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Soo'Vah'Cha wrote: Well this seals the deal Dread knight will become....

the Dred mek pirate Roberts!

Can't wait, I may even make a new Ghazgul from a dread knight...hmmmmm

Like this?

Come on. Please stop re-posting that crap or atleast make the picture a link.

Griever wrote:I don't like them, why does that upset you?

You liking them doesn't upset me.

It doesn't upset me that you don't like them, if you have a solid reason for disliking them. I just get the impression that people hate on new stuff 'just 'cause' rather than for any actual reason. GW release something, and its a perfect excuse to renew the bashing over prices and design decisions and Matt Ward etc etc.

The Dreadknight I expected to get a backlash, it's aesthetic is a massive departure from where GKs were in the past; but the rest of the models are kind of sweet, especially as they do not look hugely different from the original metal models.

L. Wrex

@Lord Scythican : how do you do that so fast...are you a wizard?

honestly I need you to do my taxes, and get my return that fast.

but thats awesome...you see we have found a use for this ugly duckling.

I like the whinning that Tyranids are broken now, before anyone played a game or knows the point costs.

The new blog is up, with some better pics and a 3d spin of the Dreadknight:

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/blogPost.jsp?aId=15900001a

Lycaeus Wrex wrote:

It doesn't upset me that you don't like them, if you have a solid reason for disliking them. I just get the impression that people hate on new stuff 'just 'cause' rather than for any actual reason. GW release something, and its a perfect excuse to renew the bashing over prices and design decisions and Matt Ward etc etc.

The Dreadknight I expected to get a backlash, it's aesthetic is a massive departure from where GKs were in the past; but the rest of the models are kind of sweet, especially as they do not look hugely different from the original metal models.

L. Wrex

I actually Do like all the infantry models (just not feeling the "Dreadful Knight "); I'm not interested in playing Gk again at all, but still...

Lord Scythican wrote:
And Ghazzy he shall be named!

/Snip/ Photo of Freeboota Ork Walker with a generous dollop of awesomesauce /snip/

I <3 you and your photoshop skillz!

So excited now to do my Dred / Megadred conversion!

AgeOfEgos wrote:I think the Dread Knight looks terrific, in true over the top 40k fashion.

My thoughts exactly, seems a lot of people are split on it but it's got my thumbs up!

I am particularly pleased with the fact they chose to make it like an exoskeleton with the guy harnessed in the front, very cool.

The price for the PAGK seem a bit steep too me but I ain't gonna collect them anyways so it don't really matter to me.

I'm sorry, the DK is just ass.. What are the stats? T7? All it would take would be 1 sniper to off the driver in reality since he's just hanging out there like some chubby guy overflowing the seat on a rollercoaster.

If I get a Dreadknight, I'm going to armor up the front. The way he sits is like Patlabor's Ingram 98's, but needs to be inclosed more.

TBD wrote:Damn, people always seem to want to find reasons to not like something. If you don't like it, don't buy it.

As far as I'm concerned all of it is fething awesome and full of extra bits to convert other (Marine) stuff with. This will be an expensive (though long anticipated) release for me.

Those of us that have been playing Grey Knights for awhile, have fair reason to be disappointed.
I wanted them to update Grey Knights, not make them "the new broken onez!"

I don't really like any of it, to be honest. The terminator box is probably the nicest of the whole thing. I'm sure that will be the main seller (despite being 50$). Dreadknight is an embarrassment to 40k, in my opinion. I've been looking at long-leg dreads for a long time, and I've always found something 'wrong' with them. This one is no exception.

Same boring marines.....different helmets.

However, most of my dislike of these has to do with my love of the ruinous powers, so consider me biased

Dreadknight -
Not for me... baby strap up front is an image I can't get out of my head. Overall execution is lacking for me and too far from typical Imperial bots. Too spindly, too anthropomorphic, too light looking. Doomfists look... well like regular pa fists lol.

Other kits -
Not bad, but not too impressive either. The only thing I really dislike is the sickle clip on the SB's, I know they cannot really make a dynamic beltfeed and still have them posable, but the SB now just looks like a giant pile of clunk to me.

Teleport backpacks look straight up crap. They shoulda went with the DOW style.

Helmets look a little dissapoint, not enough variety for me, and design wise I would have liked something a bit newer, the shaved regular termie head look was lacking the second people started doing it with the plastic terms when they first came out. I think it would have been really cool to have them with visor slits instead of lenses, could have been a really distinctive touch for the design vs other PA, and fit well with the Knight theme.

All IMO.

That being said, there is plenty of good stuff to be had, and I am pretty sure some of the communities versions of these guys will blow us away. Lots of cool bits too!

Kanluwen wrote:

I'm sorry, you must have missed where this is an Imperial piece of tech. This isn't the Tau, who are "constantly producing newer and better variations on their previous technology".

This isn't even the Adeptus Mechanicus or Dark Mechanicus, who would likely graft a servitor/daemonic intelligence into this monstrosity.

Its a major misunderstanding to think there is no technological advancement in the Imperium.
And inventions of the Mechanicus are most not fielded by the Mechanicus but mainly by Astartes, Inquisition, and other armed forces.

Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:@Lord Scythican : how do you do that so fast...are you a wizard?

honestly I need you to do my taxes, and get my return that fast.

but thats awesome...you see we have found a use for this ugly duckling.

I made it about 6 pages ago. I reposted it so you could see it. I should have made it a link though. Therion really hates the idea.

@Gymnogyps: Thanks! I am glad some people like it.

The comparison shot between the DK and the Daemon Prince is awesome.

I know that I'd rather be in one of those if facing down a DP.

edit: That Daemonhammer looks huge! I think the other pic was just a bad angle.

Ten a penny, but here's an approximation of what I hope to do with the dreadknight while keeping it as simple as possible.

In Paint, all my dreams come true:

What are the multi-barreled heavy weapons on PAGK and GKT? Are those the psycannons now? They look far less cool than they used to.

Doesn't feel anime enough, can we get some flashing red and blue colors in the background?

This is what I see when I look at it

pretre wrote:The comparison shot between the DK and the Daemon Prince is awesome.

I know that I'd rather be in one of those if facing down a DP.

edit: That Daemonhammer looks huge! I think the other pic was just a bad angle.

It is massive! I didn't realize it was that big!

maybe someone could post all the official new pics on page 1? OP are you there?

Here are some better pics of the sprues, and the 3d spinaround of the Dreadknight.

The crispness of the models is really good!

I think the dreadknight would look much better if only the head was showing like on a normal dreadnought. Everything else looks fine though.

It appears you can make more grey knights than anticipated

from first glance:
PAGK:
Legs 5
shoulderpads 12
Torso 5
Backpack 5
Porter Backpack 5
Helmets 5

Wristless arms: 12
Sidehandle arms 4

shortswords 6
1h greatsword 1
2h greatsword 3
Head Greatsword 1
Stave 1
Daemonhammer 1
Halbard 3
stormbolter arms 8
stormbolter mag 5

the GK termies come with 1 extra set of shoulders as well.

so if you use the extra termie shoulders on a judicar, you have 2 extra sets of PAGK shoulders and 2 extra special weapons. Trim down the extra backpacks and use standard space marine bodies (since they will be covered by giant gun anyway) and you have 2 more grey knights minus the heads which can possibly be sourced from the terminator sprue (i'm thinking the helmet-less ones)

so as long as you have a few space marines kicking around you get roughly 2 extra bodies for each terminator+pagk box you pick up

now putting the Ven Dred Sarcophagus over the pilot looks really cool.


regardless, i probably won't get one as i plan on doing a Stormraven "the sky is falling" list

Terminator troops and GK Strike Squads(Teliporter dudes) in Stormravens.

Mattlov wrote:What are the multi-barreled heavy weapons on PAGK and GKT? Are those the psycannons now? They look far less cool than they used to.

Psilencers.