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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
The pledge managers for both

Dungeons & Lasers 3 and Ramparts 3 are both closing on 10th June

so if anybody has delayed finalising it (or wants to order another pledge) get shopping

Wasn’t the Ramparts PM supposed to be open until December?

i believe this was the initial plan but they're going to deliver 6 months early so they need to close it now (about a 70/30 split in the comments betweeen yay early and aargh i've budgeted to do it in december)


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Introducing the first big ddd-on - Modular River. They're 4-tile-wide pieces, using floor technology. One riverbank tile on each side (higher than water), and two tiles in the middle with water. As the Modular part of the name implies you can stack the tiles with meanderings and shallows. Modular River is going to be manufactured in Clear Plastic. And we're planning to give it a few thematic Stretch Goals

Thanks Orlando.

Well, I completed my PM a day late and with far fewer funds than I would have liked. Shipping and no frills, basically. Wheeeeee.

Cool idea for the river to have connector under the banks so they don't feth up the clear plastic like they do in the sewers. I wonder if they'll do an L shaped connector for the inner corner of the curve tho, as it obviously can't fit two regular connectors.


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Oh!

I thought this was worth pointing out



Youtube thumbnail for the next stream has a "Super stretch goal reveal"

So there's gonna be another Big Thing for 1 million euro or whatever.

Heroic and Legendary pledges added. Legendary also has the D&L4 add-ons and D&L3 stuff. Only seeing two mats, which is fine because Giants and Creators don't really need their own mats.

99 Euro: Starter: 2 sets, plus SG4 and Terrasque. 50 per set.
149 Euro: Adventurer : 4 sets, plus SG4 and Terrasque. Marginal cost of 25 per set vs. Starter.
199 Euro : Heroic: 6 sets, plus SG4 and Terrasque. Marginal cost of 25 per set vs. Adventurer and Starter.
399 Euro : Legendary: 6 sets, plus SG4 and Terrasque, D&L4 add-ons, one of each D&L1-3 fantasy room or core, D&L3 add-ons, including SG2 fantasy. Best buy if you want more D&L3 stuff.

Legendary is a good way to catch up with D&L3, although the Townsfolk minis and SG3 aren't there. But if you didn't like the human mini's scale (28mm truescale, smaller than Reaper 28mm/32mm heroic), that might be a good thing! Legendary has the smaller add-ons (eg. stairs), which I thought were overpriced but necessary in D&L3 relative to the core and SG, so I figure I'll pick up Legendary to get more of these. You may want to get another Roof pack!

The marginal 200 Euro cost of the Legendary pledge gets you both mats, both D&L4 add-ons, both fantasy cores, all six D&L rooms, SG2 fantasy, and the overpriced miniatures and small add-ons. Something like ten of these major add-ons costs 200 Euros. I expect Rapid Delivery so you can get your D&L3 loot in a first wave!

Probably going to stick to Adventurer, although I would have liked Legendary for more village stuff!

Blah blah blah shipping is expensive but this is made in Poland so watch out for Russia.

Again, follow the project on Gamebound BEFORE the 14th so you get your free overpriced 80mm tall miniature!

Nothing new today just a render of the Ruins and Woods kit (which appears to be ready to ship after the campaign)

My D&L 3 arrived. Very happy overall. I can see that some will be disappointed with the scale of the human mins, but the terrain and the rest scales fine. The giant is as tall as a mancrusher gargant he's just skinny by comparison which is fine as I wanted some variation in my mancrushers. I've rebased the troll on a 60mm base and he looks better on it. I get the need for 50mm bases as they are aiming at an RPG crowd but it's good that they are using 75mm for D&L4 as well.

If the giant were modular they'd sell so many...

Yeah if only the rock wasn't fused to the arm and body. All it needs is alt arms and a head which wouldn't have taken up to much sprue space.

Sneak peak at a Harpy?

And the world's smallest yurt

Gabriel posted some miniature scale comparison pics in the D&L3 KS section. Acceptable to me, at least for tabletop gaming!

"hey, received the box earlier this week (france) and I remembered that people were curious about how the miniatures scaled with others. so I picked up a bunch of minis in my reserve and the few townfolks I had already assembled to do some pictures.

general view: https://ibb.co/HxMbYQ7
close up: (mantic, GW warhammer and LSDA): https://ibb.co/3hQd9JX
zombicide and mythic battle: https://ibb.co/q17t0Mh
blacklistGame and dark souls : https://ibb.co/McMVgxV

Better off following the links, but for the link impaired, here're the pics in their *original* size. Links go to smaller pics.




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 ced1106 wrote:

399 Euro : Legendary: 6 sets, plus SG4 and Terrasque, D&L4 add-ons, one of each D&L1-3 fantasy room or core, D&L3 add-ons, including SG2 fantasy. Best buy if you want more D&L3 stuff.

Legendary is a good way to catch up with D&L3, although the Townsfolk minis and SG3 aren't there. But if you didn't like the human mini's scale (28mm truescale, smaller than Reaper 28mm/32mm heroic), that might be a good thing! Legendary has the smaller add-ons (eg. stairs), which I thought were overpriced but necessary in D&L3 relative to the core and SG, so I figure I'll pick up Legendary to get more of these. You may want to get another Roof pack!

Well, Legendary replaced the Roof pack with SG3. So now you're going to want at least two Roof pack add-ons (assuming they're available) for the four rooms. D&L3 SG's had a fair number of townsfolk, plus monsters and city bits terrain. : https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/archonstudio/dungeons-and-lasers-third-edition/description

Gonna "just" do the 149 euro 4-set pledge, assuming the SG's are as crazy good as previous D&L's.

Six-anna-half hours left! Follow on Gamefound for your "free" overpriced Leshy figure! : https://gamefound.com/projects/archon-studio/encounters#/section/project-story

First 3 SG, the big SG to be revealed later tonight and looks like a backer SG last 2 are placeholders. Hopefully that Shaman tent is bigger than shown as it will only fit a Goblin Shaman!

Live in 1hour 45min

now live https://gamefound.com/projects/archon-studio/encounters#/section/available-encounter-sets-9467

Yeah those tents and huts are gonna be useless even at D&L people scale.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Yeah those tents and huts are gonna be useless even at D&L people scale.

Tower too unfortunately. The 30mm base looks about as big as the narrow point of the tower. They've kind of always had this issue though, the doors on the Eternal Cathedral for Rampart are small even at their figure scale.

I must say I like the functionality of Gamefound much better than KS - KS need to invest in their platform, it really hasn't changed much in the 10 years I've been on it, or they are going to lose more projects to Gamefound.

Kirioth has some of the rock formations from the Elven Woods which he's painted (9 minutes in video)




Always Board Never Boring




Burnt Aquilla Painting




Dale the Casual Gamer

Launch stream news

The mini for scale on the concept art isn't final they'll scale them properly during sculpting. The swamp hut platform should hold a mini on a 25mm base.

- Super Stretch Goals - 1 per backer
€400,000 - Merchants Wagon
12,000 followers Tree of Spirits (clear plastic)

- No separate add on for single Encounter sets
- Tarrasque 1 per backer with a terrain pledge (includes creature set) - an add ons only pledge even if over €99 doesn't count
- No legacy dragons add on
- River clear plastic - 8 parts, 3 corners, 3 straights, 1 "waterfall", 1 "wide end" straight, may have more than 1 colour available for the campaign, clips do not connect to the sewer they are in a different place. SG to add bits. No Y or T pieces due to tooling cost.
- More than the 2 Harpies shown so far
- No trees planned for add ons or SG
- PM should be open until December
- They are looking at the scale for the minis - creatures have been scaled to fit with other ranges
- No mat for Land of Giants
- No AMA this week
- Gate of the Sun in clear plastic part of the Elvish architecture SGs
- expect more mermaids
- The cage is part of the huts set (which is now complete 4 of 4)
- Place Long Forgotten is part of a set of magical ruins
- 1 ant per the image

Anyone know why the river gets wider? I'd assumed to feed into another structure, but they said no pond/lake IIRC. I guess with two you can widen then narrow on the next piece, but still a bit of an odd choice.

Good they are looking at scaling the huts. They said a 25mm base wil fit on the edge, but aren't theirs on 30mm? or is it just the squares in D&L are 30mm?

Bases are 25mm and 50mm, the grids are 30mm they upscaled the grids in D&L 1 at backers request to give a bit more space.

Not really sure what I would do with one giant ant, seems a bit odd

Well those hills really are tiny huh, 4 of them come on a sprue that's at most 5x10"

Remind me- is it all stretch goals are included for whatever pledge you're getting, or is it specific goals go in specific sets?

I feel like it was the former the last time, right?

I'm just wondering if I don't back the creature set, if I'm still going to get all the creatures that end up in the SG like the ant, harpies, and who knows what else.

Shipping is not tight.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Remind me- is it all stretch goals are included for whatever pledge you're getting, or is it specific goals go in specific sets?

I feel like it was the former the last time, right?

I'm just wondering if I don't back the creature set, if I'm still going to get all the creatures that end up in the SG like the ant, harpies, and who knows what else.

SG aren't tied to sets they are designed to compliment them some are of a specific theme but you get a full set of SG regardless of your actual encounter set choices.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Remind me- is it all stretch goals are included for whatever pledge you're getting, or is it specific goals go in specific sets?

I feel like it was the former the last time, right?

I'm just wondering if I don't back the creature set, if I'm still going to get all the creatures that end up in the SG like the ant, harpies, and who knows what else.

All stretch goals go in the stretch goal pile currently. So if you get a pledge with stretch goals (I think all this time around), you get everything, even if it's thematically linked to a choice you didn't pick.

I guess they might divide them up later for sale or other campaigns, like how they split previous campaigns fantasy and sci-fi stretch goals.

> Anyone know why the river gets wider?

Good catch! It'll at least be useful to integrate with other party 2D maps (eg. river merging with ocean).

I already have the old OOP Terra Tiles 2D terrain, but may go with "negative space" for water, much like how D&L4's swamp works, if I ever need a pond or larger river. Dunno.

http://irishserb.blogspot.com/2010/11/20mm-vietnam-riverine-terrain-part-3-of.html

*****

Looks like the "big terrain" SG's won out on the surveys!

Dunno how to price these things, but I haven't bought them (individually retail) because they were always more than I'd pay for random obstacles to put on a gaming mat.

Is there a freebie or discount for pledging during the campaign instead of a late pledge?

Other than unlocking SG's, I don't think so. In D&L3, they had an EB model, but this time it's a pre-campaign model if you followed them on GF before the campaign (not clear if you get this if you late pledge).

Will pledge later when the SG goals are further apart and the pledges aren't coming as strong.

Frogfolk and lean-to shelter next. Interesting how the frogfolk SG gap is 30K, while the gap to the shelter is 10K. Looks like someone's actually basing the SG to the cost of the SG?

BigOscar wrote:
Not really sure what I would do with one giant ant, seems a bit odd

I agree. I was hoping for several giant ants, larger than the giant ants in the Reaper Bones 6 Kickstarter, to use as soldier ants. Sigh. Oh well, a missed opportunity.

 Grumpy Gnome wrote:

BigOscar wrote:
Not really sure what I would do with one giant ant, seems a bit odd

I agree. I was hoping for several giant ants, larger than the giant ants in the Reaper Bones 6 Kickstarter, to use as soldier ants. Sigh. Oh well, a missed opportunity.

I hope that there will be more later because there really is no such thing as too many giant ants.

And I have to say, I absolutely love the wasps.

 Grumpy Gnome wrote:

BigOscar wrote:
Not really sure what I would do with one giant ant, seems a bit odd

I agree. I was hoping for several giant ants, larger than the giant ants in the Reaper Bones 6 Kickstarter, to use as soldier ants. Sigh. Oh well, a missed opportunity.

That's the biggest issue I have with the SG is all the "what would I do with just one ..." items. I feel it would have been better to just add SG to boxes where the theme matched so people would get them with each box similar to how mantic has done things with their terrain kickstarters.

 Monkeysloth wrote:

 Grumpy Gnome wrote:

BigOscar wrote:
Not really sure what I would do with one giant ant, seems a bit odd

I agree. I was hoping for several giant ants, larger than the giant ants in the Reaper Bones 6 Kickstarter, to use as soldier ants. Sigh. Oh well, a missed opportunity.

That's the biggest issue I have with the SG is all the "what would I do with just one ..." items. I feel it would have been better to just add SG to boxes where the theme matched so people would get them with each box similar to how mantic has done things with their terrain kickstarters.

To be fair, I just looked at what happened overnight and noticed that the stretch goal with the picture of the ant says 'Giant Ants', so there probably are multiple under that stretch goal.