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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
Gert wrote: Looks cool.
I am a bit worried that the whole thing is planned as a trilogy before the first part is even out.
It's not. It's a duology as it only has the two films, both of which have release dates as seen at the end of the teaser (22 December 2023 for A Child of Fire and 19 April 2024 for The Scargiver).
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
Sophia Boutella hasn't had the best track record of ending up with the best roles, so if her agent has landed her the lead I do worry about the script.
This feels like the type of movie that has to start with a long-winded live action prologue or blocks of text to give everyone context, and if you're starting (as Snyder has) with talk about how he hopes this can grow into a massive sci-fi universe franchise before the first one is even out (and out on Netflix no less, a service with a track record of pretty bad original movies that have money just thrown at them), then that sends up all sorts of warning flags.
The cast does look interesting, and I appreciate that the first shot is somehow in slow motion ( ), but this has train wreck written all over it. Like Jupiter Ascending vibes.
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That looks awful, too busy and doesn't seem to be doing anything original, just more loud noises with busy CGI, and a voice over trying to invoke grandness.
Also, it's on Netflix... so more yeah, not a good track record.
The objective of the game is to win. The point of the game is to have fun. The two should never be confused.
Well, that certainly wears its... 50-odd influences on its skin.
I was weathering it fairly well until suddenly griffins and it went from Star Dune Robot Wars with a touch (anvil) of Gladiator to Harry Eragon. And back.
I am less concerned over whether this will be good or not (I have seen plenty of good stuff on netflix despite the bunches of bad) and more concerned with whether this gets canceled after season 2 regardless of whether it's good or not.
That is, after all, the Netflix way.
These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
Sophia Boutella hasn't had the best track record of ending up with the best roles, so if her agent has landed her the lead I do worry about the script.
This feels like the type of movie that has to start with a long-winded live action prologue or blocks of text to give everyone context, and if you're starting (as Snyder has) with talk about how he hopes this can grow into a massive sci-fi universe franchise before the first one is even out (and out on Netflix no less, a service with a track record of pretty bad original movies that have money just thrown at them), then that sends up all sorts of warning flags.
The cast does look interesting, and I appreciate that the first shot is somehow in slow motion ( ), but this has train wreck written all over it. Like Jupiter Ascending vibes.
Honestly, I expect this to be like most of Snyder's works. It'll be over the top but with some stuff that's kinda amazing, and then some thing(s) where you end up saying "what were you thinking?!?" out loud to the screen. I don't find his movies to truly be 100% awful...just kinda maddening.
Lance845 wrote: I am less concerned over whether this will be good or not (I have seen plenty of good stuff on netflix despite the bunches of bad) and more concerned with whether this gets canceled after season 2 regardless of whether it's good or not.
Lance845 wrote: I am less concerned over whether this will be good or not (I have seen plenty of good stuff on netflix despite the bunches of bad) and more concerned with whether this gets canceled after season 2 regardless of whether it's good or not.
It's a movie, not a series.
It's a movie that, from what I have gathered in this thread, is planned to have sequels. Imagine Starwars episode 4, then episode 5 comes out, then Netflix cancels the rest of the plans.
These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
AduroT wrote: It sounds like he’s trying to make his own Snyderverse without DC.
It's based on a screenplay that he co-wrote and is inspired by the works of Akira Kurosawa and the Star Wars films. The film also began development as a Star Wars film that Snyder had pitched to Lucasfilm shortly after the sale of Lucasfilm to The Walt Disney Company in 2012 and was meant to be a more mature take on the Star Wars universe. As a space opera, DC and the Snyderverse with its superheroes would really not be an apt take on the project. Its more like he's trying to make his own Star Wars film without Disney and the Star Wars intellectual property.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
I want this to succeed*, but I'm not all that hyped for it.
*In the same way I wanted Jupiter Rising, Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets, Cloud Atlas and pretty much any other unique sci-fi movie to succeed. Always good to have wild and different sci-fi from time to time.
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"Sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your opponent from winning." - The Emperor, from The Outcast Dead.
"Tell your gods we are coming for them, and that their realms will burn as ours did." -Thostos Bladestorm
Sophia Boutella hasn't had the best track record of ending up with the best roles, so if her agent has landed her the lead I do worry about the script.
This feels like the type of movie that has to start with a long-winded live action prologue or blocks of text to give everyone context, and if you're starting (as Snyder has) with talk about how he hopes this can grow into a massive sci-fi universe franchise before the first one is even out (and out on Netflix no less, a service with a track record of pretty bad original movies that have money just thrown at them), then that sends up all sorts of warning flags.
Wait a minute...., that sounds familiar. Didn't this one dude, George something-or-other kick off a franchise exactly like that back in the 70s?
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AduroT wrote: I’m guessing it’s only two parts to allow for all the slo-mo shots.
No, it's because of all the slo-mo that it's in two parts. If they just moved normally it'd only need to be 1 movie.
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Does look somewhat generic but also but very internally inconsistent science. Also we appear to have hit one of those points in history where the common media of the future has not kept up with what we can reasonably extrapolate from the present and where the consequences of tech aren't thought through.
The_Real_Chris wrote: Does look somewhat generic but also but very internally inconsistent science. Also we appear to have hit one of those points in history where the common media of the future has not kept up with what we can reasonably extrapolate from the present and where the consequences of tech aren't thought through.
This has been an issue in Scifi for a while imo, and part of the faltering of the genre combined with waning enthusiasm that technology is a solution + increasing cynicism that technology is just another problem.
A lot of, most even, scifi still plays like it was written in the 80s. Dawn of the Internet at best.
Voss wrote: Well, that certainly wears its... 50-odd influences on its skin.
I was weathering it fairly well until suddenly griffins and it went from Star Dune Robot Wars with a touch (anvil) of Gladiator to Harry Eragon. And back.
Indeed... This looks like one of those trailers where they mash together several different movies.
It's pretty, and I'll no doubt check it out because I'm always up for more sci fi... but it looks like a mess, so far.
The_Real_Chris wrote: Does look somewhat generic but also but very internally inconsistent science. Also we appear to have hit one of those points in history where the common media of the future has not kept up with what we can reasonably extrapolate from the present and where the consequences of tech aren't thought through.
This has been an issue in Scifi for a while imo, and part of the faltering of the genre combined with waning enthusiasm that technology is a solution + increasing cynicism that technology is just another problem.
A lot of, most even, scifi still plays like it was written in the 80s. Dawn of the Internet at best.
Yes its interesting seeing how writing is handling stuff as mundane as mobile phones, never mind AI assisted jobs.
Trailer for the first film, A Child of Fire, on Netflix December 22nd.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
), but this has train wreck written all over it. Like Jupiter Ascending vibes.
