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Nice, no more double turn Seraphon. I play Seraphon and that was abusive.

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I love how pretty much everyone has enormous stakes and it's all important, glorious and epic! ... and then you read Ironjawz's:

The Ironjawz, Greenskinz and Grots
The lads are very excited. All the ‘umies look like they’re preparing for a Waaagh! or somethin’ – and according to the Fungoid Cave-Shamans (and who’d doubt them?) they all seem to be headed to the same place to fight it out against the dead. This is going to be the best scrap since the Realmgate Wars! Hopefully, even Gordrakk shows up!


Gods, I love Ironjawz

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 Kanluwen wrote:
 Geifer wrote:

Well, yeah. I'm not saying it's not disappointing (for those who like Tzeentch). Just guessing as to why it went down the way it did. Of those three armies, I would put Tzeentch down as the one that's the least priority for GW. They obviously want to sell Sigmarines and while people have been pretty positive about the Tzeentch models, I think the dwarfs received more attention overall. That's just my impression, though. I look at the Start Collecting boxes as filler and assume they just don't want to release too many at the same time.

But of course, who knows with GW?

The issue with your theory is that Vanguard Stormcast? They're effectively treated as a 'separate army' at this point. They're in the same book as regular Stormcast, but their range and numbers required is way different to a normal Stormcast army. They're also considered fairly expensive in terms of cash for what they are. I know that I had a really hard time finding someone willing to split a Blight Wars with me so I could get the Vanguard half(before the big Vanguard box came out). Previous starter sets or things of that nature? I've been able to split multiple boxes with people and build entire damn armies. Nobody wanted to go in on this one since they all wanted to grab the Vanguard half as well since it was discounted.

It's also hilarious that they have put Gryph-Hounds into both bundle boxes for the Vanguard when they can't even take Gryph-Hounds as part of their Path to Glory rolls.

The Retinue Followers Table?
D6 Strike Chamber Vanguard Auxiliary
1 Gryph-Hounds Aetherwings
2-4 Liberators Aetherwings
3 ^ Hunters
4 ^^ Hunters
5-6 Prosecutors Hunters



As it stands, I really am thinking that the reason for no Arcanites box yet is to tie it in with the Thousand Sons release.

I'm going to revise my guess a bit as well.

1x Shaman
2x Tzaangors boxes
1x Mutalith Vortex


Ultramarines and Space Wolves, Sigmarines and sneaky Sigmarines - all the same to me. It's GW's darlings and they want to sell them above anything else. That's my perspective. You may have a valid point about organization and perceived value on part of the customers, but none of that enters my equation.

When do you expect that box to tie in with Thousand Sons? They get a codex in a couple of days and that's that release. That's all the support I'd expect them to get, just like every other book only codex. If there was a time for a Tzeentch start collection, it's now.


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 TheDraconicLord wrote:


I love how pretty much everyone has enormous stakes and it's all important, glorious and epic! ... and then you read Ironjawz's:

The Ironjawz, Greenskinz and Grots
The lads are very excited. All the ‘umies look like they’re preparing for a Waaagh! or somethin’ – and according to the Fungoid Cave-Shamans (and who’d doubt them?) they all seem to be headed to the same place to fight it out against the dead. This is going to be the best scrap since the Realmgate Wars! Hopefully, even Gordrakk shows up!


Gods, I love Ironjawz


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It's a shame there was no mention of Morathi or the Daughters there. Obviously a couple more months to go before a release if they're not getting directly tied into the event yet.
   
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 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
It's a shame there was no mention of Morathi or the Daughters there. Obviously a couple more months to go before a release if they're not getting directly tied into the event yet.


They're an order faction. They'll be out in march.
   
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 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
It's a shame there was no mention of Morathi or the Daughters there. Obviously a couple more months to go before a release if they're not getting directly tied into the event yet.


Considering what happend in the "watchers" videos I suspect Morathi knows more than most about what Nagash is up to. She's probably biding her time so she can arrive at the best moment to earn the gratitude of the other Order factions.
   
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Good FAQs so far. Glad to see that Seraphon battalion re done since it was a literally unplayable before.

New models look cool, but will wait until get get full views to really see.

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Well, the new dice look awesome. Couldn’t resist and grabbed Nagash omnibus as well

   
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New short story is up on Malign Portents.

Very atmospheric!

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
New short story is up on Malign Portents.

Very atmospheric!


*Crosses fingers for impractically vast cogfort model one day in the future*
   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
New short story is up on Malign Portents.

Very atmospheric!

Yeah, but stories like these (and the chaos spanking in 40K) make you think what is really the point of mortal normal men in both settings. If a vast mobile fort that supposedly crushes armies of chaos like chaff can be effortlessly destroyed by a single undead despite having spellcasters of their own aboard for protection, why bother? Yes, yes, I know TT =/= Fluff, but how hard writing fluffy pieces that match game a bit more closely and don't make half of the armies in the game look pathetic can be?

Also, I am the only one that finds the fact that somehow no one was around the boilers and doors in order for the crew to to suddenly and dramatically find them rusted through kind of dumb?
   
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 Irbis wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
New short story is up on Malign Portents.

Very atmospheric!

Yeah, but stories like these (and the chaos spanking in 40K) make you think what is really the point of mortal normal men in both settings. If a vast mobile fort that supposedly crushes armies of chaos like chaff can be effortlessly destroyed by a single undead despite having spellcasters of their own aboard for protection, why bother? Yes, yes, I know TT =/= Fluff, but how hard writing fluffy pieces that match game a bit more closely and don't make half of the armies in the game look pathetic can be?

Also, I am the only one that finds the fact that somehow no one was around the boilers and doors in order for the crew to to suddenly and dramatically find them rusted through kind of dumb?


It was sudden because it's magic and of course they had people around. How else do you think they found out what had happened?
   
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From what I gather the fort was stationary, thus there was no need for people in the boilers room, as "normally" they would be either unlit or kept at the lowest temperatue possible, since the Cogfort wasn't moving.

Regarding the fact a single undead was able to vanquish a whole fort, well, I'd say the fact they were a mile from a Realmgate would have been reason for that.

If the wind of death itself was flowing from that realmgate it'd surely be enough to age the metal and the crew of the fort.

Let's remember one of the old spells Vampire Counts had was more or less an accelerated aging, which if I reckon was used against askaven by a Strigoi, and it caused the assassin to age of decades in few seconds. It's not that weird to assume that the effect of the wind was the same, and that the undead was simply an herald or messenger of Nagash.
   
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Thommy H wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
New short story is up on Malign Portents.

Very atmospheric!


*Crosses fingers for impractically vast cogfort model one day in the future*


Oh YES ! This story was awesome, building on fluff from WHQ : Shadow Over Hammerhal and Firestorm. Really good.

Also - we don't know yet if this "Death gale" they mention isn't a tabletop-usable abilitiy from the Malign Portents book (like a 40k Stratagem or something). It's really cool.

Anyway I can't wait next week to get my hands on LoN and MP !

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JSG wrote:
 Irbis wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
New short story is up on Malign Portents.

Very atmospheric!

Yeah, but stories like these (and the chaos spanking in 40K) make you think what is really the point of mortal normal men in both settings. If a vast mobile fort that supposedly crushes armies of chaos like chaff can be effortlessly destroyed by a single undead despite having spellcasters of their own aboard for protection, why bother? Yes, yes, I know TT =/= Fluff, but how hard writing fluffy pieces that match game a bit more closely and don't make half of the armies in the game look pathetic can be?

Also, I am the only one that finds the fact that somehow no one was around the boilers and doors in order for the crew to to suddenly and dramatically find them rusted through kind of dumb?


It was sudden because it's magic and of course they had people around. How else do you think they found out what had happened?


"Because its magic" is basically the rationale in the absolute worst written sci-fi/fantasy books. It's been said countless times across history but internal consistency is the most important thing in these settings. Without that all you have are comic books, which I guess some people enjoy but wasn't what GW fluff was modeled after.

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 Kirasu wrote:
JSG wrote:
 Irbis wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
New short story is up on Malign Portents.

Very atmospheric!

Yeah, but stories like these (and the chaos spanking in 40K) make you think what is really the point of mortal normal men in both settings. If a vast mobile fort that supposedly crushes armies of chaos like chaff can be effortlessly destroyed by a single undead despite having spellcasters of their own aboard for protection, why bother? Yes, yes, I know TT =/= Fluff, but how hard writing fluffy pieces that match game a bit more closely and don't make half of the armies in the game look pathetic can be?

Also, I am the only one that finds the fact that somehow no one was around the boilers and doors in order for the crew to to suddenly and dramatically find them rusted through kind of dumb?


It was sudden because it's magic and of course they had people around. How else do you think they found out what had happened?


"Because its magic" is basically the rationale in the absolute worst written sci-fi/fantasy books. It's been said countless times across history but internal consistency is the most important thing in these settings. Without that all you have are comic books, which I guess some people enjoy but wasn't what GW fluff was modeled after.


It was literally magic that caused the accelerated rusting and filled the boilers with ash.
   
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First Legion of Nagash article:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/01/30/legions-nagash-grand-host-nagash-new-summoninggw-homepage-post-2/


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That's really rather fun!

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With the mention of "Gravesites" in that article...I wonder if that's what the gibbets/gallows-ish preview we got today for the Rumor Engine is?

I could see them adding a small little $30 "Gravesite" thing like the Gnarlmaws that Maggotkin just got.
   
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Death is getting two magical lores, which is nice because thus Nagash can use his full allotment of spells without choking the other guys' output too much.
   
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The 35US$ price really turn me away from buying any of the Harbinger. Feel like i'm paying extra 5-10$ for the extra large box.
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
With the mention of "Gravesites" in that article...I wonder if that's what the gibbets/gallows-ish preview we got today for the Rumor Engine is?

I could see them adding a small little $30 "Gravesite" thing like the Gnarlmaws that Maggotkin just got.


Its certainly possible. Although if it is something that requires a model its IMO more likely that it will be a new use for the Garden of Morr or some of its components. Just like the Sylvaneth Wyldwood and the Citadel wood.
   
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 Kirasu wrote:
JSG wrote:
 Irbis wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
New short story is up on Malign Portents.

Very atmospheric!

Yeah, but stories like these (and the chaos spanking in 40K) make you think what is really the point of mortal normal men in both settings. If a vast mobile fort that supposedly crushes armies of chaos like chaff can be effortlessly destroyed by a single undead despite having spellcasters of their own aboard for protection, why bother? Yes, yes, I know TT =/= Fluff, but how hard writing fluffy pieces that match game a bit more closely and don't make half of the armies in the game look pathetic can be?

Also, I am the only one that finds the fact that somehow no one was around the boilers and doors in order for the crew to to suddenly and dramatically find them rusted through kind of dumb?


It was sudden because it's magic and of course they had people around. How else do you think they found out what had happened?


"Because its magic" is basically the rationale in the absolute worst written sci-fi/fantasy books. It's been said countless times across history but internal consistency is the most important thing in these settings. Without that all you have are comic books, which I guess some people enjoy but wasn't what GW fluff was modeled after.


...are you in the wrong forum or what? Like...this is Sigmar, magic is pretty mundane in Sigmar and the faction of death and decay having magic that makes death and decay happen faster seems pretty internally consistent to me.

How are you mad about EVERYTHING?

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Chopstick wrote:
The 35US$ price really turn me away from buying any of the Harbinger. Feel like i'm paying extra 5-10$ for the extra large box.


It's the same price as every other single-sprue named model released in the last three years. How is this a surprise to anyone at this point? And if you're planning on saying "doesn't mean I have to like it", it also doesn't mean you have to buy it, nor does it mean you have to post this same comment after every single-sprue named model is announced at $35.

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I like 3/4 of them. Wish there was a bundle for all of them that saved me the cost of 1.5 or something Oh well. I'll definitely get the warqueen (cause pretty) and the death dude (cause awesome).

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 Hulksmash wrote:
I like 3/4 of them. Wish there was a bundle for all of them that saved me the cost of 1.5 or something Oh well. I'll definitely get the warqueen (cause pretty) and the death dude (cause awesome).


Pretty much the same exact reasons for the same exact models. The Goblin will be because I have Ironjawz, so, might as well

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GoatboyBeta wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
With the mention of "Gravesites" in that article...I wonder if that's what the gibbets/gallows-ish preview we got today for the Rumor Engine is?

I could see them adding a small little $30 "Gravesite" thing like the Gnarlmaws that Maggotkin just got.


Its certainly possible. Although if it is something that requires a model its IMO more likely that it will be a new use for the Garden of Morr or some of its components. Just like the Sylvaneth Wyldwood and the Citadel wood.


While I really hope there is a cool set of Gravesites coming, the new WD has the description for the Warscroll cards for LoN which contain cardboard coffin tokens to mark Gravesites. So realistically, I'm not expecting anything.



 
   
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 EnTyme wrote:
Chopstick wrote:
The 35US$ price really turn me away from buying any of the Harbinger. Feel like i'm paying extra 5-10$ for the extra large box.


It's the same price as every other single-sprue named model released in the last three years. How is this a surprise to anyone at this point? And if you're planning on saying "doesn't mean I have to like it", it also doesn't mean you have to buy it, nor does it mean you have to post this same comment after every single-sprue named model is announced at $35.
Aside from the ones that weren't, of course.

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 Kanluwen wrote:


As it stands, I really am thinking that the reason for no Arcanites box yet is to tie it in with the Thousand Sons release.

I'm going to revise my guess a bit as well.

1x Shaman
2x Tzaangors boxes
1x Mutalith Vortex


Shaman, Skyfires, Tzaangors and it's a minimum one box probably at least 2 from me. This box I don't think I'd even get the one. Fingers crossed your first guess was on the money!
   
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It's strange reading the complaints about the offer story. The spell was curse of years, ripped straight out of the game. The figure on the steed was probably Arkhan the black (curse of years is his spell), a character more than powerful enough to destroy a cog fort.
I hope these stories continue all year. I have really been enjoying them.
   
 
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