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H.B.M.C:
We can tie him up and make him carry on a conversation with JohnHwang as punishment.

then i might aswell tag along, simply to spend some time in the bar

I hope the author gets it right, because we are talking about a lot of junk kicking!!

I think that we have passed into the realm of permanent damage.

jp400 wrote:H.B.M.C:
We can tie him up and make his carry on a conversation with JohnHwang as punishment.

I'll be there too, so so I can watch the two craziest posters on dakka shout at eachother about little plastic men.

If you're there it'll be the three craziest people, Shummy my man.

But three's a crowd, so I'll leave you and DD to it and head to the Bugman's with JD21290.

BYE

And we've derailed the thread again... hmmm...

Ok, so, yeah, back on topic.

Warseer has done a third edition of their summary. The most frightening part of it is:

The Cadian and Catachan Boxes are reportedly 10 man sets WITHOUT a heavy weapon included. The kits are supposedly unchanged in sculpts and contents. The Catachans supposedly will NOT have scaled down arms.

So 1/2 the models for 2/3rds the price, as predicted. No HW sprue would really suck, and makes me feel better about buying that box'o'20 Cadians last week.

BYE

H.B.M.C. wrote:And I'll come with you to hunt down Jervis. Not for any specific reason mind you, I just think it needs to be done.

BYE

Yes, it does.

H.B.M.C. wrote:And we've derailed the thread again... hmmm...

Ok, so, yeah, back on topic.

Warseer has done a third edition of their summary. The most frightening part of it is:

The Cadian and Catachan Boxes are reportedly 10 man sets WITHOUT a heavy weapon included. The kits are supposedly unchanged in sculpts and contents. The Catachans supposedly will NOT have scaled down arms.

So 1/2 the models for 2/3rds the price, as predicted. No HW sprue would really suck, and makes me feel better about buying that box'o'20 Cadians last week.

BYE

Egad...........
Say it aint so.

Argh, the KP issue would be so easy to fix!

Just make it so normal guard infantry squads (non platoon command squads) do not give up KPs!

That would bring IG forces more in line with the average KPs in most armies...


As for no HW in IG 10man boxes, i really hope that does not come true. Better buy some more boxes of cadians...

The new warseer sumary, says anyone who can take a chimera now will be able to get valkyries. How likely do you folks think that is? If it is we might see some flying ogryn squads.

AlfredTheStrange wrote:The new warseer sumary, says anyone who can take a chimera now will be able to get valkyries. How likely do you folks think that is? If it is we might see some flying ogryn squads.

Unless they can assault out of it it doesnt seem worth it for a transport. They probably are an exception to that rule anyway, its hard enough to get them into a chimera.

H.B.M.C. wrote:No HW sprue would really suck, and makes me feel better about buying that box'o'20 Cadians last week.

shame on you! buying more guardsmen and tanks is it's own reward! as a loyal servant of the god-emperor, it's heresy to want more!!!!

AlfredTheStrange wrote:The new warseer sumary, says anyone who can take a chimera now will be able to get valkyries. How likely do you folks think that is? If it is we might see some flying ogryn squads.

They released a plastic Carnifex and let you take 6 of them in an army.
They released a plastic Elf Dragon and let you take more than usual in a High Elf army.
They released a plastic Stegadon and let everyone take one as a mount or a unit or whatever.

They're releasing a plastic Valk... do you think they're going to add restrictions or take them away.

BYE

H.B.M.C. wrote:

AlfredTheStrange wrote:The new warseer sumary, says anyone who can take a chimera now will be able to get valkyries. How likely do you folks think that is? If it is we might see some flying ogryn squads.

They released a plastic Carnifex and let you take 6 of them in an army.
They released a plastic Elf Dragon and let you take more than usual in a High Elf army.
They released a plastic Stegadon and let everyone take one as a mount or a unit or whatever.

They're releasing a plastic Valk... do you think they're going to add restrictions or take them away.

BYE

They released a plastic chaos spawn! Look at all of those in peoples armies! Plastic obliter... Wait.. No.. Umm.. What were we talking about? Whiny delusions? Their nob biker sales must be through the roof.

Also are you seriously suggesting that because they aren't making a GIANT SOLID METAL TANK ON A FLYING BASE that they are going to overpower it in order to sell more?

:edit: Also, I'm not even sure if it would be overpowering. It's just a fast skimmer tank carrying guardsman. It's like an easier to kill falcon, it's hardly six carnifexes or seven landraiders. Though really thats all point dependent.

H.B.M.C. wrote:And we've derailed the thread again... hmmm...

Ok, so, yeah, back on topic.

Warseer has done a third edition of their summary. The most frightening part of it is:

The Cadian and Catachan Boxes are reportedly 10 man sets WITHOUT a heavy weapon included. The kits are supposedly unchanged in sculpts and contents. The Catachans supposedly will NOT have scaled down arms.

So 1/2 the models for 2/3rds the price, as predicted. No HW sprue would really suck, and makes me feel better about buying that box'o'20 Cadians last week.

BYE

Hmm, good thing I've been picking up boxes of Cadians then.

ShumaGorath wrote:They released a plastic chaos spawn! Look at all of those in peoples armies! Plastic obliter... Wait.. No.. Umm.. What were we talking about? Whiny delusions? Their nob biker sales must be through the roof.

You are such a fething bore Shummy. This isn't about rules and overpowering and all that other crap. Pay attention.

ShumaGorath wrote:Also are you seriously suggesting that because they aren't making a GIANT SOLID METAL TANK ON A FLYING BASE that they are going to overpower it in order to sell more?

I'm actually not suggesting that they're going to overpower it. What I'm suggesting is that their biggest new plastic kit will be made available to as many units as possible so that people can buy lots of them if they want them, just like Tyranid players were suddenly allowed to buy loads of Carnifexes and use them all at once/Dragons all at once/Stegadons all at once.

For Guard, the Valk is the release, so they're hardly going to limit the amount you can take in the army by any significant amount. It'd make no sense to release a new Stegadon and then make it so you could only take 1 in an army, now would it? Same applies to the Valk. Everyone will want want it, so lets maximise it and allow lots of different units to take it as a transport, so people can buy heaps.

Win/win for everyone as far as I'm concerned. I'm getting 6.

BYE

I wouldn't be too surprised when the "interview" of the author in the May issue would result in a "this is the best incarnation yet and I'd suggest we all buy loads of new stuff because it is the awesomest stuff yet and we should all do it. Sorry mister Lantham but could you now remove your hand from my rectum as your interactions with my spine are giving me a headache."

Maybe that Lukas Bastogne chap will be the drop trooper guy you need to take for all your Valkyrie fetishism.

Okay, JWolf of BolS is making a "dream list" in regards to the Imperial Guard codex. Could someone tell me what the snackerdoodle that git is smoking? A heavy platoon? A penal platoon?

The good news I'm hearing is, if we can get two special weapons in one squad, I'll be ditching all my heavy weapons except heavy bolters, Autocannons, and Lascannons, all of which were on big bases anyways. So no rebasing! Anyone want a buttload of mortars, missile launchers, and metal figures (snipers, meltas, plasmas, etc)?

Oy! GW! Previews of the new book already!

Well, with 3 months to go we can now begin the countdown:

T-62 days to launch of Codex:IG...

Chimera_Calvin wrote:Well, with 3 months to go we can now begin the countdown:

T-62 days to launch of Codex:IG...

*Shrug* I'm just waiting until my local gW store gets the preview copy in and then I'm stealing it. That's how I got all my other Codexes.

Obi-wan has taught you well...

But three's a crowd, so I'll leave you and DD to it and head to the Bugman's with JD21290.

drinking solves all arguments.
mainly as you either forget the point in the argument, or no one can understand you after a while

H.B.M.C. wrote:And I'll come with you to hunt down Jervis. Not for any specific reason mind you, I just think it needs to be done.

BYE

but....but....jervis is YOUR homeboy

How come these Data Sheets look familiar.... I think I may have seen them before the last Guard Codex came out....

ShumaGorath wrote:
Also are you seriously suggesting that because they aren't making a GIANT SOLID METAL TANK ON A FLYING BASE that they are going to overpower it in order to sell more?

Two words Shuma: Eldar Harlequins!

And in case you missed it, here's something interesting about Kill Points:

from the kiddie pool:
Platoons are rumoured to be able to merge into one big unit (sort of the opposite of Space Marine combat squads). The IG player chooses at the beginning of the game to deploy either as a singe unit or as separate squads. If deployed as a unit, they will probably have to stay within coherency, but will count as 1 Kill Point. If deployed separately they yield individual KPs.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

AlfredTheStrange wrote:The new warseer sumary, says anyone who can take a chimera now will be able to get valkyries. How likely do you folks think that is? If it is we might see some flying ogryn squads.

They released a plastic Carnifex and let you take 6 of them in an army.
They released a plastic Elf Dragon and let you take more than usual in a High Elf army.
They released a plastic Stegadon and let everyone take one as a mount or a unit or whatever.

They're releasing a plastic Valk... do you think they're going to add restrictions or take them away.

BYE

fair enough. I suppose pricing will decide how widely used it is.

Anung Un Rama wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:
And in case you missed it, here's something interesting about Kill Points:

from the kiddie pool:
Platoons are rumoured to be able to merge into one big unit (sort of the opposite of Space Marine combat squads). The IG player chooses at the beginning of the game to deploy either as a singe unit or as separate squads. If deployed as a unit, they will probably have to stay within coherency, but will count as 1 Kill Point. If deployed separately they yield individual KPs.

that would be prety intresting, lead to some intresting trade offs. Biger less flexible squads for fewer KPs or smaller flexible squads for lots of KPs . If you could decide how to split/combine the platoon this would be handy, but if you have to take a single 50 man squad I think it would be to unweildy. (50 man squads could be overkill in shooting leading to wasted shots). *eddit, this was writen by me, not Anung, I did something odd with the quotes and im unsure how to fix it. don't want to put words in Anung mouth.

Wasted shots? They're lasguns.

50-man squads would be horrible, but not thanks to "wasted lasguns." One failed pinning check would lock up five times the amount it usually does.

On a rather unfortunate note, Warseer is reporting that the squad box will NOT come with a heavy weapon, that support Sentinels are a Heavy Support choice, and that the new Leman Russ will cost 150 points without sponsons, which will go up in price.