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The first one was an entertaining video game adaption, but not anything that looked tricky to follow up, the video game had plenty of lore to follow for a sequel they'd proved they could put together some decent fight sequences so surely they could do the same again
so I went into the sequel with some expectations, agil movie that could entertain for an hour and a half and then be forgotten, but oh boy was I guilty of expecting way to much
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Ohhh, man... Mortal Kombat Annihilation is truly, truly dire - but I can't call it disappointing. Not when its unique brand of garbage is *so damned entertaining*.
It's even got a worthy contender for the most hammed-up line in all of cinematic history:
"Hard pressed on my right. My centre is yielding. Impossible to manoeuvre. Situation excellent. I am attacking." - General Ferdinand Foch
MDSW wrote: OK, going to go back a ways... I will have to say that I am pretty easily entertained and can suspend belief for 'movie plots', but the one move I was sorely disappointed in while getting very amped up for was Spielberg's Raiders II Temple of Doom - good lord, truly disappointing...
Sweet chaos be praised!I've finally found someone who agrees with me that IJTOD stinks on ice!
On a totally different note it seems we have some bats in our belfry, or at least some Adam West fans on this thread.
For Adam West fans and just in time for halloween there's a very little known scifi horror movie he did called "Warp Speed" (A misnomer, there is no FTL or open connection to star trek)
A very low budget film from 1981 (and it shows) WS is about a spaceship that disappeared mysteriously some time ago that drifts back into earthspace (Don't expect a lot of actual science in this) with no one aboard. A psychic sensitive woman is sent aboard (Alone, of course ) to psychically read the ship and see what happened to the crew because no one left any records.
A grimdark movie before 40k made grimdark a thing. I suppose hardcore adam west fans might like it. It seems to feature something vaguely like a crude holodeck one crew member spends time in. Again, don't expect science or details here.
It's available on youtube as it seems no one bothered to maintain it's copyright.
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"But the universe is a big place, and whatever happens, you will not be missed..."
I'd have to go with Prometheus. I was expecting a worthy addition to the Alien franchise and unfortunately what we got was a crappy horror movie. Yes, yes, the first Alien movie was also a horror movie, but it was a good horror movie, not the crapfest that Prometheus was. I just did not enjoy that movie at all.
(Dis)honorable mention to The Predator. They absolutely yeeted that franchise straight into the crapper.
I will chime in on the Adam West subject and say that he is definitely my favorite Batman, followed by LEGO Batman Will Arnett. I love the 1960s TV series and movie of Batman; it may be campy, but it's the good kind of campy kind of like the original Star Trek. Personally I think that William Shatner and Adam West could have switched roles and both shows would have been exactly the same as they were.
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The first one was an entertaining video game adaption, but not anything that looked tricky to follow up, the video game had plenty of lore to follow for a sequel they'd proved they could put together some decent fight sequences so surely they could do the same again
so I went into the sequel with some expectations, agil movie that could entertain for an hour and a half and then be forgotten, but oh boy was I guilty of expecting way to much
insaniak wrote:Mortal Kombat 2 is my candidate for the 'Worst movie with the best soundtrack' award.
It's astounding how bad it was, after the first one.
It gave us Johnny Cage getting his neck snapped, so at least there's that.
That film has no redeeming qualities what so ever.
In my opinion of course.
Out of interest did you watch it in the cinema (IMAX etc?)
As an 'experience' I thought it was one of the best I have had at a cinema - up there with Gravity - and I haven't ever seen people coming out of the cinema and grinning like idiots in the same way before or since.
I saw a 3D version at a regular Hoyts in Australia. The story was pants and the 3d gimmick wore off in 5 minutes. Ever since then I've always opted to see the 2D version of a movie. Maybe it should've been 'IMAX only' - then I wouldn't have seen it! As an 'experience' I was glad when it was over. We certainly weren't grinning.
For me, the Avatar was the best 3D effect I've seen, and still is. Because the 3D effect was for depth instead of trying to cram things towards your face…
To be honest, I cannot really see the 3D effect at movies that well, exept for the stuff like in some volcano related movie where the sparks flying around was a really great effect.
Avatar gave the scenes depth and it looked great, especially the flying scenes. Since Avatar I haven't really seen any 3D movie that I felt the effect was worth the extra money you have to pay for it. If I have a choise of 2D and 3D, I choose 2D version every time.
Storywise, I don't get the universal hate Avatar seems to generate in people. Maybe people just don't like enviromental messages and have great unrequiting love for PMC's? I dunno, I thought the story was ok.
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More good news for the adam west fans who may have missed it. (OT but hey i like giving people here news they may like.)
His last two movie roles were voicing batman in the batman 66 animated movies "Batman return of the caped crusaders" and it's sequel "Batman vs. Two face"
These movies are faithful, respectful tributes to the 66 series and done it it's style. Starring adam west, burt ward and julie newmarr.
I've seen both and they're both actually good if you liked the original series.
I had precisely one gripe about these movies:
The penguin no longer had his trademark long cigarette holder and cigarette. Good god guys, can't you any-smoking fascists let anything go?!?! Can't you people give it a rest for one damn minute?!?!
The penguin was a bad guy, having him smoke would not be encouraging kids to smoke, especially if they had the penguin coughing badly once in a while. In fact having him smoke and near the end almost escape but suddenly stop from a coughing fit, letting batman grab him, then have bats tell him smoking is a terrible habit and he should take a stop smoking course while in prison would have been a more effective anti smoking message.
I'm not a fan of smoking or companies that make cigarettes but i am so sick of the anti smoking fanatics having to force themselves on everything they can.
Other than that these were very faithful to the original series, right down to chief O'Hara being an irish stereotype. (smoking is verbotten but ethnic stereotypes are ok. )
Oh, someone here mentioned William Shatner? He stars in the second movie as the voice of Two-Face.
As for avatar, maybe it gets ripped for being basically just dances with wolves and the last samurai redone. Or maybe because the movie was so totally predictable. I mean as soon as the main lead and the female na'vi meet you know they're going to boink and fall in love. You know her na'vi boyfriend is gonna die to get out of their way. You know he's going to save the na'vi. You know he permanently moves into his new body. It was a surprise free movie, almost as predictable as gravity.
The only criticism of avatar I will condemn was the idea it encouraged people to commit suicide as an escape from a bad situation, like being crippled. That was a bogus attack as there was a chance the guy could have his mind moved into his na'vi body so it was not actual suicide.
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"But the universe is a big place, and whatever happens, you will not be missed..."
I’ll stand up and be counted as an “I like Avatar” person. I don’t think it deserved to even be nominated for best picture, because it is just about every action-adventure stereotype and trope stitched together, but it’s got good performances from a great cast, well paced and edited and incredible visual design. The CGI is stunning, not just the 3D landscapes, but the mocap on the Na’avi is still some of the best character work ever done. There’s a bit at the end where Neytiri is holding human Jake in her arms and I have never been able to figure out how much of that is CG or green screen.
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I've never seen Blair Witch but my gods yes shaky cam films are a nightmare! Thankfully it mostly consigned itself to a group of horror films and they are not typically something I watch (I'm more of a Resident Evil type fan than a Blair Witch type fan when it comes to nasties and monsters)
Prometheus also comes to mind, although that was just disappointing.
I thought Dunkirk looked amazing, but it actually kinda sucked. Maybe if I had known a little more about the source material, but I went in knowing nothing.
I didn't like Dunkirk precisely because I knew the source material. It did not feel like a war movie - way too clean and the plot felt naive. It had cool individual scenes, fun structure and good soundscape but overall it didn't work for me.
Prometheus was a mega disappointment yeah.
League of Extraordinary Gentlemen - this was before I had read the comic. But the premise was so cool and then the movie was MEGA BAD.
Spectre. I was expecting this like nuts and it was very very mediocre even at its best. I constantly waited "no the awesomeness will begin any moment now" and then the movie was over and I was like "eh".
Kingdom of Heaven - this wasn't like actively bad or anything, I was just expecting a movie with political intrigue, great characters, personal soul-searching etc. But it was really simplistic with cardboard cutout characters and average battle scenes.
Gladiator - see above. Well this was okay movie actually, I was just expecting much more. I do think it is very overrated, but that's another topic.
The Hobbit. I am an enormous Tolkien and LOTR fan. had not liked Jackson's recent work but hoped he would be able to turn it around. He did not. Other two did not disappoint me because I fully expected them to suck.
Ambush. This is late 90's Finnish war movie. It was huge hit in the theatres and previews looked very good. So my expectations were high, this will take Finnish war movies into new millenia! And then it had super-stiff dialogue and Hollywoodized action scenes.
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trexmeyer wrote: I walked out of the first Hobbit movie. I've never attempted to watch it or any of the ones in the series again.
Oh you should totally see the other two Hobbit movies, they're MUCH MUCH worse than the first!
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Prometheus also comes to mind, although that was just disappointing.
I thought Dunkirk looked amazing, but it actually kinda sucked. Maybe if I had known a little more about the source material, but I went in knowing nothing.
I didn't like Dunkirk precisely because I knew the source material. It did not feel like a war movie - way too clean and the plot felt naive. It had cool individual scenes, fun structure and good soundscape but overall it didn't work for me.
Prometheus was a mega disappointment yeah.
League of Extraordinary Gentlemen - this was before I had read the comic. But the premise was so cool and then the movie was MEGA BAD.
Spectre. I was expecting this like nuts and it was very very mediocre even at its best. I constantly waited "no the awesomeness will begin any moment now" and then the movie was over and I was like "eh".
Kingdom of Heaven - this wasn't like actively bad or anything, I was just expecting a movie with political intrigue, great characters, personal soul-searching etc. But it was really simplistic with cardboard cutout characters and average battle scenes.
Gladiator - see above. Well this was okay movie actually, I was just expecting much more. I do think it is very overrated, but that's another topic.
The Hobbit. I am an enormous Tolkien and LOTR fan. had not liked Jackson's recent work but hoped he would be able to turn it around. He did not. Other two did not disappoint me because I fully expected them to suck.
Ambush. This is late 90's Finnish war movie. It was huge hit in the theatres and previews looked very good. So my expectations were high, this will take Finnish war movies into new millenia! And then it had super-stiff dialogue and Hollywoodized action scenes.
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trexmeyer wrote: I walked out of the first Hobbit movie. I've never attempted to watch it or any of the ones in the series again.
Oh you should totally see the other two Hobbit movies, they're MUCH MUCH worse than the first!
I am sounding like a stuck record but did you see Dunkirk in the cinema? It was a really awesome experience - the soundtrack, the effects, the way it was filmed. There were a couple of silly bits (Tom Hardy's perpetual gliding Spitfire) but I thought it was a really well made film and I think more than anything else has made me feel like I was there. I know it was unpopular with a lot of people because it wasn't particularly glorious and something that is regarded as a 'defeat' seems overly pessimistic. But, in my mind it showed the individual acts of valour and sacrifice and was much more poignant than Mel Gibson stood on a hill with a machine gun.
Kingdom of Heaven - I thought Orlando Bloom was the wrong lead for that film, otherwise it was great.
I've never seen lair Witch but my gods yes shaky cam films are a nightmare! Thankfully it mostly consigned itself to a group of horror films and they are not typically something I watch (I'm more of a Resident Evil type fan than a Blair Witch type fan when it comes to nasties and monsters)
I agree about Blair Witch. The only mitigating thing for that is I think if I had seen it in the US, and it was when all of the viral advertising (and comments of "is it real life?") advertising campaign coincided with the release of the film and was certainly quite clever - I think if I had been in the US and seen it under those circumstances then I can understand why it caused such a stir. Watching it years later on Netflix, when the hand-held cam has been done to death, it really hasn't aged very well though.
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Yes, Pacific, Blair Witch worked as an experience more than any movie I've ever seen. The hype was done in an age before viral marketing- this was when Pepsi had you mail in points for prizes. So all these rumors were circulating about something that may or may not have happened, and then it was filmed as excerpts from a film the victims had made (which was an all new concept). It was terrifying at the time.
That being said, it is absolutely one of those situations that can't be recreated. If you knew of its legend and went back and watched it today, it would definitely be terribly disappointing.
It was like the first season of Survivor- at the time, we legitimately thought they had marooned a dozen ordinary people on an island and they might starve, incapacitate themselves, or you know, do anything but be a reality sitcom on a beach. Now of course we know better- it takes a Fyre festival to do that.
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Orkeosaurus wrote:Star Trek also said we'd have X-Wings by now. We all see how that prediction turned out.
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The most recent Ghost In The Shell movie. Makes a flocking mockery out of the original comics by Shirow Masamune. Its like one of those hollywood adaptations/remakes which obliviously ignore the subtle nuances which make the original a masterpiece and just turn that ish to generic cyberpunk special fx orgy. Yawn
I can only hope they leave Appleseed alone.. Its suffered enough already.
If there's one production team I think could be trusted to do justice to the Shirow masterpieces, it'd be the team behind The Expanse.. They have the right idea about what mature scifi is about.
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Zed wrote: *All statements reflect my opinion at this moment. if some sort of pretty new model gets released (or if I change my mind at random) I reserve the right to jump on any bandwagon at will.
Wait, the classic original that started the chain, or the one that came out a few years ago?
'Cause if you're dissin the Schwarz, we're gonna have problems.
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Gitzbitah wrote: Yes, Pacific, Blair Witch worked as an experience more than any movie I've ever seen. The hype was done in an age before viral marketing- this was when Pepsi had you mail in points for prizes. So all these rumors were circulating about something that may or may not have happened, and then it was filmed as excerpts from a film the victims had made (which was an all new concept). It was terrifying at the time.
That being said, it is absolutely one of those situations that can't be recreated. If you knew of its legend and went back and watched it today, it would definitely be terribly disappointing.
That put it pretty much perfectly. You can't replicate the conditions. As I've said, I saw it opening night and there were people in the theater who thought it might be real.
It was like the first season of Survivor- at the time, we legitimately thought they had marooned a dozen ordinary people on an island and they might starve, incapacitate themselves, or you know, do anything but be a reality sitcom on a beach. Now of course we know better- it takes a Fyre festival to do that.
I think that the first season of Survivor -- like the first season of The Real World (dating myself here) -- had some interesting stuff going on. Then the TV executives and creatives really doubled down on looks and hookups and scripted drama, turning it into a pretty boring formula.
Frazzled wrote: Wait, the classic original that started the chain, or the one that came out a few years ago?
Def the new one. The original film is just called Predator. The new movie - so lazily put together you can point a finger at where the script rewrites and film reshoots happened - is The Predator.
And it was terrible for sure.
Can't say I was disappointed though. I expected it to be awful. Predator is a great character, but I feel like everyone who makes movies with um approaches the character all wrong; Predator is schi-fi Rambo, John McClane, Robocop, whatever, and the heroes of a Predator movie are the people who would be cannon fodder in a Rambo movie, Die Hard, or Robocop. Predator films have worked best when they're made like role-reversed action movies rather than mediocre horror movies with action.
The Predator? This time, there’s another one. Only this time. Instead of a face. It’s got Four Arses.
haha, brilliant
Honestly the only good thing I can say about the film is that it made me laugh, First the girl from IGN chasing after the Predator, the bit where the Predator had been in the back of the car and put severed arm through the thumbs up to the driver etc.
But it's a bit sad that you've got what is effectively a 'Carry on Predator-ing' of the first 2 films.
I enjoy monster movies - this was absolutely awful in every respect from the cringeworthy "characters" - Slamming a little door to keep the massive wave of radiation in to the constant obession with keeping monsters off screen to a fat stupid Zilla swimming with his warship friends.
Not a single good thing about that POS film - it could have only been worse if Christopher Nolan had been involved.
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Huge fan of Conan and quite like Jason Momoa - I wanted this to be good so bad and I hated it so so much. Probably more than a casual movie-goer because I was so invested.
Too much shoddy CGI, cheesy jokes, pointless travelling, paper thin comradery.. ugh
Tough one. It's pretty rare that I go in with both high expectations and find something that manages to fail to meet them without failing so hard to be an entertaining trainwreck.
The most recent is Rise of Skywalker for me, which is weird, because I didn't have a lot of faith in JJ, but still manages to somehow be the worst of both worlds to get stuck with. Either stick to their guns from TLJ or go with a simple crowd pleaser; honestly I don't really care. Instead we got the "Into Darkness" of the Star Wars cannon to go out on.
I am sounding like a stuck record but did you see Dunkirk in the cinema? It was a really awesome experience - the soundtrack, the effects, the way it was filmed. There were a couple of silly bits (Tom Hardy's perpetual gliding Spitfire) but I thought it was a really well made film and I think more than anything else has made me feel like I was there. I know it was unpopular with a lot of people because it wasn't particularly glorious and something that is regarded as a 'defeat' seems overly pessimistic. But, in my mind it showed the individual acts of valour and sacrifice and was much more poignant than Mel Gibson stood on a hill with a machine gun.
I did. It was overly loud with terrible sound editing (even vets of the actual battle complained that it was louder than the real battle) and very, very dull. More a comedy of errors without the comedy or any reason to care about the characters as they're passed along failed and emotionless escape attempts and finally end up exactly where you expect.
By far the most moving moment was Kenneth Branagh standing at the end of the dock clearly having an internal soliloquy on the subject of 'What the hell am I doing? I'm better than this!'
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the Mel Gibson comparison is a weird strawman for an argument nobody raised.
It definitely qualifies as one of the most disappointing films I've seen in a theatre in the last few years. Not for being objectively terrible but just for doing nothing of any note. Its a forgettable, not-accurate-enough portrayal of a moment of history that could have been served better, laboriously going over the same ground from different perspectives but not handling any of the details well (despite the details being exactly what that sort of laborious style lives or dies by).
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"Hard pressed on my right. My centre is yielding. Impossible to manoeuvre. Situation excellent. I am attacking." - General Ferdinand Foch 
) to psychically read the ship and see what happened to the crew because no one left any records.
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