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Let's imagine for a moment, that your codex was updated to be as strong as the Eldar dex. Which specific buffs would you like to see? New, exciting special rules, stat line increases, points drops etc etc?

Space Marine Centurions now can take drop pods as troop choices. Automatically have a 4+FNP

Sisters get Retributors (Heavy Weapons teams) where each individual sister can carry a Twin Linked Heavy Bolter, is relentless, has Objective Secured and has a 3+ cover save. 27p per model.

Their Act of Faith would be to give themselves AP2.

Nephilim jet fighter being useful! Deathwing terminators cheaper with a better statline! Azrael becoming a CC beast. Getting grav weapons!

But we all know the next DA codex will test some ideas for the SM one then get left in the dust. And black knights are going to get nerfed.

Ok Power creep lets see...... Here's a few similarly crazy ideas as the Eldar dex':
Space Marine Bikes suddenly become a troop choice all the time, and every bike can replace its twin-linked bolter a twin-linked assault cannon for 15pts each.

All drop pods allow you to assault from them turn 1.

An extra wound for every model in the codex.

Ironclad Dreadnoughts become a superheavy walker,

The Heldrake is going back to turret mode. The Baleflamer becomes D, AP2.

Oh, and it's now Heavy 3, and Torrent (18")

Just what CSM need.

DW terminators have T5 and 2 wounds, cost 25 ppm and can all take assault cannons or cyclone missile launchers (or any other heavy weapon)

RW plasma talons are now assault 4, 36" range. No points change for the black knights, plasma talon can be taken as a special weapon in tac or company veteran squads for 15 points.

Bolters have Shred and AP4.

Dreadnoughts are monstrous creatures, have 2+/4++ with some over-the-top statline. Base cost 120 pts, close combat attacks cause instant death.

The dakka banner now DOUBLES the amount of shots a weapon would normally have, works with all special/heavy weapons. 12" range.

Librarians can reroll failed psychic tests, can get ML 3 for additional +30 pts.

New chapter (legion) tactic: Plasma weapons don't have the gets hot special rule. Instead, all to hit rolls of 1 (or failed scatters) can be rerolled.

RW bikers cost 20 ppm, can take a special weapon for every squad member, including the sergeant. Can take plasma talon.

Power Field Generator range increased to 6", does not confer benefit to enemy units and instead they take an instant S3 AP- hit when they come inside the area covered by the field. Area inside the PFG counts as dangerous terrain for enemy units.

DA flyers become viable (yeah right, like that's going to happen)

 Ashiraya wrote:
The Heldrake is going back to turret mode. The Baleflamer becomes D, AP2.

Oh, and it's now Heavy 3, and Torrent (18")

Just what CSM need.

Woah woah woah, I think you're forgetting the 2pt strength D chainaxes for berserkers (a 5pt reduction on their base cost, while also gaining the ability to not get overwatched).

The new defiler with str D Apocalypse blast helscarydoom cannon as a 5 pt switch for the battlecannon.

Havoc launchers now fire six.....ty str 6 small blasts, remaining at same cost.

And chaos rhinos are scary and spiky, so gain I dunno gain assault vehicle, cause real fear checks that nobody can ignore for enemy units within 12inch and have their transport capacity increased to 20.

All Dark Eldar characters get access to WWPs for 10 pts.

Duke Sliscus is returned to them. His aerial assault rule now makes all vehicles Hard to Hit the turn they Deep Strike. He still gives the drug table reroll, but also gives all warriors, wracks, scourges, and grotesques the ability to purchase drugs for +2 pts/model.

Finally, they get a Composite Corpse Horror, a Frankenstein-esque monstrosity of titanic proportions. Gargantuan Monstrous creature, Lord of War, with either a D strength CC weapon (some kind of hook net) or a D strength template (uber Liquifier). FNP and IWND, of course.

Leman Russes now become a T10 MC and the Battlecannon/Vanquisher cannon becomes twin linked Strength D AP 1 +1 on damage table.

 TheCustomLime wrote:
Leman Russes now become a T10 MC and the Battlecannon/Vanquisher cannon becomes twin linked Strength D AP 1 +1 on damage table.

You mean it becomes a T10 3+ 6+artillery unit with 4 wounds and immunity to poison

Marbo returns.

He's BS/WS 5
Toughness 5
Strength 5
3 Wounds
5 Attacks
5+/5++ Feel No Pain
Eternal Warrior
Fearless

Wargear:
Ripper Pistol: Strength 5, AP 2, Poisoned (2+), Sniper
Demo Charge: Strength D

Special Rules:
"He's Behind You!" - Comes in from reserve automatically on any player's turn (player's choice), placed at least 1" from any enemy model. He can assault when arriving in this manner.
"Slice and Dice" - He can use his Ripper Pistol in close combat.
"Move through shadows" - He's got Stealth, Move Through Cover, Fleet, and he's considered a Jump/Jet Pack troop.
"Sabotage" - In Close Combat with a vehicle or building with hull points he automatically hits and causes 3 penetrating results with a +2 on the damage table. He cannot be hurt by the vehicle exploding (just leave him in place, but he's completely immune in any way to the results of a vehicle exploding that he caused).

New Space Marine special rule:

Auto Win. Cost: 10 ppm.
Effect: You automatically win.

 Mozzyfuzzy wrote:
Woah woah woah, I think you're forgetting the 2pt strength D chainaxes for berserkers (a 5pt reduction on their base cost, while also gaining the ability to not get overwatched).

The funny thing is that they'd still not be OP or even good, since they're T4 3+ infantry that must get into melee...

...Which they never do.

all jetbikes can have heavy weapons

wraith units all have D weapons

turn falcons into drop pods

oh yeah, actually that's happening

sorry couldn't resist

Daemons get a new unit which is $25 per model and costs 25 points each in game. You can field up to 50 in a single unit. They get the special rule Gargantuan Wealth. Any model with the GW special rule automatically generates one victory point and must spend the rest of the game granting stat and rule buffs to all units from Codex: CWE, SM, Necrons, and Tau. If none of these factions actually exist in the game, all GW models must instead attempt to extort currency from all opposing models while handing out stat and rule nerfs.

squidhills wrote:
New Space Marine special rule:

Auto Win. Cost: 10 ppm.
Effect: You automatically win.

love this have an exalt, still think they are overpriced

 RED EYE JEDI wrote:

squidhills wrote:
New Space Marine special rule:

Auto Win. Cost: 10 ppm.
Effect: You automatically win.

love this have an exalt, still think they are overpriced

Damn, I got scooped on my own joke

10 man tactical squads can all take flamers for free, Meltas for 5 pts per model, and plasma for 10 points per model.

Whirlwind gains D Large Blast.

Assault marines with Jump Packs can jump over fliers and FMC's and do 1d3 attacks per model that jumped over the flier.

Librarians can all gain Level 3 psychic, and may use any psychic table.

Devastators may all take heavy bolters for free, Missile Launchers for 5 pts, and assault cannons for 10 pts.

Any space wolf model may take the "of the wolf" saga for +5 pts.

For each "of the wolf" taken, the model gains +1 to all stats. Strength above 10 becomes D.

Each time a model with at least one "of the wolf" takes an action the full name of the model must be stated.

Movie Marines. That is all.

Tyranid monstrous creatures all have strength 9 toughness 9, except for Carnifex who gets a 10 in each. Every tyranid monstrous creature in reduced in cost by 75 points.

Riptide Heavy Burst Cannon to be buffed to Overcharge, Heavy 12 SD AP1, Fire Warriors reduced to 8ppm and given Long Barrelled Burst Cannons each, Crisis Suits, T5 and all weapon options reduced by 5ppm,

* Kroot have SD melee attacks just cus


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Riptide Heavy Burst Cannon to be buffed to Overcharge, Heavy 12 SD AP1, Fire Warriors reduced to 8ppm and given Long Barrelled Burst Cannons each, Crisis Suits, T5 and all weapon options reduced by 5ppm,

* Kroot have SD melee attacks just cus

khorne daemonkin-

possessed get two wounds, +1 attack, and add you can choose which buff they get on the table
berserkers- FnP base, +1 attack, on a roll of 6, get an extra attack, roll of 8 on charge: double attacks, chain axes base (probably still not up to eldar levels)
chaos lords- upgrade to chapter master equivalent.
Juggernaut- armorbane/fleshbane to hammer of wrath attack with some sort of ap

and probably lots more

Any Ork Mekboy can be upgraded to a Lootamek for 5 points.

A LootaMek may make a D6 roll to attempt to repair a vehicle wreck (regardless of prior owner) during the shooting phase. On a 5+, remove the Lootamek and return the vehicle to play under the Ork player's control, with BS2 and D3 hullpoints, up to the vehicle's starting amount.

Bubble Chukkas leave an AV12 dome wherever they leave a large blast. Any model that wishes to shoot into, out of, or through the dome, or move into or out of the dome, must first penetrate this dome. So you could fire the Chukka at a Riptide...

Battlewagons get twin-linked weapons, can replace any or all turrets with Mek Guns.

..........space marines all get auto cannons for free And relentless.
Centurions be come gargantuan creatures.
all suits get missle pod for free and go too strong 10 assault ten.

Grey Knights:
- DK's receive +1 wound and base 4++
- All TDA units get +1 toughness and +1 wound
- Psycannons get 36" range
- (Super hilarious) Any unit can charge the turn they arrive from deep strike if using nemesis strike force.

Blood Angels:
- All furioso/DC/Libby dreads drop 30 points
- Death Company get +1 WS and +1 toughness
- Tac squads can take special + heavy weapon in a 5 man squad
- (I'm a jerk) Dante becomes an HQ choice
- (I'm a huge jerk) Baal strike force bonuses work 100% of the time, not just on a charge
- (Haha... ha!) "We can travel through space but can't accurately land a drop pod" special rule: For 25 points you can charge from a drop pod the turn it comes in
- (Why not?!) Mepphy gets a 4++

I could almost see something crazy happening to the defiler, like super heavy walker with D blast.

Chaos marines automatically regroup and also get special rules based on which legion they descend from, all for ~1ppm.... lawl

Manticores fire D6 Strength D AP1 +1 damage Large Blasts per turn at 125 ppm, but ammunition is limited to 4 turns worth of firing so it's not broken.

This thread has so much win lol.