Necromunda Underhive - House of Chains Pg272

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**fresus**

I didn't read the whole thread, so sorry if it has been asked before, but does anyone know what's up with the Cawdor Executioner?

I think it was announced at Warhammer Fest last year, but the corresponding WarCo article makes no mention of it : https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/05/11/warhammer-fest-live-blog-2gw-homepage-post-1/
Some people at the time thought it looked too much like a KKK guy, so did GW pulled the plug on it by fear of bad publicity?
It also looks like the giant rats weren't released either:

**Chikout**

The executioner was dropped and the cats are getting a redesign to make them better.

**fresus**

Great, thank you!
So it was dropped because of community backlash? Since it reached the painted stage, it was pretty much done design wise.

**GaroRobe**

Yeah, I think he even went up for preorder for a short time, before being dropped entirely.

**Yodhrin**

fresus wrote:
Great, thank you!
So it was dropped because of community backlash? Since it reached the painted stage, it was pretty much done design wise.

No, we don't know for sure why it was dropped, but if it was due to "backlash" it wasn't from the community, just a handful of loudmouths who can't grasp the difference between fiction and reality. And if anyone takes issue with that characterisation - have a gander at literally any of the discussions about this model in Necromunda forums/groups, you'll find an overwhelming majority who want it released and think GW were daft to cave in if indeed that's what happened, a modest minority who can understand why GW might cave in even if they disagree, and once in a while you'll find maybe one or two people who're actually arguing it's badwrong and should be banned. Even then, you won't find them for long, because their outrage at GW quickly turns to outrage at everyone else for not agreeing with them and they either storm off in a huff or start slinging abuse and get the boot.

**Tim the Biovore**

Apologies, whereabouts was it said/confirmed to be dropped? Not doubting the validity of the claim, because it obviously isn't available, just want to see for myself what was said.

**AduroT**

Honestly they just need to ditch the pointed hood and give him the same kind of masks the rest of the gang wear and it would be fine.

**Crimson**

AduroT wrote:
Honestly they just need to ditch the pointed hood and give him the same kind of masks the rest of the gang wear and it would be fine.

Yep. And I hope that the delay is because they're doing exactly that.

**AduroT**

Tim the Biovore wrote:
Apologies, whereabouts was it said/confirmed to be dropped? Not doubting the validity of the claim, because it obviously isn't available, just want to see for myself what was said.

Nothing was said, period. They took down all the previews and mention of this model without a word. They held up the MIB flashy thing.

**Kanluwen**

GaroRobe wrote:
Yeah, I think he even went up for preorder for a short time, before being dropped entirely.

He did not go up for preorder.
We saw a painted master at an event as part of a slideshow.

From what little discussion has come out by way of "I talked to soandso at an event and asked about it", it's supposedly in the process of getting reworked(notably: the removal of the nooses and a rejig of the hood).

**Ancient Otter**

Did I see sleeves for the cards with the Necromunda logo on them one time or did I imagine them?

**highlord tamburlaine**

I liked that executioner too.
Just give him a fancier/ more gothic headpiece and call it a day. I like the candles and nooses. How those ropes aren't catching on fire is an entirely other story...

**Yodhrin**

AduroT wrote:
Honestly they just need to ditch the pointed hood and give him the same kind of masks the rest of the gang wear and it would be fine.

It's fine as it is, they don't need to do anything to it at all. And frankly, if they did, it would set a terrible precedent - there are countless things in GW's IPs that someone can spin as "offensive" if they really try, are they going to remove or sanitise them all? Especially on the basis of a tiny, tiny, so small as to be almost nonexistent minority of customers chucking a hissy?

EDIT: And if they do remove the nooses and the hood, then sod them I will sculpt them back on myself and make a point of using the model as often as I can and associating it with GW as often as I can.

**porkuslime**

Yodhrin wrote:

EDIT: And if they do remove the nooses and the hood, then sod them I will sculpt them back on myself and make a point of using the model as often as I can and associating it with GW as often as I can.

Might be hard to do this exactly if they actually DO NOT release the model..

You can certainly kitbash one.. but I THINK this guy is doomed to be "Unreleased"

**BrookM**

Guys, take is somewhere else, PLEASE.

**beast_gts**

Ancient Otter wrote:
Did I see sleeves for the cards with the Necromunda logo on them one time or did I imagine them?

Yes - that was a slide from one of the presentations.

**Gael Knight**

Cool. I like having art direction dictated by people who have such a narrow view of history. He looks nothing like a clansman. It's penitent x executioner. The nooses are just their aesthetic.

Sad that grimdark can be bitched away. Does that mean Redemptionists are gone and are never coming back? Sad. They were great models. Was hoping for plastic ones eventually.

**BrookM**

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-NL/Hired-Guns-Yar-Umbra-and-The-Deserter-2019

Many Hired Guns ply their bloody trade in the depths of Necromunda's underhive, among them Yar Umbra and the Deserter.

Yar Umbra came to Hive Primus from another world. Unfortunately for Yar, when his ship left he wasn't on it. He now sells his services to the highest bidder, trying to scrape together the credits to get off Necromunda and return to his old life.

None know the Deserter's identity, but his tattoos mark him as a veteran of the legendary Necromundan 8th. The crazy old soldier lives downhive in a booby-trapped warren, and there are few individuals as talented when it comes to laying traps or setting ambushes.

Both Yar Umbra and the Deserter can be hired by any gang in your games of Necromunda. Yar Umbra makes an excellent sniper, his long lasrifle perfect for picking off unwary gangers who find themselves out of cover. The Deserter can be used as a medic, and allows gangs that hire him to earn extra experience, representing the skills and knowledge he earned in service to the Emperor.

This 15-piece resin kit makes 2 miniatures, one for Yar Umbra and the other the Deserter. Rules for using them in your games are included in the packaging, and can also be found in the Gangs of the Underhive expansion.

**Tyranid Horde**

They actually look amazing, especially Yar Umber.

**Warhams-77**

Nice models

**Overread**

The faces on the deserter is really well done! Very characterful!

**Inquisitor Gideon**

Nicely painted, i like very much. Now i just really want the pipe runner.

**Dread Master**

I hope the executioner comes out exactly as he was shown. He looks awesome! The new bounty hunters are cool too.

**Samko**

Looks like FW's painter returned from his vacations.

Nice minis and paint job.

**H.B.M.C.**

Very good looking minis.

I made sure to ask FW about the Cawdor guy with the axe.

**GaroRobe**

Necromunda models really are awesome. I was hoping I'd like Yar Umbra more (I'm a sucker for a scarecrow hood) but I think I'll like him more with a black "executioner" hood. The Deserter would go great with Grub from Hired Guns. Make a Blanchistu Imperial Guard unit.

Hopefully someone will put these guys up on ebay when they get released (It was the only way I was able to get Hired guns XD)

Only real complaint is Yar has one of those "Necromunda Purity seals" on his shoulder pad, and I have yet to see one that looks good. It doesn't take away from the model, but it really doesn't add anything to him.Nothing that a file and clippers couldn't fix.

**Gael Knight**

Bag face man is cool af.

**the_scotsman**

didnt see mod warning.

**GaroRobe**

Anyone else think like The Deserter looks like Jorah Mormont? Maybe he'll have more like with a nice Escher gang member

**John D Law**

Wasn’t the deserter a model in the old Inquisitor 56mm game?