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I'd expect the Warbringer, along with some sort of air support and AA rules, to appear sometime in 2020, along with a campaign book.

AI, is pretty ripe for some crossover... eventually.
   
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I hope we get to see the regular non Nemesis version of the Warbringer as well. I'm thinking it could be like a scaled down Warlord with paired Reaver weapons on the carapace.
   
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Speaking of, and I know I keep harping on this, but do the Reaver Carapace Turbo Lasers fit on the Warlord Titan?
   
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Nurglitch wrote:
Speaking of, and I know I keep harping on this, but do the Reaver Carapace Turbo Lasers fit on the Warlord Titan?

Not well. The Warlord weapons all have an exterior flange that covers the mounting point on the shoulder, while the reaver weapons are designed to fit the recess in the armour of the carapace so they’re nearly flush. If you use the reaver weapon on a warlord shoulder it sticks up a lot and there’s no proper mating between the parts so you’re more likely to slide the gun off than rotate it if you try to move it mid-game.

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 Mr_Rose wrote:
Nurglitch wrote:
Speaking of, and I know I keep harping on this, but do the Reaver Carapace Turbo Lasers fit on the Warlord Titan?

Not well. The Warlord weapons all have an exterior flange that covers the mounting point on the shoulder, while the reaver weapons are designed to fit the recess in the armour of the carapace so they’re nearly flush. If you use the reaver weapon on a warlord shoulder it sticks up a lot and there’s no proper mating between the parts so you’re more likely to slide the gun off than rotate it if you try to move it mid-game.

Agreed. I've got a couple of the mega bolters to convert for a warlord but it's clear that they need work and can't just fit straight on. I think I'll attach them to cradles from some spare warlord laser blasters.
   
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Oh hey, the 100th AT filler article in a row is up! Hype!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/10/15/princeps-pointers-the-warhound-titanfw-homepage-post-1/
   
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Try not to view them as "filler" and just as hobby articles. It's actually a good thing GW does this. It's a very casual way for them to market the game without having to wait for a new model release. It also is far more exposure for the game than putting it in White Dwarf alone, since not everyone subscribes to it.

So sure there's no new toys to buy, but if there's some conversation and attention on the game from GW it means its not forgotten and it also increases the chances of picking up more players for the game.



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The story so far, perhaps? Been a fortnight since the last one so with the reaver next...maybe they might reveal a new titan in a month's time?

In the mean time, the least they could do is revise the rules for the Acastus as their introduction has effectively broken the game...





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Yup don't know about you but as soon as that was released every one of my models broke and my books tore in half. Terrible. Completely broken and can't play anymore.

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Just play without traits for weapons and don't play 1 large banners(except if you have only 1 period) and problems go away.

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We'll find out soon enough eh.

Or, just play them as they are, since they're no worse than anything else if you have two braincells to rub together and an appropriate amount of terrain.

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The point is being missed here; the Acastus itself isn't the problem but how many one can field. Leigo vs Household games are broken because the Household player can overwhelm the Legio player with so many Acastus' that it turns into a slaughter.

I don't think the Acastus should be weakened, but as a serious contender to the warhound its points cost should not be half that of the hound. About 150 points is right for a fully armed( and operational!) Acastus. That 50pts-ish gap allows for the Warhound's advantage of repairs and pushing its reactor. But at 110 pts, there just isn't a good enough reason to spend it on anything else...

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We'll find out soon enough eh.

Again, if you're playing with an adequate amount of terrain it's simply not an issue. Spamming Acastus only wins games on Planet Bowlingball, anywhere else basic tactics will counter it no trouble; use LoS to limit how many can hit your big lads at any given time and focus them down, use your fast lads to force through a flank and roll up their line, get them moving around a bit and don't just wander out into the open and let them shoot at you, if they're spamming Acastus they're going to have limited numbers of other Knights so get in close with high RoF guns and stomp 'em.

Legio players can't expect to go up against Acastus like they're basic Knights who pose no real threat to their engines at range, that's what's getting them spanked, and they deserve it.

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 Yodhrin wrote:
Or, just play them as they are, since they're no worse than anything else if you have two braincells to rub together and an appropriate amount of terrain.


Ah yes the old faithful stick head in sand and claim things are fine.

And btw here in this case appropriate would be OPEN terrain as that way there's way to destroy them before they get to shoot. So you suggesting play on planet bowling ball?

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 Yodhrin wrote:
Again, if you're playing with an adequate amount of terrain it's simply not an issue. Spamming Acastus only wins games on Planet Bowlingball, anywhere else basic tactics will counter it no trouble; use LoS to limit how many can hit your big lads at any given time and focus them down, use your fast lads to force through a flank and roll up their line, get them moving around a bit and don't just wander out into the open and let them shoot at you, if they're spamming Acastus they're going to have limited numbers of other Knights so get in close with high RoF guns and stomp 'em.

Legio players can't expect to go up against Acastus like they're basic Knights who pose no real threat to their engines at range, that's what's getting them spanked, and they deserve it.


All I can say is this; If that is your experience of playing against such game-breaking odds then I can only salute you.

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We've house ruled the Acastus and it works pretty well. Half the Conversion Beam shots from 4 to 2 and limit to the smaller template. Works for us.

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Nice! I've been waiting for them to release something like this, now I can get on with my AT table. :-)

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Still rolling ones...

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I would like to get excited by new AT scenery items but they don't do anything for me. The style is too neutral, they don't scream 40k or AT in your face and do not really match the plastic buildings either.

That place is the harsh dark future far left with only war left. 
   
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These look low effort enough to be china plastic.

Turn out it's low effort resin kit.
   
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Considering the existing plastic stuff by GW, the price and the Vanguard stuff you can get, this is the first AT2018 stuff that has me passing. It must be bigger than I thought on seeing the price but I think I'll give this a miss. Roll on the missing Warlord Carapace weapons.
   
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I like them, pretty good accessory pieces. Have they released that miniature train by the way, has it been available at events?
   
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I think I like them, but they look a bit Third Party to me?

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Those are really cool. I'd be all over those if I played AT.

Now release a 40K scale version of that Manufactorum.

   
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Nothing about those looks 30k. I appreciate that they are detail pieces but this is yet another terrain release that does nothing to affect gameplay.

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SamusDrake wrote:
 Yodhrin wrote:
Again, if you're playing with an adequate amount of terrain it's simply not an issue. Spamming Acastus only wins games on Planet Bowlingball, anywhere else basic tactics will counter it no trouble; use LoS to limit how many can hit your big lads at any given time and focus them down, use your fast lads to force through a flank and roll up their line, get them moving around a bit and don't just wander out into the open and let them shoot at you, if they're spamming Acastus they're going to have limited numbers of other Knights so get in close with high RoF guns and stomp 'em.

Legio players can't expect to go up against Acastus like they're basic Knights who pose no real threat to their engines at range, that's what's getting them spanked, and they deserve it.


All I can say is this; If that is your experience of playing against such game-breaking odds then I can only salute you.

There's no defence for the Acastus' rules as they stand. It's obviously too powerful - both in terms of its points cost and for what it feels like it should do. How come its lasers are more powerful than a warhound's, with longer range? How come its ironstorm missile pod (a weapon a questoris knight can have on its roof in 40k) is more powerful than a reaver titan's apocalypse missile launcher? Because they did an awful job writing the rules - both for balance and for "realism" (and I realise that "realism is an absurd term, but some sort of in-universe consistency would be nice).

The terminal itself isn't even internally consistent. The Asterius is flat out better than the Porphyron, with S9 guns and large blasts, but for exactly the same price. A S9 gun that fires large blasts should obviously cost more than a S8 gun that fires small blasts, especially when mounted on the same exact platform, but it doesn’t on the Acastus.

To suggest that terrain is the solution tells me that you've probably never played a game of AT - and certainly not one involving knights. Knights like terrain. They are small, can move in any direction and have 360 degree fire arcs. And they outnumber titans, obviously. Terrain allows knights to hide from some titans while focusing down the others. The more terrain you have, the more the titans lose.

Edit: new terrain is nice I guess. Can't say I particularly like it, and I'm not sure how it's meant to work in game since it all seems too small to give cover to anything, but I guess people can stick it on bases if they want. I probably won't.

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Not my bag at all( love a bit of plasticard work myself ) but at least the new terrain is something!


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I like them, pretty good accessory pieces. Have they released that miniature train by the way, has it been available at events?


By all rights they should have done. Would love to recreate last August's WD battle, just for a laugh.

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