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Jaon wrote:I am not sure the baby cats who are covered in their own blood, as all cats should be

hey no cruelty towards animal's as an animale care taker i cant allow it!
but if you want to be cruel to something take a french canadian or French bloke they dont mind they speak french

hey no cruelty towards animal's as an animale care taker i cant allow it!
but if you want to be cruel to something take a french canadian or French bloke they dont mind they speak french

lol Best post so far this decade

Blood of kittens is a decent site but by jupiter what a gakky name. It rather stinks of attentionwhoring.
I mean they could change the "kittens" part to somehting more suitable to be cruel towards like uh, I dont know, PLEASE DON'T SAY NEGATIVE THINGS ABOUT EVERYONE FROM ANY GIVEN COUNTRY?

Please don't post thngs like this. Thank you.

And the thread takes a turn for the worse...

No Inquisitoral stormtroopers?! Why?! :(
They were the only reason I was thnking about playing GK!

This thread is in serious jeopardy now - STAY on topic or it gets closed up, and the people who cause it to be closed by ignoring this warning receive the appropriate discipline.

Thanks!

loner wrote:No Inquisitoral stormtroopers?! Why?! :(
They were the only reason I was thnking about playing GK!

I don't think they've been confirmed or denied. There's really fethall for concrete rumors on GK aside from "Coming in April" and with "plastic kits because that's the norm."

sorry :(
but with the lack of updates we are forced too rely on cheesy comments.

on what can we speculate some more? who will design the models? i hope Juan hiss latest skave models are so smooth.

Well, the plot thickens. According to Katie Drake on Heresy;

We're getting closer to release, so I'll talk about what I heard.

The power mentioned is (I think) the new Holocaust. How I was told that it works is as follows:

Lets say we have a unit of 20 Gaunts charging some Grey Knights. One of the Knights has the Holocaust power. After assault moves are done but before attacks are resolved, the Grey Knight passes his psychic test to use Holocaust. Each model in the enemy unit is hit once by an attack that always wounds on a 4+ and allows normal armor saves.

What that basically means is that before anyone gets to swing, the Knights can blow through half of a unit that has a poor armor save. In the above example, we're looking at 9 dead Gaunts most likely - and that's before the Knights attack.

That's much more powerful against hordes! Imagine Ork Boyz....13ish dead before anything happens? Yikes.


Even more info from Katie;

Ha, I didn't mean to open myself up to questions, but what the hell.

Yeah, I've heard stuff about Hammerhand. Basically, it's cast in the assault phase, and the casting unit gains +1S until the end of the turn which is awfully nice when everyone's packing a force weapon.

what they are downgrading hammerhand? i doubt that.

plus what that Katty said is already said

Wonder how GW will solve the force weapon-in-squads mechanics.
They are after all supposed to simple down the games and rules.

Imagine 10 knights with 2 attacks each whacking away at an enemy squad that consists of multi wound creatures.
For example 10 GKs charge 10 DE grotesques.
Lets say they make 8 wounds on the grotesques.

1: Now how do we know what knight makes what wound, for all we know only 4 knights could make those 8 wounds.
2: How will the instant death rolls be solved, will GW allow the GK player to roll the same amount of Ld tests as the amount of wounds the squad made?
3: Will it only be one force weapon Ld test for the justicar?

I mean force weapon squads will bog down the game with heaps of rolls etc if the weapons are supposed to work like individual force weapons.

Also what is the differance between PAGKs and TAGKs if now PAGKs get 2+ armour saves. Even if they retain their 3+ saves the weapon loadout is exactly the same and only thing differeing the squads apart is one armour save, they both have force weapons.

Oddly enough, no one has been able to confirm if the new GK will be silver. Maybe they will be pink. Who knows?

And I think BoK has been pretty par for the course when it comes to rumors.

Pyriel- wrote:Also what is the differance between PAGKs and TAGKs if now PAGKs get 2+ armour saves.

A 5+ Ward Save for the TAGK?

Pyriel- wrote:Wonder how GW will solve the force weapon-in-squads mechanics.
They are after all supposed to simple down the games and rules.

Imagine 10 knights with 2 attacks each whacking away at an enemy squad that consists of multi wound creatures.
For example 10 GKs charge 10 DE grotesques.
Lets say they make 8 wounds on the grotesques.

1: Now how do we know what knight makes what wound, for all we know only 4 knights could make those 8 wounds.
2: How will the instant death rolls be solved, will GW allow the GK player to roll the same amount of Ld tests as the amount of wounds the squad made?
3: Will it only be one force weapon Ld test for the justicar?

I mean force weapon squads will bog down the game with heaps of rolls etc if the weapons are supposed to work like individual force weapons.

Also what is the differance between PAGKs and TAGKs if now PAGKs get 2+ armour saves. Even if they retain their 3+ saves the weapon loadout is exactly the same and only thing differeing the squads apart is one armour save, they both have force weapons.

Last question first: Termies have a 5+ Inv save apart from the 2+ AS. Artificer armor is only 2+.

An earlier rumor suggested that on the FW front the unit would roll one LD test. If it went off, they worked as FW, if not they didn't (and possibly a Perils test?). As for how it will work against units of multi wound models, does this not already come up? Are there not instances of multiple powerfists/high strength attacks striking multiwound units? What happens when Autocannons or AC's or Ion Cannons hit T3 multiwound units? I don't see the answer to these questions being much different to the one you posed.

also terminators gain relentless

but can't sweeping advance.

So going to collect new grey knights.

Wonder how GW will translate "Holocaust power" into German

I actually lol'ed. Very well played Kroot!

reading germans, then holocaust, then justdave's post count of 1939...

So, anything about Inquisitorial Stormtroopers or the Inquisition side? I haven't heard the blood of kittens rumours as they havent been posted in this thread.

AgeOfEgos wrote:
*Shrug*, 10 GKs will only kill...what 4ish Orcs with that upgrade? 4 removed from the rear...

That right there is one of the higher on the list of my many issues with 40k rules. My sword, fist, etc didnt hit the guy at the back of the horde...it hit the one right in front of me. That the one that should be removed. Period.

The whole game is a bit of an abstraction though.

It isn't a 'true' skirmish ruleset, so you have to take the good with the bad... and the fuzzy and blurry...

Kroothawk wrote:Wonder how GW will translate "Holocaust power" into German

how have they for the past 10 years? the power exists in the current codex and i thought there was a german version of it...

warboss wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:Wonder how GW will translate "Holocaust power" into German

how have they for the past 10 years? the power exists in the current codex and i thought there was a german version of it...

"Inferno" ?
Could be wrong.

warboss wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:Wonder how GW will translate "Holocaust power" into German

how have they for the past 10 years? the power exists in the current codex and i thought there was a german version of it...

I think it was more a joke than anything . . . i know right . . . a German with a sense of humor, lol.








JK Kroothawk

Happygrunt wrote:Oddly enough, no one has been able to confirm if the new GK will be silver. Maybe they will be pink. Who knows?

There was a picture of a Stormraven painted in Grey Knight colors (even down to the black, white, and red heraldry on the side much like their Land Raiders) that I posted earlier in the thread if you don't mind delving into my post history. Looks like they'll be keeping the silvery paint scheme.

Kroothawk wrote:Wonder how GW will translate "Holocaust power" into German

The word 'Holocaust' isn't a German one, so it probably stayed the same? If you access the German website for the Daemonhunters .pdf you can probably check for yourself.

bhsman wrote:

The word 'Holocaust' isn't a German one, so it probably stayed the same? If you access the German website for the Daemonhunters .pdf you can probably check for yourself.

I think he was referring to the hypersensitivity to the subject that most Germans display. When I was in Germany, I had two different people apologize for the actions of their country in WW2. It was somewhat surreal.

Mr Hyena wrote:So, anything about Inquisitorial Stormtroopers or the Inquisition side? I haven't heard the blood of kittens rumours as they havent been posted in this thread.

Apparently they've dropped to BS3. O.o

Kroothawk wrote:Wonder how GW will translate "Holocaust power" into German

Roughly, "Power-that-kills-a-great-many-but-has-nothing-to-do-with-historical-events-or-our-national-identity-and-really-almost-all-those-responsible-are-dead-and-we-modern-Germans-aren't-them-anymore-than-you-Americans-are-slave-owners-so-let's-alls-remember-our-predecessor's-mistakes-but-not-dwell-on-them-eh?"

I think - but my German was never that good. I may be a word or two off.