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Well I'll be having a few sets of those trees - The bases look odd in the picture but the video shows the 3 together form a circle. Hopefully the connecting points for the leaves are better than the current set. I wonder if these will replace the old trees or sell along side them or the old ones might go direct only.

I thought they would ignore the leak so they could reveal them on Saturday but it looks like they just needed time to do a new video.

Yep. Tree bases appear to be well suited to the game and it’s practicalities.

Those new trees look way better than the old ones, that's for sure.

I really like the new trees. Something about the gaps under the roots makes me think of aquarium terrain (probably costs the same too)

The ground hive spell is kinda cool. Fits well with Drycha, at least.
That spooky tree doesn't look sylvaneth though. All the bones make it seem more like a Beast of Chaos/Legion of Nagash thing.

Nice trees.

Looks like the only purpose of splitting the Kurnoth Hunter entries is padding out page count. There's no difference apart from weapon profiles and a single special weapon rule on one warscroll.

The tree has a Lamentiri.

The tree has a goddamned Aelf Soul in it.

It's finally happened people! MURDERTREE!


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 lord_blackfang wrote:
Nice trees.

Looks like the only purpose of splitting the Kurnoth Hunter entries is padding out page count. There's no difference apart from weapon profiles and a single special weapon rule on one warscroll.

Also for potential future balance changes.

I like everything, with the Worm being my least favorite, but I'm not sold on the paintjob mostly.

Well this is gonna screw with GW's schedule. I wonder if they have something else to fit in the Sylvaneth slot, or is there going to be a lean week coming up?

Still not sold on the spells personally, although the new trees are nice. After the Shadespire warband I'm surprised there is no mention of new Revenants though.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Nice trees.

Looks like the only purpose of splitting the Kurnoth Hunter entries is padding out page count. There's no difference apart from weapon profiles and a single special weapon rule on one warscroll.

It allows them to price them differently.

Trees are going to be great, clearly they are copy-catting the idea they used for skaven Endless Spell in the trees and its a very good practical approach for the woods!

That said I think the dice steal the show in my view, its a little thing but I love their creative approach to them.




The shipping issue is going to mess with GW a lot since all their card, packaging, books, cards, terrain and spells are overseas produced. That said GW keep all their model factories UK side so in theory they could still push things out even if they have to go in white boxes direct from GW for a while.

Depending how long it goes on for it might mean a few slow weeks followed by some "fast" or heavy weeks where we get way more tahn normal.




Also we don't know the details, it might just be one ship that's blocked up and latter orders are getting through. Or earlier shipments sent tangled up and newer ones are fine etc.... IT could even be limited to a specific shipping firm or group and latter orders might come another way.

No one has mentioned these funky dice..

Danny76 wrote:
No one has mentioned these funky dice..

So Beautiful. So Unreadable.

I’ll be curious how those new trees are worked out. Will they mean I have to replace all of my current Wyldwoods? Will terraforming the board with Wyldwoods even still be a thing? I do enjoy covering the table in murder trees.

 Kanluwen wrote:
The tree has a Lamentiri.

The tree has a goddamned Aelf Soul in it.

It's finally happened people! MURDERTREE!

I want to see a one-on-one duel between a Vengeful Skullroot and a Feculent Gnarlmaw!

 AduroT wrote:
I’ll be curious how those new trees are worked out. Will they mean I have to replace all of my current Wyldwoods? Will terraforming the board with Wyldwoods even still be a thing? I do enjoy covering the table in murder trees.

They said on their Facebook page that you do not have to replace the current Wyldwoods if you don't want to. They're roughly the same size in both instances--just the new one lacks the base but has an 'open' glade in the center.

I'm okay with this. Literally the day before the first teaser shot that included them, I cracked open the plastic on 4 kits I'd had sitting on my shelf.

Ok, I'm planning on building a Death world jungle board for 40k. I need both those new trees and the Endless spells... (especially the nasty looking hive, that would be a perfect surprise to hide in a mangrove thicket ).

 Haighus wrote:
Ok, I'm planning on building a Death world jungle board for 40k. I need both those new trees and the Endless spells... (especially the nasty looking hive, that would be a perfect surprise to hide in a mangrove thicket ).

You'd better post some pics

Honestly, the floaty tree spell could work for a deathworld. The trees are on the move and they HUNGER

 ChargerIIC wrote:

Danny76 wrote:
No one has mentioned these funky dice..

So Beautiful. So Unreadable.

But wonderful display pieces

 BrookM wrote:
Is he using one of them "ooop nooooorth" or whatever they're called accents?

West Country, that's where the farmers are. Up t'North is Mining Country and they speak like Dwarfs.

Also if you're looking for a decent Nurgle daemon name, seems Brexit is there for the taking since that's the delay they're talking about. Had seen some of the issues that caused with a recent kickstarter, given the time to ship from China immediately before was New Years when nothing gets done whilst everyone's on holiday. Wonder what knock on effects that'll have on the October/November release?

Danny76 wrote:

 ChargerIIC wrote:

Danny76 wrote:
No one has mentioned these funky dice..

So Beautiful. So Unreadable.

But wonderful display pieces

Or Sylvaneth objective markers.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
The tree has a Lamentiri.

The tree has a goddamned Aelf Soul in it.

It's finally happened people! MURDERTREE!

I want to see a one-on-one duel between a Vengeful Skullroot and a Feculent Gnarlmaw!

Duel... or mating display?

Voss wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
The tree has a Lamentiri.

The tree has a goddamned Aelf Soul in it.

It's finally happened people! MURDERTREE!

I want to see a one-on-one duel between a Vengeful Skullroot and a Feculent Gnarlmaw!

Duel... or mating display?

Yes.

i imagine the situation with Sylvaneth is linked to the sane thing as this https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/2186359/brexit-deadline-looms-asia-bound-ships-slow-boats-china-set

 plastictrees wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Nice trees.

Looks like the only purpose of splitting the Kurnoth Hunter entries is padding out page count. There's no difference apart from weapon profiles and a single special weapon rule on one warscroll.

It allows them to price them differently.

There are already instances of units having multiple cost entries based off wargear options without copy/pasting the whole warscroll, including Hedonites, the most recent tome. This is just to pad out the page count.

Quite possibly; if they're at 47 pages, 95, etc then they need something to put on that last page.

Or one of those warscrolls is battleline and the others aren't? or there's an effect that targets one but not the others (for example, another unit that affects Kurnoth Hunters with Kurnoth Greatbows specifically)

It appears to be a new general policy for GW since they did the same for Hellstriders in Slaanesh and yet the only difference between the two options is the weapon they use. Everything else is identical (including points).

It does tie into how they typically show models on the GW website by showing each different model even when they might be alternate versions from the same kit.

 Overread wrote:
It appears to be a new general policy for GW since they did the same for Hellstriders in Slaanesh and yet the only difference between the two options is the weapon they use. Everything else is identical (including points).

They didn't do it in the Fyreslayers book, and that only has 3 infantry units(not including characters). Vulkites have 3 weapon options, Hearth Berzerker's have 2 options and its 1 Warscroll for each.

My completely uninformed and baseless theory with no experience in publishing: Maybe they contracted X many pages and its "use or lose space"? But then they absolutely have to have copious amounts of art that could have taken up that space, so who the feth knows.

Point of fact to clarify for anyone that doesn’t know: because of the way book pages are printed in an array on a large sheet then folded and cut to make the final leaves, you can only add or remove an entire printed sheet, not an individual leaf. GW seems to prefer quarto binding, or sheets of eight pages, or four leaves, so your book will be a multiple of eight pages or the print cost goes way up because you have to request and get specific extra tooling or extra manual processing to allow a single leaf to be added.
This is why ‘extra space’ can be available or something can fail to fit even if it’s only a small addition. Or, rather, especially if it’s only a small addition.

The bow guys melee attack has always been a it confusing. Separating them cleans things up a bit.

The new floaty tree would be an amazing start for a Nurgle version of Hordes's Cassius and Wurmwood that I've had in my head for ages now. I'm super burned out from my Nurgle knightly order that just won't be finished, though.

So I'm kind of glad it won't come out right now.