Teen killed over shoes

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**stanman**

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/police-teen-shot-dead-shopper-attempted-robbery-had-205322408.html

Police: Teen shot dead by shopper in attempted robbery had missed out on limited-edition shoes
The Canadian PressBy Dan Sewell, The Associated Press | The Canadian Press – Tue, 23 Dec, 2014

CINCINNATI - Police were studying mall surveillance video Tuesday in their investigation of the fatal shooting of a 16-year-old Ohio boy authorities say tried to rob a shopper in his quest to obtain popular, limited-edition athletic shoes.

Miami Township police said a man with a concealed weapon permit fired his gun after he and another man were accosted Saturday morning by three teens on a sidewalk outside the Dayton Mall. Police said one teen had showed a gun.

Jawaad Jabbar of Middletown died a short time later of a gunshot wound to his torso, authorities said.
Police said the two groups — the three teens and the two men — didn't know each other, but had all had gone to the mall south of Dayton for Nike Air Jordan sales offered by multiple stores.
Police Chief Ronald Hess said Tuesday the stores had set up systems to avoid long, tense lines that have led to problems elsewhere when the popular brand has released new versions, and the three Middletown teens apparently missed out.

Police said the teens were outside on a sidewalk when the two men left the mall carrying newly bought shoes.
"They did have the boxes from the stores that were having the limited-edition sales," Hess told The Associated Press on Tuesday. Police said Jabbar displayed a gun and demanded their merchandise, then the man with the concealed weapon permit pulled out his gun and shot him. No one else was injured.
The other two teens remained held in juvenile detention while the investigation continues. Police haven't released the identity of the man who fired the shot, and are still investigating his actions.
"We'll review the whole case with the county prosecutor, and if they determine he violated some law, then yes (he could be charged)," Hess said. There was no estimate on how long the investigation would take, he said.

Jabbar's father, Wallace Jabbar, told The Hamilton-Middletown Journal-News in a brief telephone call Monday evening that he was "obviously devastated" and has been out of town working. The newspaper said Jabbar's mother declined to comment.

Jawaad Jabbar was a student and athlete at Middletown High School, which is on holiday break.
The Nike shoes named for retired basketball superstar Michael Jordan are prized by both athletes and collectors, and entrepreneurs often sell shoes bought for around $200 at double that or more online.

Police in New Jersey and Louisiana reported armed robberies in recent months involving Air Jordans, and a Springfield, Massachusetts, man was sentenced to up to four years in prison for a shooting that wounded an 11-year-old girl waiting in line at an Air Jordan sale in 2013.

News media outlets in the Toledo, Ohio, area reported last week that police used pepper spray to disperse crowds gathered for an Air Jordan shoe sale at Franklin Park Mall.
A spokesman for Nike's Jordan Brand said in a statement Tuesday that it encourages people seeking its products to do so in a "safe and respectful" way.
"Consumer safety is of paramount important to us," Brian Facchini said in response to an AP request for comment. "We continue to work with our retail partners to share best practices and refine our launch process to improve the buying experience for our consumers."

**jhe90**

So one pulled a gun, tried to rob someone with said firearm and got shot when the victim had a ace up there sleeve and pulled a ccw on them.

The teen threatened someone's life, over shoes... Then got shot by there intended victim. Not feeling that bad for them, there choice, there bad luck.

**Soladrin**

All I can say is, his name was hilarious.

**SilverMK2**

If only people were as so keen to obtain fair working conditions and wages for those who make the goods they want to possess so much they are willing to kill and threaten to either get or retain them.

**LordofHats**

Soladrin wrote:
All I can say is, his name was hilarious.

I must admit. I read the name and instantly pictured Jabba the Hutt knocking some poor person over to take their shoes @_@

**AduroT**

LordofHats wrote:
Soladrin wrote:
All I can say is, his name was hilarious.

I must admit. I read the name and instantly pictured Jabba the Hutt knocking some poor person over to take their shoes @_@

I was imagining Jafar myself.

**LordofHats**

Well Jafar at the very least could use shoes...

**Howard A Treesong**

I'm glad the person was able to defend themselves from people trying to rob them. It's sad anyone had to die over a pair of shoes. It's also a shame that people apparently are justified in carrying a gun just to go shoe shopping in safety, but that's how it seems to be.

**Platuan4th**

I'm surprised this even made the news. Remember when Starter jackets were a thing? It was pretty common for people to get robbed of them while wearing them.

Perhaps I'm jaded from being raised in New Orleans, but clothes theft and violence associated with such is a pretty common occurrence.

**Soo'Vah'Cha**

Robbery is not news...robber being shot by victim of robbery is...robber teen makes it more..and finally concealed carry weapon makes it official..NEWSWORTHY!...

Next will be a spin to make people feel sorry for the robber..

**SlaveToDorkness**

Nothing sad about this at all. Good Riddance to bad rubbish. Let others take a lesson from it, if they can.

**Jihadin**

Damn.....thought getting killed over shoes was over and done with awhile ago.

**Medium of Death**

I'm glad this turned out the way it did. Hopefully this teaches a lesson to other parasites that would think of stealing.

**easysauce**

Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:
Robbery is not news...robber being shot by victim of robbery is...robber teen makes it more..and finally concealed carry weapon makes it official..NEWSWORTHY!...

Next will be a spin to make people feel sorry for the robber..

its already being spun that way,

the title of the thread is "teen killed over shoes"

as opposed to "robber with gun thwarted by law abiding citizen"

**Jihadin**

easysauce wrote:
Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:
Robbery is not news...robber being shot by victim of robbery is...robber teen makes it more..and finally concealed carry weapon makes it official..NEWSWORTHY!...

Next will be a spin to make people feel sorry for the robber..

its already being spun that way,

the title of the thread is "teen killed over shoes"

as opposed to "robber with gun thwarted by law abiding citizen"

"Teen Killed Over Shoes" is not new it just a reminder of the stupidity from the past rearing its ugly head
The label "Road Rage" is brought up time and again when we had a spate of that stupidity awhile back

**stanman**

For the record I was quoting what the situation was being billed as in the news, to illustrate the absurdity.

My personal take on it would have been "armed robber runs into justice"

**easysauce**

stanman wrote:
For the record I was quoting what the situation was being billed as in the news, to illustrate the absurdity.

My personal take on it would have been "armed robber runs into justice"

fair enough,

I think we both agree that a certain light/bias is always cast on these things unfortunately.

Its a very sad state of the media indeed.

**DarkLink**

Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:
Robbery is not news...robber being shot by victim of robbery is...robber teen makes it more..and finally concealed carry weapon makes it official..NEWSWORTHY!...

Next will be a spin to make people feel sorry for the robber..

Usually defensive use of a firearm only really seems to make news when it's a white guy shooting a black teenager...

**marv335**

Someone pulls a gun on a person with a concealed carry permit, then gets shot.
No sympathy.
Darwin strikes again.

**loki old fart**

stanman wrote:
For the record I was quoting what the situation was being billed as in the news, to illustrate the absurdity.

My personal take on it would have been "armed robber runs into justice"

Would that be running shoes then.

**stanman**

loki old fart wrote:
stanman wrote:
For the record I was quoting what the situation was being billed as in the news, to illustrate the absurdity.

My personal take on it would have been "armed robber runs into justice"

Would that be running shoes then.

Well played sir.

**Ahtman**

Jihadin wrote:
Damn.....thought getting killed over shoes was over and done with awhile ago.

Some people stopped being impulsive, greedy idiots somewhere and I wasn't told?

It is strange to me that there are people obsessed with shoes but then it is also strange to me that there are "limited edition" shoes to begin with. Of course I paint little plastic men so what do I know.

**Orlanth**

This story is double dose surreal.

I read Max Barry's Jennifer Government, and highly recommended.

In it some corporate suits from 'guerilla marketing' in Nike hire the NRA to shoot kids wearing a new style of Nike trainer in order to back a marketing campaign that their footwear is work killing/dying for.

**Relapse**

My question is, where is the community outrage over the elements that came together to make it worth a black teen to threaten murder and in turn be shot over a frikkin' pair of shoes?
Why aren't there protestors even at this moment decrying this waste of human life, or does there have have to be a cop involved as the catylist?

**Mr. Burning**

Relapse wrote:
My question is, where is the community outrage over the elements that came together to make it worth a black teen to threaten murder and in turn be shot over a frikkin' pair of shoes?
Why aren't there protestors even at this moment decrying this waste of human life, or does there have have to be a cop involved as the catylist?

The guys could have given their shoes to the promising young athlete who was robbing them.

'Hands Up! give them your possessions!'

is that what you wanted? 'Cause that is what will happen!

**SlaveToDorkness**

Because Black lives ended by Blacks don't matter.

Too long to put on a T-shirt I'm sure.

**ScootyPuffJunior**

SlaveToDorkness wrote:
Because Black lives ended by Blacks don't matter.

Too long to put on a T-shirt I'm sure.

Actually, they do matter to leaders in the black community. It's a topic that is addressed often during the various summits and rallies held in mainly large cities every year. Plus there is a whole catalog of music, movies, and sermons from a generation of musicians, filmmakers, and preachers that directly address the problems the black community face.

Just because you (and more specifically the news you watch/read) ignore what goes on in the black community doesn't mean the black community ignores it.

**NuggzTheNinja**

Title is midleading. Teen wasn't killed over shoes.

Title should read, "Violent armed robber killed during attempted robbery." He's the one who chose to find out the hard way that his life is worth less than a pair of shoes.

**Breotan**

NuggzTheNinja wrote:
Title is midleading. Teen wasn't killed over shoes.

Title should read, "Violent armed robber killed during attempted robbery." He's the one who chose to find out the hard way that his life is worth less than a pair of shoes.

I'm going to have to agree with Nuggz here. Having the title as is makes it seem that a teen was killed for his shoes and that isn't what the article describes.

**Jihadin**

Teen getting killed over a pair of Nike's is not new news in the US of A