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This is from the youtube channel French Wargame studio latest live, they said this yesterday and they were totally right about drukhari leaks in the live before this one.

Information Tidbits

Codex harlequins :
- There will be a Portal Fortification, 120Pts Not under 14HP 3+ 5++ T8, that you will set everywhere on the table but more than 12inch of enemy and more than 6 inch of objective, that will give the possibility to ds units from it, with a strat similar to necron if he is destroyed you can set them. After the portal is destroyed unit are not forced to be more than 9’’ to the enemy. Strongly implied that this unit will be available to aeldari.

- A warptime spell for Harlequin unit

Codex Deathwatch:

This is the go codex for primaris: they called it the codex Primawatch

- For primaris You can mix unit like this : 5 intercessors ( barebone) + a mix of 5 other miniatures from primaris ( for example agressors, hellbasters, interceptors)

Tactical flexibility stratagem to split your squad



- There will be a stratagem ( Teleportarium) to deepstrike a unit of death watch.

- Stratagem to give sniper rules on death watch unit against xenos . ( they take for example hellblasters sniping synapse tyranid)

- Stratagem auspex scan but work without deepstrike against xenos ( they take examples pointys ears that come at 12”inch and you shoot at them)

- Something to reroll wounds against troops? not precised if stratagem

- They talk about something that can remove tau markerlights? no idea of what type of things that can be



Kill team will be out the same month than deathwatch codex

Isn't Twilight Pathways from the index the warptime spell? Or do they mean something else? Still nice to hear some tidbits the fortification/portal sounds fun if it is true.

An actual webway portal would be pretty neat for the Aeldari (as long as they don't also remove the webway assault stratagem).

It could be this unsolved rumour engine teaser:

Seeing how that thing on the underside looks like a node from literally any sci-fi movie ever, I totally agree!

 rollawaythestone wrote:
An actual webway portal would be pretty neat for the Aeldari (as long as they don't also remove the webway assault stratagem).

It could be this unsolved rumour engine teaser:

Oh good spot ! That would be nice, even if we do net get new models !

Sarevokk wrote:
Kill team will be out the same month than deathwatch codex

Oh my, not long now then!

I really hope the existing DW get help. It has sounded very Primaris focused so far.

Interesting how there's no actual information for Harlequins here. A webway portal fortification that any Aeldari army can use is hardly Harlequin specific and they already have a warptime spell in Twilight Pathways.

 Eldarain wrote:
I really hope the existing DW get help. It has sounded very Primaris focused so far.

Same here. Primaris are cool and all but the DW Kill team is a great kit that's far to new to be consigned to the back of the shelf.
Hopefully the DW will get greater access to the non Primaris SM range as well. Cataphractii and Tartaros Terminators, the Stormtalon/Stormhawk, both types of Centurions and the rest of the Dreadnought types would IMO all be good fits for the DW

Sarevokk wrote:
This is the go codex for primaris: they called it the codex Primawatch

I'd really like to see his reasoning, because right now, DW primaris are useless. No chapter tactics means every other possible primaris unit is better, no synergy with DW wargear means there is literally zero reason to take them in DW list.

Of course, if DW got some sort of chapter tactic now, and DW primaris can take xenophase blades like BA ones can take chainswords, and primaris bolters now have special ammo...

He might very well be right

you really think Codex Deathwatch will be the first codex featuring no army wide tactic?

None of it matters of this kinda nonsense remains in the DW Codex.

 rollawaythestone wrote:
An actual webway portal would be pretty neat for the Aeldari (as long as they don't also remove the webway assault stratagem).

It could be this unsolved rumour engine teaser:

It's pretty obvious that the picture is Eldar in some form. This would make sense, and even though the codex schedule has been a bit dry on model releases, they have still happened from time to time. Armigers and the Cryptek and such. So It wouldn't surprise me.

I dream of one day having a mass of all the different eldar. This would make that quite freaking awesome!



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GoatboyBeta wrote:

 Eldarain wrote:
I really hope the existing DW get help. It has sounded very Primaris focused so far.

Same here. Primaris are cool and all but the DW Kill team is a great kit that's far to new to be consigned to the back of the shelf.
Hopefully the DW will get greater access to the non Primaris SM range as well. Cataphractii and Tartaros Terminators, the Stormtalon/Stormhawk, both types of Centurions and the rest of the Dreadnought types would IMO all be good fits for the DW

Honestly ALL of the marine codacies should just be one big ass book. It would save SO much time. Most people I know who play marines never restrict themselves to one chapter anyways, you can run whatever you like as long as its all declared and legal, paint scheme be damned.

We should be hearing more tidbits soon. The portal sounds cool though really I am really curious to see Harlie strats and other goodies!

Definitely interested in the Harlequins! There are so many exciting possibilities with them. I really hope they get some new units too. Even more harlequin-ized Aeldari stuff (with rules and model support) would be welcome.

Or maybe not, since I will then be forced to buy them :( haha

I'd love to we DW intercessors get special issue ammo. 30 inch range while wounding on a 2+ would be godly.

 Togusa wrote:


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GoatboyBeta wrote:

 Eldarain wrote:
I really hope the existing DW get help. It has sounded very Primaris focused so far.

Same here. Primaris are cool and all but the DW Kill team is a great kit that's far to new to be consigned to the back of the shelf.
Hopefully the DW will get greater access to the non Primaris SM range as well. Cataphractii and Tartaros Terminators, the Stormtalon/Stormhawk, both types of Centurions and the rest of the Dreadnought types would IMO all be good fits for the DW

Honestly ALL of the marine codacies should just be one big ass book. It would save SO much time. Most people I know who play marines never restrict themselves to one chapter anyways, you can run whatever you like as long as its all declared and legal, paint scheme be damned.

If all the marine codices were one book how would they make money selling so many different codices?

 Tibs Ironblood wrote:

 Togusa wrote:


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GoatboyBeta wrote:

 Eldarain wrote:
I really hope the existing DW get help. It has sounded very Primaris focused so far.

Same here. Primaris are cool and all but the DW Kill team is a great kit that's far to new to be consigned to the back of the shelf.
Hopefully the DW will get greater access to the non Primaris SM range as well. Cataphractii and Tartaros Terminators, the Stormtalon/Stormhawk, both types of Centurions and the rest of the Dreadnought types would IMO all be good fits for the DW

Honestly ALL of the marine codacies should just be one big ass book. It would save SO much time. Most people I know who play marines never restrict themselves to one chapter anyways, you can run whatever you like as long as its all declared and legal, paint scheme be damned.

If all the marine codices were one book how would they make money selling so many different codices?

Because that codex money would be folded back into model sales!

you really think Codex Deathwatch will be the first codex featuring no army wide tactic?

I don't believe they should get an army tactic, being that they are the rejects from all the chapters. But that is why they get specialized wargear instead.

Justyn wrote:

you really think Codex Deathwatch will be the first codex featuring no army wide tactic?

I don't believe they should get an army tactic, being that they are the rejects from all the chapters. But that is why they get specialized wargear instead.

Uhh, Deathwatch is the best from all of the Chapters, and loyalists from traitor chapters.

Uhh, Deathwatch is the best from all of the Chapters, and loyalists from traitor chapters.

Sure.

Commander we need to send the Deathwatch some men. They request the very best we have. Well what do they do? Sir they hunt Xenos. Wait, don't we do that? Why yes we do! Send them recruit bob and jim, tell them they have done absolutely amazing, we have never seen better recruits, we will honor them with a special privilege. Great idea sir.

That might be your head-canon and that's fine, but it's stated pretty clearly in the books that they're the best of the best and secondment to the deathwatch is a huge honour.

Most of the Marine join the Deathwatch as a field trip and return to their Chapter after their duty is done. If they are really good they can even keep the silver Deathwatch left arm armor and shoulderpad, which is a great honor. Only a few for some particular reason was suggested to stay in the DW indefinitely.

Justyn wrote:
Commander we need to send the Deathwatch some men. They request the very best we have. Well what do they do? Sir they hunt Xenos. Wait, don't we do that? Why yes we do! Send them recruit bob and jim, tell them they have done absolutely amazing, we have never seen better recruits, we will honor them with a special privilege. Great idea sir.

Nope, it doesn't work that way. DW is one big dickwaving contest - sure, you can send bad recruit, but it means every Astartes present is going to laugh at them and suddenly you have a dozen neighboring chapters circulating the stories how inept your own is. Only chapters that don't give a damn about their reputation will send someone others can feel superior to and belittle.

Surprised no one have put forward the "correct" answer I have always taken from the fluff.

Some Chapters send their best to learn and bring back skills and knowledge (those not forbidden by their NDA pledges) and would be mortified if their "best and brightest" washed out or somehow disgraced their chapter.
Examples of this would be Ultras, Imperial Fist etc.

Then you got the Chapters who send them to keep the Inquisition off their backs or to investigate their own agendas.
Examples being the poor Lamentors and sneaky Dark Angels rooting out for Blackshields who might be a little too used to black armour.

And then there are others (coughSpaceWolvescough) who take don't give as much attention to the social standing and send marines who cause them trouble to get them out of their hair for a decade or so, or who could learn some lessons in playing nice by being integrated into mixed units.

...so everyone is half right-ish?


I am really looking forward to this, and hope we get a few more flexible options. As for the "no model = no rules" it is easy enough to have a "Deathwatch Primaris" box with a basic sprue and then a few shoulderpads and special weapons that they attach to 1 or more of the Primaris sets.

 Irbis wrote:
DW is one big dickwaving contest...

Doesn't really work that way either.

I really like the idea of more armies getting unique 'fortifications' that can be used for their armies.

I agree Kanluwen,

When I played against actual humans last, I always had the idea of a Thunderbird or something airdropping my Aegis Line just before my foot-sloggers arrived and my pods dropped.

I would be totally behind some specific stuff, not sure how to justify it cost wise with production and distro costs but I would love it.

 Vain wrote:
I agree Kanluwen,

When I played against actual humans last, I always had the idea of a Thunderbird or something airdropping my Aegis Line just before my foot-sloggers arrived and my pods dropped.

I would be totally behind some specific stuff, not sure how to justify it cost wise with production and distro costs but I would love it.

I think giving stuff rules like the Gnarlmaws got would be a good way to ensure the stuff is if not outright desirable but at least enticing options.

They change the dynamic of the army significantly but aren't necessarily going to be "OMG MUST HAVES!".

Justyn wrote:

you really think Codex Deathwatch will be the first codex featuring no army wide tactic?

I don't believe they should get an army tactic, being that they are the rejects from all the chapters. But that is why they get specialized wargear instead.

I think you need to re-read your Deathwatch lore.. assignment to service under Deathwatch is sometimes a punishment/act of atonement for a massive failure, but a lot of the recruits are some of the chapter's best, usually put up for recommendation due to exceptional experience or prowess shown fighting Xenos. I mean, you going to call Ortan Cassius, the Master of Sanctity of the Ultramarines chapter a washout?