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Teaser trailer from DC FanDome. Not bad considering Reeves has only shot like 25% of the film. Think it gives a taste of where he's going with it. I watched the panel, and I *really* like what he said there. As has been reported, it's not an original story but will feature a young Batman still figuring things out and struggling with himself. As the teaser shows, it starts with a murder mystery, and as he pulls on threads the story gets bigger.

We can argue about Batmobiles or Batsuits all day long, but I'm psyked to get a Batman being a detective.





Edit: That's Colin Farrell as the Penguin. Crazy!

I think there are just some heros that, at this point, just need to be retired from media for a bit, Batman is one of them, he is so played out i think

I am going to argue about batsuits and batmobiles.

I love them.

I think that is the best looking of both we have seen on screen in live action so far.

The batmobile is practical and can actually maneuver on a road.

The Batsuit is armored in a way that doesn't make it bulky or weird. He LOOKS like batman. I don't really understand what the tubes on the gauntlets are for yet, but the rest of it is all aces.

I LOVE that its a murder mystery. I am so glad we get a detective Batman again. Riddler? Yes please. Practical Catwoman? Yes please. Penguin as an arms dealer? Yes please.

This is the first DC property I think I am actually excited for in like... a decade.


Here are my hopes.

1) No guns for Batman.
2) No killing for Batman.
3) He actually solves the murder mystery and isn't some kind of idiot that gets the plot explained to him at the end of the movie ala Christian Bale.

That actually looks pretty decent.

And there's a fight where Batman curbstomps one goon, and makes the others fear him. That's what Batman is meant to do.

Colin Ferrell cast as the Penguin has my attention.

Was not expecting the Court of Owls, a pleasant surprise to be sure, and all the "?" makes me wonder if the Riddler will play some part in it. Nice to see the mystery/Detective element apparently being an important part of the film.

Paul Dano is playing the Riddler.

Where are you getting court of owls from?

 Lance845 wrote:
Where are you getting court of owls from?

There's not much I saw. Just the card easter egg. Though all the references to lies and what Bruce doesn't know about his family/cities history could definitely point that way (but I'd expect more in a mostly resolved in a sequel sense)

Is that Robert Pattinson? Lol, easy pass then.

I presume that Jeffrey Wright is playing Gordon; how did I miss the announcement that Jeffrey Wright is playing Gordon?!

Also using the Riddler in a mystery thriller style is a great way to differentiate this film from all of the other recent films. Rather than dark and gritty, this has a brooding, almost arty, atmosphere to it. Sort of reminds me of Seven and/or The Crow (and that is a good thing!)

I can be down for a more grounded murder mystery detective story. It’s why Grave of the Batman is my current favorite of the Batman comics. That and it has peak Alfred sass.

Looks....ok I guess

Kinda cut price Batman, Catwoman and co

 Eldarain wrote:

 Lance845 wrote:
Where are you getting court of owls from?

There's not much I saw. Just the card easter egg. Though all the references to lies and what Bruce doesn't know about his family/cities history could definitely point that way (but I'd expect more in a mostly resolved in a sequel sense)

Yeah, Reeves’ comments during the panel did seem to point to CoO.

This has a chance to be really good.

something about the Mask seems off to me, not sure what though

It was great... He just really needs a haircut, he's got The Crow trending from it.

I don’t know the director’s intent, but to me he looks appropriately haggard. Like a guy who’s up all night every night. Like maybe he hasn’t had time to get a haircut. Still figuring out the Bruce vs Bats balance.

Oh...and what does a liar do when he’s dead?

He lies still.

BrianDavion wrote:
something about the Mask seems off to me, not sure what though

Same for me. I think it's because it seems to be more of a helmet than a cowel, like it has space between it and the head/face for padding etc.

Whilst him dishing out a physical pasting is in line with what we expect of batman nowadays... He looks too small. I'm not one for a small and agile batman personally, other heroes can get away with it due to super powers, but now amount of martial arts is going to help you when you go against someone who is trained and out sizes you.

He doesn't need to be overtly stacked, but he looks more like bat boy than bat man.

From the DCFandome thing yesterday, this is supposed to be Year Two of his career.

Make of it what you will.

 Lance845 wrote:
Where are you getting court of owls from?

I was talking to someone and mixed two different things that were released at the DC event. Court of Owls was shown in the Gotham Knights trailer.

Well I’m cautiously optimistic for it. Especially since they’re going down the detective route. Maybe it’s because I’ve been on a Fargo binge but I’m all for more detective stuff.

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
He looks too small. I'm not one for a small and agile batman personally, other heroes can get away with it due to super powers, but now amount of martial arts is going to help you when you go against someone who is trained and out sizes you.

How many gangbangers are actually trained, though, as opposed to picking up bits and pieces on the mean streets of Gotham?

It's not like he's going to have to deal with the likes of Lady Shiva, David Cain, Deathstroke, etc.

 Ahtman wrote:

 Lance845 wrote:
Where are you getting court of owls from?

I was talking to someone and mixed two different things that were released at the DC event. Court of Owls was shown in the Gotham Knights trailer.

You may actually be right though. In the panel, Reeves talked about how Bruce will discover things about his family and the city of Gotham. Also...look at what’s on the cover of the card from the Riddler. Would be interesting to have the Riddler as the villain, but one carrying a warning about a greater threat.

 Dysartes wrote:

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
He looks too small. I'm not one for a small and agile batman personally, other heroes can get away with it due to super powers, but now amount of martial arts is going to help you when you go against someone who is trained and out sizes you.

How many gangbangers are actually trained, though, as opposed to picking up bits and pieces on the mean streets of Gotham?

It's not like he's going to have to deal with the likes of Lady Shiva, David Cain, Deathstroke, etc.

Yeah sorry, I meant he is small for your very capable villains, some you have just named... Not necessarily your run of the mill crew people, though some would be conditioned and trained you would have thought, he still looks too small for them also. I think if Pattinson reprises the role for more than one film, and in line with the idea this is a new/young/inexperienced batman in this film, he needs to bulk up a bit and put on some size for future iterations tbh. Like I said, Batman, not batboy.

If this is meant to be a Year Two Bat, then the lack of physical size makes sense. Even without size, a "bottle covey" mindset in a fight may still carry him through.

Riddler/Penguin/Catwoman feel about the right tier of villain for this level of Bat - he hasn't yet earned the title of "Detective" from Ra's, Bane has yet to hear of him, and a number of his Big Villains probably haven't even taken their first steps to villainhood yet, outside of the organised crime families.

Looks good to me, and I also thought of The Crow from that shot at the end

 Dysartes wrote:
If this is meant to be a Year Two Bat, then the lack of physical size makes sense. Even without size, a "bottle covey" mindset in a fight may still carry him through.

Riddler/Penguin/Catwoman feel about the right tier of villain for this level of Bat - he hasn't yet earned the title of "Detective" from Ra's, Bane has yet to hear of him, and a number of his Big Villains probably haven't even taken their first steps to villainhood yet, outside of the organised crime families.

Yeah Reeves said that Selina isn’t yet fully Catwoman and Cobblepot is called the Penguin but hates it.

Edit: I don’t think he looks that small in the batsuit.

I must be stupid, I couldn’t make out the penguin in the trailer.

 Future War Cultist wrote:
I must be stupid, I couldn’t make out the penguin in the trailer.

It's a single shot of colin farrel with some makeup/prosthetics(?) to fuggly him up. Basically nothing to go by.

 Blackie wrote:
Is that Robert Pattinson? Lol, easy pass then.

Any other role, I would agree with you. But man, Batman? You can never ever call it. Who would have thought that Michael Keaton - Mr. Mom - would make a great Batman? Who would have thought that peak fame George Clooney would be a terrible Batman? Or that Gigli would be the only good part of the non-Wonder Woman DCEU?

I now always reserve judgement on Batman castings.