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2013/10/19 03:43:12
Subject: Reaper Miniatures Bones II: $1.91M, $1.965M Numenera and Terrain, $2.04M for Angels
Probably resin in the video. They're not quite as bright white as the final bones products are.
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Balance in pick up games? Two people, each with their own goals for the game, design half a board game on their own without knowing the layout of the board and hope it all works out. Good luck with that. The faster you can find like minded individuals who want the same things from the game as you, the better.
2013/10/19 06:52:44
Subject: Re:Reaper Miniatures Bones II: $1.91M, $1.965M Numenera and Terrain, $2.04M for Angels
And now - to start your final week off in the right spirit - a Trick Card! That's right, another surprise Stretch Goal!
If we can reach $2 Million raised - we'll add Another Bag O' Bases! These 2-inch bases are suitable for Large miniatures, and will be made from a sturdier plastic than our normal Bones material. They feature a flat surface on one side and a raised lip on the other - perfect for gaming or creating elaborate scenes! (Additional sets can be selected via the Pledge Calculator)
And what's on tap next? Expansion Two - Part Two!
And of course, after this - we're revealing Expansion 3, Part Two!
The second part of this Expansion features a brood of Tentacled aliens! Three fierce Bathalians - the Exarch, Primarch, and Centurion, and three ray-gun wielding Kulathi!
But there's More to come!
We've still got more coming for the Core Set!
More Options!
More things to fill out the Expansions!
But we need your help to achieve these new goals! Be sure to follow us on Twitter @Reapermini, talk about the Kickstarter using #ReaperBones, Like us on FaceBook, talk about us on every forum you can, and join our forums at reapermini.com/forum to join in the conversation! The more backers we get, the more sweet rewards we unlock for you!
To make it easier for you to track, Dark Purple images will be added to your Core Set, Light Purple are Extra copies of those rewards, Ochre ones are Expansion 1, Orange ones will be available as additional rewards simply by increasing your pledge, Expansion Set #2 is on a Blue background, and Expansion Set #3 is Red!
If it gets overwhelming the Pledge Claculator can help you keep track of it all at https://ks.reapermini.com/ It saves your pledge, so you don't have to remember what you were pledging for, but it's flexible enough that you can make changes to your pledge at any time! For help with the Pledge Calculator - please see our FAQ on the Home Tab.
THANK YOU!
~Reaper
Well, I guess it won't be a full terrain expansion after all...
The Kulathi are almost not-Genestealer Hybrids too (yeah, I know they look very different to the original hybrids, but I could still see them working, especially if kitbashed with Guard and Genestealers).
And now - to start your final week off in the right spirit - a Trick Card! That's right, another surprise Stretch Goal!
If we can reach $2 Million raised - we'll add Another Bag O' Bases! These 2-inch bases are suitable for Large miniatures, and will be made from a sturdier plastic than our normal Bones material. They feature a flat surface on one side and a raised lip on the other - perfect for gaming or creating elaborate scenes! (Additional sets can be selected via the Pledge Calculator)
And what's on tap next? Expansion Two - Part Two!
And of course, after this - we're revealing Expansion 3, Part Two!
The second part of this Expansion features a brood of Tentacled aliens! Three fierce Bathalians - the Exarch, Primarch, and Centurion, and three ray-gun wielding Kulathi!
But there's More to come!
We've still got more coming for the Core Set!
More Options!
More things to fill out the Expansions!
But we need your help to achieve these new goals! Be sure to follow us on Twitter @Reapermini, talk about the Kickstarter using #ReaperBones, Like us on FaceBook, talk about us on every forum you can, and join our forums at reapermini.com/forum to join in the conversation! The more backers we get, the more sweet rewards we unlock for you!
To make it easier for you to track, Dark Purple images will be added to your Core Set, Light Purple are Extra copies of those rewards, Ochre ones are Expansion 1, Orange ones will be available as additional rewards simply by increasing your pledge, Expansion Set #2 is on a Blue background, and Expansion Set #3 is Red!
If it gets overwhelming the Pledge Claculator can help you keep track of it all at https://ks.reapermini.com/ It saves your pledge, so you don't have to remember what you were pledging for, but it's flexible enough that you can make changes to your pledge at any time! For help with the Pledge Calculator - please see our FAQ on the Home Tab.
THANK YOU!
~Reaper
Well, I guess it won't be a full terrain expansion after all...
They had stated that #3 would be Chronoscope modern and sci-fi earlier.
Along with the Numenera beasties, there is starting to be a pretty good alien menagerie assortment.
2013/10/19 23:17:42
Subject: Reaper Miniatures Bones II: $1.91M, $1.965M Numenera and Terrain, $2.04M for Angels
Yep, although I have heard there is more coming - nothing specific on what or when.
Today was a pretty good day overall, should hit the Angels around this time tomorrow and the next goal revealed should be a freebie add-on to the core and possibly an option (thinking possibly some of the werewolves or maybe that big gorilla from the hints I have been getting).
It is starting to get a bit more difficult to track all 4 forks on the goals though. Expansions #2 and #3, Core and Options. They will be trying to space out the goals for all three to keep them close to one reveal a day going into the last week.
For those who are tracking that sort of thing, right now if all the revealed goals are met - there will be 267 miniatures, 70 bases, 24 paints and a figure case if you got one of everything. The figures end up being at $1.66 each for a total cost of $444 (not including pledges for paints the case or shipping, customs, taxes...).
Many of those figures are really rather large (dragons, giants, demons, various squid things...) so while not quite at the same level as the first campaign yet - it will probably be a better value compared to final retail price or when comparing retail metal to retail Bones.
I'm rather disappointed that there weren't any new reveals in this latest update. Hopefully within this coming week we'll be able to surpass the previous KS.
Oct 19, 2013
$2,000,000! LAST WEEK BEGINS!
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Thank you so much everybody! We've just completed raising $2,000,000 (and 50 Updates!) and we still have a week to go! This means that we're going to include 20 2" bases in every core set!
And now, we're $40,000 from Unlocking the Angels in Expansion Set 2!
After that, we'll start on The second part of Expansion Set 3!
But there's More to come!
We've still got more coming for the Core Set!
More Options!
More things to fill out the Expansions!
But we need your help to achieve these new goals!
Be sure to follow us on Twitter @Reapermini, talk about the Kickstarter using #ReaperBones, Like us on FaceBook, talk about us on every forum you can, and join our forums at reapermini.com/forum to join in the conversation! The more backers we get, the more sweet rewards we unlock for you!
To make it easier for you to track, Dark Purple images will be added to your Core Set, Light Purple are Extra copies of those rewards, Ochre ones are Expansion 1, Orange ones will be available as additional rewards simply by increasing your pledge, Expansion Set #2 is on a Blue background, and Expansion Set #3 is Red!
If it gets overwhelming the Pledge Claculator can help you keep track of it all at https://ks.reapermini.com/ It saves your pledge, so you don't have to remember what you were pledging for, but it's flexible enough that you can make changes to your pledge at any time! For help with the Pledge Calculator - please see our FAQ on the Home Tab.
The bases were not a regular stretch, they were one of the "trick cards"...with likely 2 more of those coming in the next week or so. We were shown the squids this morning and will get the next reveal in $33K.
Sean_OBrien wrote: The bases were not a regular stretch, they were one of the "trick cards"...with likely 2 more of those coming in the next week or so. We were shown the squids this morning and will get the next reveal in $33K.
I know. It's still an update though. I'm quite satisfied with the introduction of all these bases. It saves me a little extra cash to get them something to stand upright on- it cuts down on balance issues(when they exist).
I'd need to see them in person. There's also Wargames fFactory, but those are true 28mm scale, like Foundry scale.
Sway wrote: As much as I don't understand people waiting to pledge until late in the game, I really REALLY don't understand people dropping out this early.
Whether or not you think the deal is worth it right now, the deal is only going to get better.
Yeah, but without seeing what you're getting, why buy sight sunseen? What I'm seeing now is very underwhelming? WTF am I going to do with a big kraken figure or a big turtle-man?
In fairness, I'm sure fantasy players hated the IMEF marines and Chronoscope figures, but the first kickstarter gave you a little taste of everything.
BobtheInquisitor wrote: I'm really looking forward to more troops and cavalry. But, as Azazel pointed out, this round of Reaper KS Magic feels like a lot less of a great deal.
It's still a great deal in the strictest sense - and in raw numbers/size, but the "grab-bag" element that worked so well in Bones 1 works a lot less well when the price is more than doubled. With the first campaign, there were a lot of figures that I'm not especially interested in, but at the price? Sure, whatever, I'll take them, no problem. This time around, the figures I don't want are almost as relevant as the ones I do want - like Expansion 1 - only interested in about half of them. So while on paper, it's still a deal - is it worthwhile for me to buy them all, pay for them all to ship, and a year in advance? I'm just not sure yet. Especially when there's a lot of other things I could do with that money right now...
KS2 is like, what, a million dollars and 50 models ahead of where KS1 was at the same point?
But that's why KS1 made 75% of it's money in the last few days... a lot of complaining that 90 cents is just too much to pay for a miniature! But when it's 75 cents, i'm all in!
Yeah, but when the figures are stuff like dwarf riders, riding a bear while holding a toilet plunger, turtlemen, and were-sharks and stuff, it's just a bizarre deal. Why not include the werewolf and ghost that are already available in Bones? Maybe some skeletyon or orcs?
Okay, what the hell is this? I'm anerd, through and through, but I have no idea what Numenera is. Apparently it involves gribbly figures no-one running a standard D&D game has heard of. If they tossed in some Darsun psionic guys or Ravenloft gothic figures, I'd groan ad get over it. But this? This, I have no idea of.
Looking for the Empire spearmen from the Warhammer sixth edition box set (empire vs orcs) Must be unpainted and in good condition. Also looking for MIB Empire State Troops boxes.
Looking for Battle for Macragge and Black Reach Tactical squads, unpainted and unassembled.
The bases are good in that almost everyone will need them anyway, and also it allows Reaper to get their feet wet with plastic production in house and start to do costing calculations for production in Texas versus China.
Plus, once things get rolling, those can end up evening out sales as the molds will cost significantly less so they will start to see real profits sooner.
While I would be very happy to see a Bones KS3, I think this will be the last general purpose KS fro them. They have been talking about a CAV KS campaign though to expand the options there and the possibility of doing those in HIPS as kits with all the options. Not sure if that has gone much further though as it isnt in my scales, so I never bother to press for details on them.
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Okay, what the hell is this? I'm anerd, through and through, but I have no idea what Numenera is. Apparently it involves gribbly figures no-one running a standard D&D game has heard of. If they tossed in some Darsun psionic guys or Ravenloft gothic figures, I'd groan ad get over it. But this? This, I have no idea of.
Sway wrote: As much as I don't understand people waiting to pledge until late in the game, I really REALLY don't understand people dropping out this early.
Whether or not you think the deal is worth it right now, the deal is only going to get better.
Yeah, but without seeing what you're getting, why buy sight sunseen? What I'm seeing now is very underwhelming? WTF am I going to do with a big kraken figure or a big turtle-man?
In fairness, I'm sure fantasy players hated the IMEF marines and Chronoscope figures, but the first kickstarter gave you a little taste of everything.
I don't think you understand what I'm getting at here. You're not buying sight unseen. You're promising to give them your money once you have seen the product (stretch goals). And that promise is entirely non-binding. You don't lose any money for another 7 days and when that last day hits you can decide to drop out with zero penalty. So why drop out now? You gain nothing.
KS2 is like, what, a million dollars and 50 models ahead of where KS1 was at the same point?
But that's why KS1 made 75% of it's money in the last few days... a lot of complaining that 90 cents is just too much to pay for a miniature! But when it's 75 cents, i'm all in!
Yeah, but when the figures are stuff like dwarf riders, riding a bear while holding a toilet plunger, turtlemen, and were-sharks and stuff, it's just a bizarre deal. Why not include the werewolf and ghost that are already available in Bones? Maybe some skeletyon or orcs?
You've mentioned that you're mostly interested in the sci-fi models. For all you know, every stretch goal announced from here on out will be sci-fi the whole way. I'm not saying you're stupid for not backing the kickstarter. What I don't understand is why you would pledge early and secure the early shipping date and then drop out before you know the extent of what you're choosing not to buy. The money doesn't go away until the end. Dropping out last week is the same as dropping out on the last day. So why not wait and see what happens?
The risk vs reward here just doesn't make sense. Your risk for dropping out now vs dropping out on the last day is that you might decide on the last day that actually those stretch goals are looking pretty great and you want to stay in. You'll still be able to buy the product, but you'll get it much later. The reward for dropping out now vs dropping out on the last day is literally nothing.
I'd love an entire expansion being sci-fi and filling out. My only other wish is that expansion backs end up having their individual groups of miniatures available as options like the core options.
Balance in pick up games? Two people, each with their own goals for the game, design half a board game on their own without knowing the layout of the board and hope it all works out. Good luck with that. The faster you can find like minded individuals who want the same things from the game as you, the better.
frozenwastes wrote: I'd love an entire expansion being sci-fi and filling out. My only other wish is that expansion backs end up having their individual groups of miniatures available as options like the core options.
It can be hard to see...but look closely at the logo of Expansion #3
Spoiler:
4 more goals to fill it out should make it pretty tasty with modern and sci fi stuff. They have pulp and Weird West covered already. Perhaps some reinforcements for the existing sci fi figures?
Also, going a bit over $2k per hour, so the next reveal should be in 5-6 hours.
We've hit the next goal and revealed a new stretch goal:
We have now Unlocked the Angels in Expansion Set 2!
Next up - The Tentacular Aliens in Expansion Set 3!
And following this - We Bring to you Mashaaf - Great Old One!
She's a great enormous worm-like creature, suitable as a Lovecraftian horror, the Demon Lord of Charnel Grubs, or the Mother of all Devouring Worms! Once we reach $2,275,000, she can be yours by simply increasing you pledge by $12!!
But there's More to come!
We've still got more coming for the Core Set!
More Options!
More things to fill out the Expansions!
But we need your help to achieve these new goals!
Be sure to follow us on Twitter @Reapermini, talk about the Kickstarter using #ReaperBones, Like us on FaceBook, talk about us on every forum you can, and join our forums at reapermini.com/forum to join in the conversation! The more backers we get, the more sweet rewards we unlock for you!
To make it easier for you to track, Dark Purple images will be added to your Core Set, Light Purple are Extra copies of those rewards, Ochre ones are Expansion 1, Orange ones will be available as additional rewards simply by increasing your pledge, Expansion Set #2 is on a Blue background, and Expansion Set #3 is Red!
If it gets overwhelming the Pledge Claculator can help you keep track of it all at https://ks.reapermini.com/ It saves your pledge, so you don't have to remember what you were pledging for, but it's flexible enough that you can make changes to your pledge at any time! For help with the Pledge Calculator - please see our FAQ on the Home Tab.
THANK YOU!
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