Turkey coup
5:06 PM - 15 Jul 2016
Aaaand, the White House just couldn't help themselves:
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BREAKING: White House: Pres. Obama, Sec. Kerry agree that all parties in Turkey should support democratically-elected government of Turkey.
If the military wins they'll be dealing with either a civil war or fighting extremists. Turkey's been taking a blind eye to such group's movements for years, so there's bound to be a deal of them invested in the current regime.
From the West's perspective I'm wondering if we'd rather stick with a dictator who aids terrorists, or another Jihadi filled quagmire. I suppose it doesn't always go that way, but colour my cynical.
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Well, the military just seems to have dropped a bomb on the Turkish parliament building. They do not seem like they are going to back down.
Whether it will turn into a civil war or not really depends on how much of the military is still behind Erdogan. If the military is all behind the coup, there won't be much of a war. The military has all the weapons and equipment, it will only be a matter of time then before Erdogan and his supporters are in jail or dead. Of course, it could also end like it did in Russia where the common soldiers turned on their officers rather than shoot protesting civilians. So far however they do not seem to have any trouble shooting at protesters. On short term the outcome will be bad regardless of what happens. Long term? Who can say?
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Istanbul Police Chief says only 104 soldiers involved in #TurkeyCoup. Leader named as Col Muharrem Kose, recently dismissed as Gulen member.
*Only 104* soldiers?
EDIT: Nevermind... "fog of war" is in effect:
Drew McCoy @_Drew_McCoy_ 3m3 minutes ago
Here we go...coup soldiers are taking over CNN Turk in Istanbul.
Not over yet.
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Jon WilliamsVerified account
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Istanbul Police Chief says only 104 soldiers involved in #TurkeyCoup. Leader named as Col Muharrem Kose, recently dismissed as Gulen member.
*Only 104* soldiers?
EDIT: Nevermind... "fog of war" is in effect:
Drew McCoy @_Drew_McCoy_ 3m3 minutes ago
Here we go...coup soldiers are taking over CNN Turk in Istanbul.
Not over yet.
Had to have been a lot more then 104 soldiers. Saw a lot of pictures of armored vehicles, aircraft, etc... this had to have been in the thousands.
It's not just happening in Istanbul either. I doubt the Istanbul police chief can speak authoritatively on the status of the coup in the rest of the country. There hasn't been much footage from Ankara from what I've seen on CNN so far...a lot could be going on there.
Does anyone know if the ramifications of NATO take effect if Turkey has a civil war?
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