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So I just got back from lunch.

After reading this thread, I couldn't help but buy a donut. Not a Krispy Kreme donut, oh no. Those things are the stuff of legend around sleepy old Adelaide. Occasionally someone will bring in a box of Krispy Cremes on a plane from Melbourne (Yes, we air freight them in)... but they're never really fresh that way, are they. So I went to Gourmet Glaze - basically a Krispy Creme knock off, but I haven't had frsh Krispy Kremes so I couldn't compare the quality.

So I gets to thinking, we call the large blast marker pie. But it has a hole in the middle. And what is a pie with a hole in the middle, but a donut? I for one shall now shout "Eat flaming donut!" every time I fire my incendiary castellan rounds. Maybe that's a reason to take the Nova cannon - flaming donuts.

I need to plan out this new Guard army. I had one once upon a time, a PDF militia. A back of the book army form an expansion, and for some reason GW doesn't support it anymore! Come on, they had half a page at the back of a supplement, they should be supported for ever, bad form GW so after a year or so of trying to bash it into a legal list and telling my opponent "All the Autoguns are Lasguns, the Heavy Stubbers are Autocannons, the Plasma Cannon is a Plasma Gun.." I gave up, and sold most of it off. Still have the Russ and Demolisher, and a few Necro gangs (Escher, Ratskins, Van Saar... lots of Van Saar..).

New plan is to do the Piscina PDF. Make an army to go alongside my Dark Angels in Apocalypse games. Paint them all up in the Dark Angels colour scheme. Which happens to be exactly the same as the Cadian 8th colour scheme on the front of the current IG codex... so I'll have to put lots of Dark Angels icons on them, too. Then everyone who complained when I wanted to use Marines painted as Dark Angels with Codex: Space Marines can complain that I'm using the Imperial Guard codex with models painted as Dark Angels, hah!

I've got a couple of heavy weapon teams (that I bought purely for the 60mm bases.. most expensive bases ever..). Have to figure out how to base them now. I was planning to base them individually and give them missile launchers, looks like that's no go now. A shame, I was planning to use GF9 Daemon movement trays to make deployment easier. I might go Tank heavy instead, to match the mechanised Dark Angels. That makes more sense, and more apocalyptic. But there's just not enough Heavy slots! And will I repaint my old tanks? They look awful but have sentimental value (they're covered in graffiti by the PDF gangs you see). And I'll have to get a Nova cannon.

For the Flaming Donuts.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Ivan wrote:Respectfully,
-John

*gasp* Your name's John too? But your user name is Ivan. See now I'm confused.



BYE

See how he said respectfully? That's how you can tell the difference

What I'm wondering is how much my stormtroopers are going to cost now that they can actually kill space marines with little to no sweat.

I also thought conscripts were leaving, never used them so them staying is no big deal for me. I want to see some of the special rules though.

AND what about that weapon that counts as both a pistol and a sniper. I mean a rending pistol is nice.

I showed the list of weapons to some of my Space Marines players and they instantly called shenanigans and prayed that the new Space Wolves codex would destroy the IG.

H.B.M.C. wrote:I think Yarrick getting T4 is good enough. Nothing was more heartbreaking that seeing a T3 Yarrick, or 'Yarrick-Lite' as I called him, in the last Codex.

Hopefully he'll get Eternal Warrior and will become the toughest human in the game, as he should be.

BYE

You can be glad if he's not "slow and purposeful" with his wheelchair. I don't know if he's the toughest human in the game, but he sure is the oldest

halonachos wrote:AND what about that weapon that counts as both a pistol and a sniper. I mean a rending pistol is nice.

That's Sly Marbo's Ripper Pistol.

BOY!

They used to have Krispy Cream down in Hong Kong, whenever someone came up on a business trip they were required to bring a box or 3 for the office.

But they closed down.

I know its for balance and its only Str 3, but the Helguns being ap3 is kinda weird. AP4 sure, possibly. But AP 3??? At AP4 they would be really useful against a lot of Xenos, but AP3 is truly aimed at Marines. They really are making power armor not as important as it use to be.

Of course, stormtroopers would have to drop to 7-8 points to make them worth it.

I think the AP is great. For the longest time Ive had a 10 man storm trooper squad with only 8 guys painted. They just sucked too much to want to paint. Now I will finish it. We also have areason to take ogryn again.

My friends you play IG will be happy to hear this.

Don't think this has been posted on Dakka yet (and if it has I damn well couldn't find it when I looked): the parts from the new command squad boxes.

It's been posted :p

Do we know yet how the troop section is organized in the new 'Dex? I heard they changed the platoon rule.

From what I heard platoons are still the minimum of one command squad and two infantry squads. The other three squads may either be infantry or support squads.

Da Blak Gobbo wrote:So far everything I've read about the new IG seems pretty solid and can't wait till May. Although I'm slightly saddened by the lowering of initiative across the board for the guard, now more in line with 'normal' humans. It's like Krispy Kreme Doughnuts had a galactic sale and the whole of the Imperial Guard decided to stop by for a bite.

OK, I guess my comment about the Doughnuts completely derailed the tread for a few pages and eclipsed my earlier point, so i'll try again. Why have our characters and supporting units (commissars ect.) suddenly gotten slower? I used to love having my PW wielding commissar and officer strike before marines (with hardened fighters of course) or at LEAST the same time. Even the characters are slow except for Sly Rambo...I mean Marbo . So far so good though, all we need now is a kick ass fluff section and a good gallery and the book will be great.

For the cadian command squad, is the arm with the power sword a robotic arm?

They may have dropped everyone to Initiative 3, but they are handing out BS4 much more freely

The big thing I'm wondering about right now is whether heavy weapon squads (support squads?) will be 10 or 6 wounds.

Does anyone have any idea what we can expect from the penal legionaires? Or how the priests are used this time around?

I'm already looking forward to adding some corrupted Guard units to my Death Guard.

Penal legionaires could be fearless or stubborn, from what I've heard.

But does anyone know how to get the infinite items in Pokemon Leaf green, I just picked it up again and I don't remember how.

Oh, and if I can I'm gonna get 3 deathstrikes just for the hell of it. I mean the chance of a 12inch S10 AP1 blast is just too good to pass up for anything. I look forward to eliminating my enemy with these alone, even if they are impossible to fire.

It's March! Soon we will actually see some damn preorders go up! Yay!!!

@halonachos I think you can only do it in Emerald, not Leaf Green.

BrookM wrote:From what I heard platoons are still the minimum of one command squad and two infantry squads. The other three squads may either be infantry or support squads.

Warseer has some interesting rumors about how KPs might be handled with them too...

I've got a feeling that the KP issue will be ignored with the codex.

BrookM wrote:From what I heard platoons are still the minimum of one command squad and two infantry squads. The other three squads may either be infantry or support squads.

Ah! That is such a good idea.

Out of all the things we've done with The Revisited Project, Guard is the one that's had me the most stumped. I'm looking forward to see how GW does this because I need some inspiration.

BrookM wrote:I've got a feeling that the KP issue will be ignored with the codex.

I've got a feeling that GW don't even realise that KP's are an issue for Guard.

BYE

BrookM wrote:I've got a feeling that the KP issue will be ignored with the codex.

Ive got that feeling myself..

If it is true, their are going to be ALOT of sad guard players in the world.

Also any other long time guard players besides myself think its funny how 12 months ago hardly anyone wanted to play guard other then "die hards" and now if you look at the swap shop every other submission is someone trying to get guard?

The thing with KP's is that the Imperial Guard is about the only army affected in a bad way by this, which is for GW not enough reason to FAQ it.

Tau, also, are affected but won't see a new dex for at least 1&1/2 years.

At least better mechanization should make objectives easier. Fixing the kill points issue would be harder since the independent ten man squad of T3 5+ save models appears to be a fairly fundamental part of how the guard works. At we don't appear to have gotten any worse. Infantry squads are still ten wounds, support squads might also be ten wounds, and unless they did something silly like pile on more mandatory ICs command squads can't possibly get any worse than the current implementation.

Dont even joke about that!!!!! KP's ruin IG at the moment, it isn't even funny. If they do not address KP's I will fly to Nottingham and ninja kick the author of this codex in the junk!

Reecius wrote:Dont even joke about that!!!!! KP's ruin IG at the moment, it isn't even funny. If they do not address KP's I will fly to Nottingham and ninja kick the author of this codex in the junk!

Book the seat next to you on the plane, cause ill be the guy holding the Author so you can kick him in the balls hopefully with steel toed boots.

And I'll come with you to hunt down Jervis. Not for any specific reason mind you, I just think it needs to be done.

BYE