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I personally like all the models. They look sleek, athletic, dynamic and just all-round cool. The only thing I'm not a fan of is the tesla-coil-things on the back of the PAGKs but hey I can use Rhinos so won't bother gluing them on.

The Dreadknight? Meh. If I make an army I won't be using one (too expensive to buy/store) but if I see one across the table from me I'm not exactly going to recoil in horror.

I don't quite know what GW need to do to assuage the sheer volume of vitriol that spills forth whenever they put a new release out, I really don't. They can't do right from wrong, and even if they *do* release awesome models I'm sure people would find something to complain about.

Whatever, as with most new releases I don't care what other people's opinions are so long as I like them. And I kind of do!

L. Wrex

$33 for 5 PLASTIC MINIS!?

The Dread is terribly constructed and the new Termis (while nice) aren't really better or worse than the old ones.

No, sorry, I'm glad I'm getting out of GW. Their pricing is just getting ridiculous. Remember when they switched to plastic minis "to reduce prices"? LOL.

I think the Dread Knight looks terrific, in true over the top 40k fashion. I'll be getting them!

I see some nice bits for my Custodes as well, specifically the way the halberds are positioned.

Kanluwen wrote:

pretre wrote:

asmith wrote:Aside from not matching any aesthetic in 40k, the dreadknight just doesn't make any sense. Why would a guy who was already inside a powered suit wear an even larger powered suit on top of that?

Did you read about it? What is the chance that a Term Arm model will win against a Blood Thirster? Okay, now what is the chance that an armor with a 2+/4+, S10 Daemonhammer and 4 wounds will win against a Blood Thirster? Ohhh, now we get it.

What is the chance that a Terminator equipped model will win against a Bloodthirster?

A pretty damned good one, considering the Grey Knights did it once on Armageddon. 100 Grey Knights fighting against dozens of Bloodthirsters, hordes of Bloodletters, and a freaking Daemon Primarch(Angron)--and the Grey Knights won.

Then, it happened again in Imperial Armour volume 7--when an Inquisitor wearing Terminator Armour killed a Bloodthirster who is supposedly one of Khorne's favored warriors.

So yeah. The Dreadknight is unnecessary.

As a potential scenario: Regular Grey Knight in power armor, armed with a Nemesis Warding Stave, is charged by a Bloodthirster. There is a chance he would kill it if the following occurs:

-Bloodthirster either misses a few attacks or wounds (not impossible)
-Any wounds would be passed on a 2++ (Far less impossible)
-Grey Knight hits the Bloodthirster (5+ rerollable thanks to PE: Daemons), wounds it (on a 6+/5+ with Hammerhand/4+ if Mind Blades was used, etc.), and the Bloodthirster fails his 2++
-Grey Knight passes his Psychic test to cause Instant Death, and with rumor being that NFW ignore EW for Daemons, it's possible.

So it's entirely possible, and far more likely against non-Khorne daemons and with better version of that Grey Knight.

So the Dreadknight is unneccessary both in the fluff and the rules. It's also dumb.

CT GAMER wrote:

Amaya wrote:And somehow the Nemesis Dreadnaught is worse than the Stormraven.

GJ GW!

it is almost like GW said "okay f*ckers you think the Storm raven is too blocky? Ok here is a nice bubbly, rounded piece of feth for you..."

And you know, the worst part is--I like the Stormraven. It fits the SM/Imperial aesthetic, and what's more--it doesn't look like someone got a design artist drunk, showed him a bunch of mecha from crappy Hollywood films and then told him to "grimdark it up".

No, scratch that. The Marauders from Starship Troopers 3?
Better than this crapfest of a "battle armor".

andrewm9 wrote:Well I heard that Grey Knights woudl adding things from WH liek Arco-flagellants I just didn't believe it. Its like they stole half the models fromt eh current WH line and added it to the Grey Knights becuase they couldn't come up with anythign else. Its sad and annoying really. I'm speaking of priests, 1 of the 2 special characters, all the WH Inquisitor models, and arco-flagellants. What's up with that?

Rumours are that grey Knights get all the old recycled Inquisition stuff, so that Sororitas can get all the new exciting Ecclesiarchy stuff

One point why the Dreadknight looks wrong is because the Grey Knights are themed around ... Knights, not sleek modern looking power loaders. So a walker should have looked medieval and blocky, maybe inspired by the Imperator Titan:

I don't like the nemesis dred, it looks pretty bad, and the termies i think are worse, every time i look at them something seems very wrong with them!

The standard Gk thou look pretty cool to me, I don't know what exactly I like, I love the dead demon parts, and some of the weapons. They aren't great, but I think they are pretty good, and if you have enough marine parts you could prob make some cool conversions.


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I def agree with KrootHawk as well!

This is what I intend to do with my DK when it arrives. Masamune Shirow's landmates got it right in terms of looks so I intend to copy that. Shouldn't be hard.

Is it to early to be contemplating looting a GK dreadknight for my Ork horde...

Turn this


into this...


I think this may have potential

His Master's Voice wrote:This is what I intend to do with my DK when it arrives. Masamune Shirow's landmates got it right in terms of looks so I intend to copy that. Shouldn't be hard.

I like the idea but from that picture it must be a Giraffe piloting it .

His Master's Voice wrote:This is what I intend to do with my DK when it arrives. Masamune Shirow's landmates got it right in terms of looks so I intend to copy that. Shouldn't be hard.

Better, but it must hurt to get your head pulled off every time you get in...

Edit: Shakes fist at AgeOfEgos...

Lycaeus Wrex wrote:
I don't quite know what GW need to do to assuage the sheer volume of vitriol that spills forth whenever they put a new release out, I really don't. They can't do right from wrong, and even if they *do* release awesome models I'm sure people would find something to complain about.

Whatever, as with most new releases I don't care what other people's opinions are so long as I like them. And I kind of do!

L. Wrex

GW don't have to do anything more than what they already do. Let's not forget that this is a discussion forum, and while there will be people like yourself who like the models, there will just as likely be people like me ho don't. I guess I equally don't care about other peoples opinions and will NOT be buying the miniatures, but......I'm happy for you if you feel you're getting value for money and enjoy playing and painting your new army.

We all had expectations for the GKs, and given how (relatively) good the Dark Eldar turned out, I think it was justified to expect a significant improvement of miniature for the GKs.....for me, they haven't delivered.

I'll wait with baited breath to see what they do with Necrons and Sororitas armies, but I won't be surprised if they fall short of my expectations in these areas also........for me, it's what GW do best

Lycaeus Wrex wrote:I personally like all the models. They look sleek, athletic, dynamic and just all-round cool. The only thing I'm not a fan of is the tesla-coil-things on the back of the PAGKs but hey I can use Rhinos so won't bother gluing them on.

The Dreadknight? Meh. If I make an army I won't be using one (too expensive to buy/store) but if I see one across the table from me I'm not exactly going to recoil in horror.

I don't quite know what GW need to do to assuage the sheer volume of vitriol that spills forth whenever they put a new release out, I really don't. They can't do right from wrong, and even if they *do* release awesome models I'm sure people would find something to complain about.

Whatever, as with most new releases I don't care what other people's opinions are so long as I like them. And I kind of do!

L. Wrex

I don't like them, why does that upset you?

You liking them doesn't upset me.

One thing that does upset me: The increased traffic has reduced the GW site to Dial-Up loading speeds.

Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:Is it to early to be contemplating looting a GK dreadknight for my Ork horde...

I think this may have potential

I think so too!

AgeOfEgos wrote:

His Master's Voice wrote:This is what I intend to do with my DK when it arrives. Masamune Shirow's landmates got it right in terms of looks so I intend to copy that. Shouldn't be hard.

I like the idea but from that picture it must be a Giraffe piloting it .

You miss the point. The head on top is just a camera housing, the actual pilots head is safely tucked away behind the armor plate I added where the head was positioned originally. Google Appleseed to get a better idea of how it could potentially work.

That is actually a improvement, it goes to show ya..Orks do it up best !

Miraclefish wrote:The Dreadknight looks like someone got the old Aliens Combat Power Loader toy and spraypainted it with a can of car paint...

I made this point waaaay back when all we had was a fuzzy picture from the internets.

Lord Scythican wrote:

Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:Is it to early to be contemplating looting a GK dreadknight for my Ork horde...

I think this may have potential

I think so too!

This is mega win. This thing looks much more Orky than Space Marine.

Really want to start a dread mob now!

His Master's Voice wrote:
You miss the point. The head on top is just a camera housing, the actual pilots head is safely tucked away behind the armor plate I added where the head was positioned originally. Google Appleseed to get a better idea of how it could potentially work.

Even if that is the point, no one is going to miss that he looks like E.T. even if appleseed has similar stuff.


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@Soo'Vah'Cha: Thanks! You should make one too!

@Griever: Yeah, I think it would be a fun project. I can't wait.

Now he looks like and ET? Come on, people...

Lycaeus Wrex wrote:I don't quite know what GW need to do to assuage the sheer volume of vitriol that spills forth whenever they put a new release out, I really don't. They can't do right from wrong, and even if they *do* release awesome models I'm sure people would find something to complain about.

You're mixing up "can't" and "won't". The PAGKs could have been vastly improved just by putting the basic bodies on one sprue and the heavy weapons on the other. That way, you can use two of Sprue A and one of Sprue B for a Strike Squad, one of Sprue A and two of Sprue B for a Purgation Squad, and two of each for a Purifier Squad.

His Master's Voice wrote:Now he looks like and ET? Come on, people...

At least you are being good natured about it. I think it will work, but I wouldn't use a grey knight helmet. How about one of those camera looking boxes on top of the razorback?

I don't hate the Dread Knight as much as I expected to, as a model, but I agree with others that it just doesn't fit any conception I have of the GK aesthetic. If I include any in my army, they'll be based around heavily converted dreads, which I've always liked the look of anyway... or maybe based around daemons (think, daemonhost on steroids).

Everything else looks excellent.

Every time I look at a picture of the DKs I think of:



I wonder if instead of AEGIS and TERRA on the knee pads, I can make them say BABY and BJORN.

Yes ET and giraffe's both have long necks. that is what it will look like. You just have to change the head into something that looks more like a camera housing.

I'm glad to see the Terminators and PAGK's look like the old metal models - because I like the metal models. Particularly the terminators, I was worried they would look like crap.

I can't like the dreadknight though. I keep thinking a greater demon should just blast the pilot and shut the whole thing down since he's out in the open (with no helmet to boot)!

Also, I'm just not a huge fan of giant robots in general. It took me a long time to like Battletech, and the dreadknight looks much more anime than BT, which is a huge downside for me.

Well this seals the deal Dread knight will become....

the Dred mek pirate Roberts!

Can't wait, I may even make a new Ghazgul from a dread knight...hmmmmm

He looks like an E-frame from Exo Squad- but if his belly knight bothers you, go ahead and leave it off. This model remains a glorious testament to late 80s early 90s American mecha thought. I have no problem with this. How are people planning to show its jump modification?

I have a crazy pipe dream about mating a landspeeder to it and creating a LAM/Veritech style half flyer. It would be unspeakably awesome. One of these days I'll have the time and money to pursue such crazy projects again. Until then, I throw it out there for anyone else to build or photoshop.

asmith wrote:Yes ET and giraffe's both have long necks. that is what it will look like. You just have to change the head into something that looks more like a camera housing.

Maybe use the thing on top of the turret. It would actually serve the same purpose.

Kanluwen wrote:

CT GAMER wrote:

Amaya wrote:And somehow the Nemesis Dreadnaught is worse than the Stormraven.

GJ GW!

it is almost like GW said "okay f*ckers you think the Storm raven is too blocky? Ok here is a nice bubbly, rounded piece of feth for you..."

And you know, the worst part is--I like the Stormraven. It fits the SM/Imperial aesthetic, and what's more--it doesn't look like someone got a design artist drunk, showed him a bunch of mecha from crappy Hollywood films and then told him to "grimdark it up".

No, scratch that. The Marauders from Starship Troopers 3?
Better than this crapfest of a "battle armor".

I love the Storm Raven as well. In fact I really wish my son's Ultramarines could use it, so I could buy one (or three).

As to your other point, I thnk he forgot the "grimdark it up" part. i think the Throne of Judgement would have been a good base to work from tbh...