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Its a loyalist DP, at least that's what it seems like. That or a Imperial wraithlord.

Interesting way they are slanting GKs away from vanilla marines. LRs, Stormravens, and DPs to go with ridiculously powerful infantry.

I just remebered that eldar have long legged stuff too! I wonder how tall this thing is compared to a wraithlord

The scenery piece of the big marine (honoured imperium or something) would make a nice proxy for this thing

I will stick, with the forgeworld dred.

I agree with Kan that the dreadknight would have been much cooler as a psychically animated thing, although I think it would be just as cool if it were something along the lines of a psychically animated exo-suit. I feel like that would address some of the fluffy "why doesn't every marine chapter have these?" issues.

I retched a bit when I saw the models, purely because of the proportions/silhouettes. It's growing on me now though, and I think it could look okay if posed a lot more dynamically. Bulk it up with some plasticard armor plating, and I think I could get something I'm happy with out of it. The bulk being the important part here. As is, it seems way too skinny.

I want to see an actual model,this can be posed very dynamically, as Zefig said. I wish it were a bit bulkier, but whatever.

shrike wrote:
aegis armour is kinda armoured power armour, GK terminator armour is kinda armoured aegis armour, and this thing is kinda armoured terminator armour...so this is armoured armoured armoured armour?

Lord Scythican wrote:

shrike wrote:
aegis armour is kinda armoured power armour, GK terminator armour is kinda armoured aegis armour, and this thing is kinda armoured terminator armour...so this is armoured armoured armoured armour?

Very nice. This DOES bring a whole new level to 'sm' armor though. Interesting.

I find it funny that just days ago people were posting that we wouldn't see pics for this kinda stuff for another month yet. Deffinitly not in Feb. The next day we get a pic which is immediatly returned with... well ya but its blurry we want a non blurry one!

Beggars can't be choosers! I did notice on the bottom "Shin guard?" of the model, it almost looks like it has curvatures so that it's not just a brick for a bottom portion of the leg. Might be my fail at magnifying too...

People were meaning we wouldn't see legitimate pics for this kind stuff for another month yet.

We see plenty of this leaked, poor quality webcam stuff.

Apparently GW is fine with the leaks as well? From what I can tell they just let people stroll into the facility with iPads and what not so it must be obvious what is going to come from that?

I'm Ron Burgandy?

that is an incredible coincidence that I said pretty much that, and there's alredy a pic for it!
this is what's gone on in the past year or so:
-dreads hanging onto a mini-thunderhawk via a tiny winch that couldn't hold a termie.
-deep-striking land raiders.
-space marines riding giant wolves.
-MC stats on a 25mm base.
-canis wolfborn the space wolf, riding a giant wolf, armed with wolfclaws, backed up by thunderwolf cavalry.
and now armoured armoured armoured armour?!

Pyronick wrote:Apparently GW is fine with the leaks as well? From what I can tell they just let people stroll into the facility with iPads and what not so it must be obvious what is going to come from that?

I'm Ron Burgandy?

You do know that they have to outsource things to people like printers, translators, etc right?

They don't do codices in house, outside of the actual design process.

Kanluwen wrote:Aka_Mythos--the biggest problem I think is simply the fact that it is an exo-suit.

Detail shots aren't going to change the fact that it's a radical, polarizing idea that is just so far beyond the norm for Imperial forces that it feels absurd just looking at it.

They have 'em, they're just servitor-driven. Seen the Ultramarines movie? Why would they never adapt them for the battlefield? If a lobotomized servitor can pick up fragile and valuable landspeeders in one in order to load them into a Thunderhawk, why couldn't an elite warrior ruin a greater demon's day with one?

Pyronick wrote:Apparently GW is fine with the leaks as well? From what I can tell they just let people stroll into the facility with iPads and what not so it must be obvious what is going to come from that?

You know that is not a bad idea. If I was near GW's headquarters, I would schedule a field trip with my class and sneak pics. They would probably let the little ones tour all the departments. All I would need to do it buy some tech from thinkgeek.com and I would be set up for some nice leaked photos...

shrike wrote:that is an incredible coincidence that I said pretty much that, and there's already a pic for it!

That's why I quoted you! It was worthy of a 5 minute photoshop!

Samus_aran115 wrote:

Very nice. This DOES bring a whole new level to 'sm' armor though. Interesting.

Thanks!

VoidAngel wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Aka_Mythos--the biggest problem I think is simply the fact that it is an exo-suit.

Detail shots aren't going to change the fact that it's a radical, polarizing idea that is just so far beyond the norm for Imperial forces that it feels absurd just looking at it.

They have 'em, they're just servitor-driven. Seen the Ultramarines movie? Why would they never adapt them for the battlefield? If a lobotomized servitor can pick up fragile and valuable landspeeders in one in order to load them into a Thunderhawk, why couldn't an elite warrior ruin a greater demon's day with one?

Actually no, they don't have "servitor-driven" exosuits.

They have servitors fused into exoskeletons. In "Eisenhorn", those kinds of things were mentioned quite a bit. One of the renegade Psykers at the Triumphal even possesses one and uses it to try to kill Eisenhorn.

And if a lobotomized servitor can use it to pick up fragile and valuable landspeeders, why the hell would "an elite warrior" need one to ruin a Greater Daemon's day when they've been doing it for thousands of years prior without it?

The whole point of Grey Knights isn't that they need all these high tech ridiculous things.
Daemons, on a physical level, are really actually kinda weak for what they are. Even Greater Daemons can be banished with the correct words.

Kanluwen wrote:

Pyronick wrote:Apparently GW is fine with the leaks as well? From what I can tell they just let people stroll into the facility with iPads and what not so it must be obvious what is going to come from that?

I'm Ron Burgandy?

You do know that they have to outsource things to people like printers, translators, etc right?

They don't do codices in house, outside of the actual design process.

No I understand that. However i'm assuming that they have pretty tight NDA's in place and that the leaking of a photo should cause a big stir no? Especially considering it happens EVERY time. Either they are super loose on the policy or they use so many companies there's no way to track where it came from. Not really on topic just interesting to me.

Then again i'm comparing this to my job where we work in classified material so the rules are really strict concerning this type of thing. Maybe in the commercial world its different.

Pyronick wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

Pyronick wrote:Apparently GW is fine with the leaks as well? From what I can tell they just let people stroll into the facility with iPads and what not so it must be obvious what is going to come from that?

I'm Ron Burgandy?

You do know that they have to outsource things to people like printers, translators, etc right?

They don't do codices in house, outside of the actual design process.

No I understand that. However i'm assuming that they have pretty tight NDA's in place and that the leaking of a photo should cause a big stir no? Especially considering it happens EVERY time. Either they are super loose on the policy or they use so many companies there's no way to track where it came from. Not really on topic just interesting to me.

Then again i'm comparing this to my job where we work in classified material so the rules are really strict concerning this type of thing. Maybe in the commercial world its different.

In the commercial world, this kind of stuff does happen a lot when you have to outsource. Even NDAs don't necessarily prevent it--not in this age with the anonymity of the Internet at least.

Daemon-Archon Ren wrote:

"We can kill just aobut ANY other army out there, but we is scared of NECRONS" -GKGM Codexius Creepus


~DAR

Ironically, my GK got wiped off the board by Necrons this week. Hey, wadda ya know - continuity from GW!

My knee jerk reaction is "I don't like the Dreadknight."

The giant sword makes it look like a Gundam model or something. Totally different asthetic than the Imperial stuff I'm used to seeing.

Maybe the "cleaned up" picture or official pictures will change my mind.

By comparison, I still don't like the Stormraven, but I'll probably get 2 of the fethers for my Black Templars if a WD article lets me.

BrassScorpion wrote:

Does a Space marine or Terminator really need more protection?

Considering how fast Terminators can go away when targeted by things like twin-linked plasma gun fire from Obliterators, yes, they probably do need more protection. Remember, Terminator armor was designed originally both game-wise and lore-wise to give a modicum of protection in close quarter fighting aboard Space Hulks and such from foes using teeth and claws. On open battlefields it does not offer that same level of protection.

P.S. I love wiping out Terminators at close range with Obliterators. One can imagine the smell of the melting armor as the models are removed from the table.

Originally, they were designed to protect technicians working in PLASMA reactors... oh, the irony.

kronk wrote:My knee jerk reaction is "I don't like the Dreadknight."


I still don't like the Stormraven, but I'll probably get 2 of the fethers for my Black Templars if a WD article lets me.

Seem's to be the general idea with people. I'm a blood angel player so thankfully I like the model. However I can't figure out if thats me being completely biased based on my army or that I actually just like it. With people of other armies though its blatently clear

VoidAngel wrote:

BrassScorpion wrote:

Does a Space marine or Terminator really need more protection?

Considering how fast Terminators can go away when targeted by things like twin-linked plasma gun fire from Obliterators, yes, they probably do need more protection. Remember, Terminator armor was designed originally both game-wise and lore-wise to give a modicum of protection in close quarter fighting aboard Space Hulks and such from foes using teeth and claws. On open battlefields it does not offer that same level of protection.

P.S. I love wiping out Terminators at close range with Obliterators. One can imagine the smell of the melting armor as the models are removed from the table.

Originally, they were designed to protect technicians working in PLASMA reactors... oh, the irony.

Uh yeah, about that...

They were designed to protect technicians working in plasma reactors. Where the occasional discharge happens, but it's mostly ambient radiation.

Plasma weapons are highly focused and intended to defeat things like...well, armor

Why should I ever take a Dreadnought now? :(

bhsman wrote:Why should I ever take a Dreadnought now? :(

AV12 (13? if allowed Ironclads) 12 10 with the ability to literally shrug off "unsaved" results (if you get a 1/2 and roll your "Daemonic Possion" ability, you ignore Shaken/Stunned for the turn).

Wargear options?

Immunity to most Attribute tests/ rerolling to 'wound' (you don't roll to wound against Vehicles)?

You already own like 5? (if you are the average SM player)

the list goes on.

bhsman wrote:
Why should I ever take a Dreadnought now? :(

When you want AV instead of Monstrous Creatures.

A sniper can still wound an MC on a 4+. Not so with a Dreadnought. They have two different uses.


Edit: Snipered by Daemon-Archon Ren !

Pyronick wrote:Then again i'm comparing this to my job where we work in classified material so the rules are really strict concerning this type of thing. Maybe in the commercial world its different.

In my experience, the commercial world has a lot of security policies that are often ignored because they are contradictory and would prevent actually getting work done.

Different FOC slots?

Kanluwen wrote:

VoidAngel wrote:

BrassScorpion wrote:

Does a Space marine or Terminator really need more protection?

Considering how fast Terminators can go away when targeted by things like twin-linked plasma gun fire from Obliterators, yes, they probably do need more protection. Remember, Terminator armor was designed originally both game-wise and lore-wise to give a modicum of protection in close quarter fighting aboard Space Hulks and such from foes using teeth and claws. On open battlefields it does not offer that same level of protection.

P.S. I love wiping out Terminators at close range with Obliterators. One can imagine the smell of the melting armor as the models are removed from the table.

Originally, they were designed to protect technicians working in PLASMA reactors... oh, the irony.

Uh yeah, about that...

They were designed to protect technicians working in plasma reactors. Where the occasional discharge happens, but it's mostly ambient radiation.

Plasma weapons are highly focused and intended to defeat things like...well, armor

Yeah, about that - if I remember correctly (and it has been a couple of decades) the reactor chamber was portrayed like some kind of bowl of nuclear soup, that they occasionally needed to walk around in. That there would be "weapons grade" plasma.

About servitors. You pick the nits. It's a guy in a suit. Strap-0n, or welded into - it's still meat driving metal.


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Balance wrote:

Pyronick wrote:Then again i'm comparing this to my job where we work in classified material so the rules are really strict concerning this type of thing. Maybe in the commercial world its different.

In my experience, the commercial world has a lot of security policies that are often ignored because they are contradictory and would prevent actually getting work done.

My experience is the opposite. We've renamed Security the 'Productivity Prevention Dept.' Their motto is, "If you're doing your job, we're not doing ours."

I also have already predictided (TZEEEEEEEEEEENTCH!!!!!!) a very funny scenario...

one of the people in my gaming group is STRONGLY looking forward to using these new grey knights, I see him taking a bunch of Paladins, some librarians, and probably a DK or 2...

Another friend in my group plays eldar (almost always takes Eldrad)

I foresee this happening when they first meet on battle field

GK player rages at Eldrads magic hat (runes of warding?) keeping him from casting spells due to having to roll 3d6.

GK player sends the DK towards Eldrad to knock off his magic hat.

Eldrad Dooms the DK and Guides a nearby warwalker unit
Eldrad Mindwars the DK for potentially 1 wound (possibly not, oh well)

Warwalkers scatter laser the DK off the board.

GK player scoops and rages at GW.

~~~~~

I'm looking foward to this scenario with great anticipation! I will be sure to take battle pics and post the report (including the looks on the Dick's(See: 1d4 Chan on Eldrad) face((Eldar player)) and the look on the GK players face) on dakka shortly afterwards!

Lord Scythican wrote:

Pyronick wrote:Apparently GW is fine with the leaks as well? From what I can tell they just let people stroll into the facility with iPads and what not so it must be obvious what is going to come from that?

You know that is not a bad idea. If I was near GW's headquarters, I would schedule a field trip with my class and sneak pics. They would probably let the little ones tour all the departments. All I would need to do it buy some tech from thinkgeek.com and I would be set up for some nice leaked photos...

shrike wrote:that is an incredible coincidence that I said pretty much that, and there's already a pic for it!

That's why I quoted you! It was worthy of a 5 minute photoshop!

wait...something I said was worthy of something?! This is the greatest day of my life... I'd like to thank all of dakka for the support, and a load of others...