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zamerion wrote:
I'm glad that there are still people with hope.


its not so much im hopeful I just see a few different avenues GW could go down

1.secret hidden wave next week
2.the warcry kits are like necromunda ones and can do 10 customisable dudes who also have aos rules
3.Slaves to darkness is being redone with unique kits to all the gods and they just moved the mortal units there

Im holding off doom and gloom to see what comes from warhammerfest
2-3 could honestly be combined with warcry warbands forming your battle line of chioce then adding on elements from slaves to darkness to bulk them out with some themed units and generic ones
   
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zamerion wrote:
I'm glad that there are still people with hope.

Not really hope, I just realize that with GW 'no news' means just that and not 'news that you're not getting what you wanted'.

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cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

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zamerion wrote:
I'm glad that there are still people with hope.


He’s right though.

I don’t think there will be more, but can’t really base it on this.


And you can’t say that they are saying no news now and the next mortals is Warcry.
That’s not how GW works.

It’s just that Warcry is already announced, so they aren’t giving anything away.
Where mortals could be second week or next month or whatever, but “they have no news right now”

Case in point, if you message them and say what’s coming in two preorders time, they’d say no news or don’t know.
But obviously as a company they already know the rest of the year, let alone weeks out

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mortar_crew wrote:
 Geifer wrote:
mortar_crew wrote:
I hope it can be built with or without the head.


Same. If it's integrated, and I expect that it is, I'll have to see whether I want to put the effort into cutting it out and if it's worth the price then.


Slaanesh be praised!!

https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/SlaaneshRules-Apr22-SlaaneshArmy20yjcw.jpg


That's just the backside of it, though. The picture's a little small for my old eyes, but if we could see how the undercuts or the lack thereof on the dangling bits, we might guess at whether the piece is solid or not.

My opinion remains it's a simple sprue with two halves for the Slaaneshi icon, until I see otherwise.

 Mothman wrote:
zamerion wrote:
I'm glad that there are still people with hope.


its not so much im hopeful I just see a few different avenues GW could go down

1.secret hidden wave next week
2.the warcry kits are like necromunda ones and can do 10 customisable dudes who also have aos rules
3.Slaves to darkness is being redone with unique kits to all the gods and they just moved the mortal units there

Im holding off doom and gloom to see what comes from warhammerfest
2-3 could honestly be combined with warcry warbands forming your battle line of chioce then adding on elements from slaves to darkness to bulk them out with some themed units and generic ones


I like option number 3 the best. GW could draw it out over four years and give us Khornate Slaves to Darkness the first year, Nurglite the second year, Tzeentchian the third year and nothing the fourth year.

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Dissapointing that it is, as I expected and feared, a discount slaanesh release. Still, that named KOS is a thing of beauty

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 Kanluwen wrote:
ArmchairArbiter wrote:
So two questions -

1) Weren't the mortal followers for Tzeentch released as part of Thousand Sons? And not the Daemons wave?

Kairic Acolytes released with the Disciples of Tzeentch book in January of 2017, but were introduced as part of the Silver Tower boxed set prior to that.
Tzaangors released in November of 2016 as their own kit, part of the Thousand Sons revamp.


2) I would image they would spread it out/separate it and they wouldn't confirm other stuff coming because they want you to buy this weeks stuff. Is that not plausible?

The only real possible explanation I can think of right now is that they've got something they're holding them back as part of, maybe a Silver Tower-esque game or the like. Or they realized that having all of this god-specific stuff present in those books makes it hard to do Slaves to Darkness well.


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Tzaangors also released in Silver Tower first, didn't they? Then they did the T-Sons release shortly after.

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Voss wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Voss wrote:
And again, an army book without an army serves no purpose. I'm also not sure how it benefits a mortal-only player at all? None of their models are going to be in the book or use its rules.
First, the book has an army. Undeniably. I made it quite clear when I listed off the four dozen units it has access to. Artificially reducing it does not change that. Second, the battletome benefits the Slaanesh keyword and all marked units will benefit heavily. Every other god book has had dedicated command trait and artifact tables specifically for mortals that can be used with any marked characters. So the second claim is also false.

It is frustrating to be hoping for mono-Slaanesh mortal kits and get none. I expected to see them, and wanted to. Same for when Nurgle got their battletome. I wanted BoC to have kits for at least one of Pestigors, Khornegors, or Slaangors. I want each god to be able to run a non-daemon force that is viable with multiple ways to do so. The frustration at lacking that is entirely justified. Making false statements to exaggerate the situation is not.

I literally have no idea what you're on about. Slaanesh doesn't have 'four dozen units'. There are chariots in three flavors, daemonettes, fiends and daemonettes on steeds. That's it for units: six.

Rustling up some generic warriors and the awful marauders and trying to claim they're also Slaanesh units is nonsense,

Do you tell arcanite players just to use bestigors and marauders?
Gloomspite players to use savage orcs?
Deepkin players just to toss some high elves on the table?

Expecting an army to have its own units is the bare minimum. Not to recycle an old army's models. Especially when they're thematically and visually distinct.
As I previously established, this argument is nonsense and objectively untrue. Repeating it does not change that.

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Voss wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Voss wrote:
And again, an army book without an army serves no purpose. I'm also not sure how it benefits a mortal-only player at all? None of their models are going to be in the book or use its rules.
First, the book has an army. Undeniably. I made it quite clear when I listed off the four dozen units it has access to. Artificially reducing it does not change that. Second, the battletome benefits the Slaanesh keyword and all marked units will benefit heavily. Every other god book has had dedicated command trait and artifact tables specifically for mortals that can be used with any marked characters. So the second claim is also false.

It is frustrating to be hoping for mono-Slaanesh mortal kits and get none. I expected to see them, and wanted to. Same for when Nurgle got their battletome. I wanted BoC to have kits for at least one of Pestigors, Khornegors, or Slaangors. I want each god to be able to run a non-daemon force that is viable with multiple ways to do so. The frustration at lacking that is entirely justified. Making false statements to exaggerate the situation is not.

I literally have no idea what you're on about. Slaanesh doesn't have 'four dozen units'. There are chariots in three flavors, daemonettes, fiends and daemonettes on steeds. That's it for units: six.

Rustling up some generic warriors and the awful marauders and trying to claim they're also Slaanesh units is nonsense,

Do you tell arcanite players just to use bestigors and marauders?
Gloomspite players to use savage orcs?
Deepkin players just to toss some high elves on the table?

Expecting an army to have its own units is the bare minimum. Not to recycle an old army's models. Especially when they're thematically and visually distinct.
As I previously established, this argument is nonsense and objectively untrue. Repeating it does not change that.


Well, not really. You stated that sticking to units in the book was somehow ‘artificially reducing’ the units we had access to (but we’re talking about Slaanesh units - if you include things outside the book, they’re things that any Chaos faction can take, so Slaanesh still has less variety than the other gods?)

Slaves to Darkness are not Slaanesh units. I find you’re argument to be weird, frankly, and repeating it doesn’t make it true.
   
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 ImAGeek wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Voss wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Voss wrote:
And again, an army book without an army serves no purpose. I'm also not sure how it benefits a mortal-only player at all? None of their models are going to be in the book or use its rules.
First, the book has an army. Undeniably. I made it quite clear when I listed off the four dozen units it has access to. Artificially reducing it does not change that. Second, the battletome benefits the Slaanesh keyword and all marked units will benefit heavily. Every other god book has had dedicated command trait and artifact tables specifically for mortals that can be used with any marked characters. So the second claim is also false.

It is frustrating to be hoping for mono-Slaanesh mortal kits and get none. I expected to see them, and wanted to. Same for when Nurgle got their battletome. I wanted BoC to have kits for at least one of Pestigors, Khornegors, or Slaangors. I want each god to be able to run a non-daemon force that is viable with multiple ways to do so. The frustration at lacking that is entirely justified. Making false statements to exaggerate the situation is not.

I literally have no idea what you're on about. Slaanesh doesn't have 'four dozen units'. There are chariots in three flavors, daemonettes, fiends and daemonettes on steeds. That's it for units: six.

Rustling up some generic warriors and the awful marauders and trying to claim they're also Slaanesh units is nonsense,

Do you tell arcanite players just to use bestigors and marauders?
Gloomspite players to use savage orcs?
Deepkin players just to toss some high elves on the table?

Expecting an army to have its own units is the bare minimum. Not to recycle an old army's models. Especially when they're thematically and visually distinct.
As I previously established, this argument is nonsense and objectively untrue. Repeating it does not change that.


Well, not really. You stated that sticking to units in the book was somehow ‘artificially reducing’ the units we had access to (but we’re talking about Slaanesh units - if you include things outside the book, they’re things that any Chaos faction can take, so Slaanesh still has less variety than the other gods?)

Slaves to Darkness are not Slaanesh units. I find you’re argument to be weird, frankly, and repeating it doesn’t make it true.
He is arguing Slaanesh has six units, and that my argument is analogous to including units from outside the allegiance. Both of those are objectively untrue. To respond to you specifically, I noted earlier that even barring StDs Slaanesh very much has a large selection of units as compared to other armies in the game. The "artificial reduction" I refer to is saying "I want to play mortal slaanesh, but without most of the mortal slaanesh options." Like it or not, mortal slaanesh are keywords marked StD units have. That is objective fact. Me repeating it does not make it true, because it is simply true.

Yes, you can have a desire to not need StDs to run a mortal army. And as I stated numerous times that is entirely justified and a valid position, just a subjective one.

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You can tell we're not getting any hedonite mortal units from the spell lists They talk about the 3 lores are only mortal, demons and greater demon spells instead of usually having a spell list for the unique mortal part of the battletome.
   
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 timetowaste85 wrote:
Tzaangors also released in Silver Tower first, didn't they? Then they did the T-Sons release shortly after.

I had to dig a bit to sort it, but yes.

Silver Tower came out in October of 2016 with Thousand Sons releasing with Warzone Fenris in November of 2016.
January 14th 2017 saw the Disciples of Tzeentch and Kairic Acolytes release, then the Daemons released the following week.


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nagash42 wrote:
You can tell we're not getting any hedonite mortal units from the spell lists They talk about the 3 lores are only mortal, demons and greater demon spells instead of usually having a spell list for the unique mortal part of the battletome.

I don't know if I'd really buy into this, given that there's 3 unique "subfactions" in the form of the Invader, Pretender, and Godseeker Hosts. The potential is there for them to have the lores intended to work in that regard.

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nagash42 wrote:
You can tell we're not getting any hedonite mortal units from the spell lists They talk about the 3 lores are only mortal, demons and greater demon spells instead of usually having a spell list for the unique mortal part of the battletome.
Which is interesting, because it is evidence that mono-Slaanesh mortals remain just that rather than gaining an equivalent to Rotbringers, Bloodbound, or Arcanites. If they were going to introduce one I assume it would be now. Or perhaps they will gain one and just not be getting a lore but still exclusive artifacts/traits. As it stands Slaanesh is unique in that all mortals are equal in allegiance terms, but if they did that it would be a heavy hint of new Slaanesh mortals being planned.


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 Kanluwen wrote:
nagash42 wrote:
You can tell we're not getting any hedonite mortal units from the spell lists They talk about the 3 lores are only mortal, demons and greater demon spells instead of usually having a spell list for the unique mortal part of the battletome.

I don't know if I'd really buy into this, given that there's 3 unique "subfactions" in the form of the Invader, Pretender, and Godseeker Hosts. The potential is there for them to have the lores intended to work in that regard.
They called out Daemon Wizards, Mortal Wizards, and Greater Daemon Wizards.

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I'm not sure if this has been brought up before, but I did some searches and did not see anything.

So apparently a) Wargames Factory produces certain plastics for Games Workshop in China, which is interesting, but also b) What are these?!

Dominion of Sigmar Sigmarite Dais
Dominion of Sigmar The Enduring Stormvault
Dominion of Sigmar Fallen Statues
Dominion of Sigmar Shattered Temple

new modular AoS terrain for Warcry first then AoS after, much like the new 40k Sector Imperialis releases for Kill Team first then 40k after?

https://panjiva.com/Wargames-Factory-Ltd/33258484

PLASTIC MODEL P O 308857 REF. -M 99120299054 DOMINION OF SIGMAR SIGMARITE DAIS QTY 2619 PCS 1310 CTNS P O 308856 REF. -M 99120299056 DOMINION SIGMAR THE ENDURING STORMVAULT QTY 2232 PCS 1116 CTNS HS CODE NO. 95030090 ORIGIN CHINA

PLASTIC MODEL P O 308859 REF. -M 99120299057 DOMINION OF SIGMAR FALLEN STATUES QTY 3280 PCS 820 CTNS P O 308858 REF. -M 99120299053 DOMINION OF SIGMAR SHATTERED TEMPLE QTY 2458 PCS 615 CTNS HS CODE NO. 95030090 ORIGIN CHINA

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We have heard mention of the Stormvaults in the teaser for upcoming Forbidden Power supplement:

Spoiler:



And from the Games Worshop Instagram accountL

Spoiler:

A Fane of Slaanesh is a focus of worship wrought in precious metal. Around it are laid offerings to the Dark Prince, but in truth it is one of his most exalted greater daemons that peers through. Those whose offerings meet with the creature’s approval are rewarded highly – but those who offend are justly punished.

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
nagash42 wrote:
You can tell we're not getting any hedonite mortal units from the spell lists They talk about the 3 lores are only mortal, demons and greater demon spells instead of usually having a spell list for the unique mortal part of the battletome.

I don't know if I'd really buy into this, given that there's 3 unique "subfactions" in the form of the Invader, Pretender, and Godseeker Hosts. The potential is there for them to have the lores intended to work in that regard.
They called out Daemon Wizards, Mortal Wizards, and Greater Daemon Wizards.

Right, but what I'm meaning is that rather than having it split into Daemon, Mortal, Greater Daemon--it's just Invader, Pretender, and Godseeker Host Wizards instead.
   
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 judgedoug wrote:
I'm not sure if this has been brought up before, but I did some searches and did not see anything.

So apparently a) Wargames Factory produces certain plastics for Games Workshop in China, which is interesting, but also b) What are these?


Interesting find With them being individual listings, I'm assuming these are for seperate releases and not the main Warcry big box. The latest Stormcast episode was not shy about biging the game up. So its probably coming soon. Fingers crossed we should have the game in hand within a couple of months?

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The prices have been uploaded on facebook.

   
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Oof. 40$ for the Infernal Enrapturess? At least now maybe we'll get a 360 degree look at it
   
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How is the smallest greater demon the most expensive? Doesn’t make any sense.

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 timetowaste85 wrote:
How is the smallest greater demon the most expensive? Doesn’t make any sense.


Is it still the smallest though? looks pretty huge in the pictures. Doesn't seem to be a way to really tell until its actually released.
   
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 timetowaste85 wrote:
How is the smallest greater demon the most expensive? Doesn’t make any sense.


How is it the most expensive? It’s the same price as the GUO
   
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Which is a HUGE piece of fat plastic. This should be around the cost of the BT.

And don’t get me wrong; I’m still buying two KoSs, one DP, one mirror, 1 endless spell box and one terrain box (plus the book). But the second KoS will be a while.

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 timetowaste85 wrote:
Which is a HUGE piece of fat plastic. This should be around the cost of the BT.

And don’t get me wrong; I’m still buying two KoSs, one DP, one mirror, 1 endless spell box and one terrain box (plus the book). But the second KoS will be a while.
It's surface area that matters, which is related to size but not the same thing. The GUO is big but also very hollow.

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Still doesn't explain why the KOS is as expensive as the GUO.

   
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I find the mirror being $50 and the harpist are the really overcosted ones
   
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Bottle confirmed as being a big part of Warcry's development? What a lovely day.

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Because the BT is 2 year old. Sadly thats how it works now.

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Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

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