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 ImAGeek wrote:
 Arachnofiend wrote:
If they're not Tomb Kings then my next guess would be "Necrons adapted for AoS". Which is an even funnier idea.


Necrons since their 5th ed update are often referred to as Tomb Kings in Space, so that’s basically the same thing.


We are going full circle again, just as with Chaos Warriors -> Space Marines -> Stormcasts

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 Gallahad wrote:

That Mortarch straight up looks like a robot who stole a helmet from the bloodwarriors' Carnival float dance crew.


Definitely looks like a Necron Pariah cosplaying as a Blood Warrior.

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 Arachnofiend wrote:
If they're not Tomb Kings then my next guess would be "Necrons adapted for AoS". Which is an even funnier idea.

I am one step ahead of you! If these are indeed an army of Morghast style guys, I was contemplating using them to convert some even more grimdark Necrons!

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Still not seeing the samurai connection but I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought these looked like Morghasts.

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 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Still not seeing the samurai connection but I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought these looked like Morghasts.

I'm guessing the 'samurai' connection is from people seeing the layered/lamellar looking armor.
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Still not seeing the samurai connection but I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought these looked like Morghasts.

I'm guessing the 'samurai' connection is from people seeing the layered/lamellar looking armor.


I know for myself it's the shape of the helmets plus the masks, reminds me of a samurai helmet with a Men-yoroi. There is clearly a mix of influences since they also got abit of a winged hussar thing going on. But the helmets+masks were the most striking to me. The back left dude being the one that cemented that idea in my head lol.
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Just a thought; could those dudes be reclaimed Stormcast Eternals?

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SamusDrake wrote:
Just a thought; could those dudes be reclaimed Stormcast Eternals?


Unlikely at this stage. Whilst we know that there are ways to stop Stormcast being saved by Sigmar at the point of death and thus it is possible to have their armour and bodies remain on the ground; its likely rare enough not to have sufficient remains to form a whole army. Then again a good few warriors do have adornments of stormcast on them (at least 1 in every 5 khinerai has stolen/found/killed for a stormcast face cover).

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Even though it would be fitting to have fallen Stormcast be heroes in this army, heralding the tithe with proof that sooner or later, Nagash always gets his due, it doesn't really mesh with the skeleton theme.

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Spoiler:
After being killed by Nighthaunt, Lord-Castellant Pharus Thaum's soul rebels against the reforging and escapes as a lightning-gheist, winding up in Shyish and becoming a servant of Nagash. However, that's his soul, and not his body, hence why it doesn't fit the bone tithe specifically
   
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Voss wrote:

They aren't really. They were the general undead units with different unit names: grave guard->tomb guard, various cav and chariot models that had been in the Undead army list since at least third edition.
They divested the Undead of mummies and stuck them here (and as far as GW of the 90s was concerned, mummies=Egypt). The Ushabti wandered specifically out of the Mummy 2, and I'm not sure how anyone would argue that the sphinxes are supposed to be anything but Egyptian.


The start was general undead. As time went on, they became more unique. No fleshy stuff (i.e. no zombies or ghouls). Carrion replaced bats. Insect swarms. Giant tomb scorpions that could burrow up from beneath the battlefield. The Ark of the Cove... I mean, Casket of Souls. The general craziness with the new models in 8th Edition. And most importantly, the magic heroes and the combat heroes were distinct from each other, and your army required both (which was the complete opposite of where Vampire Counts eventually ended up).

The art influences in the video are all over the place, with some Wacky Fantasy elements on the armor and shields, rather than anything particularly cultural (and that seems intentional to me, both for the 'IP thing', and going for a fantasy design that feels familiar, though I can't quite place it. Getting 80's vibes off it though).
The only things that really stand out are the undead mounts (one with a rhino head and the other with bird head), and the absolutely frikkin huge catapults, which aren't as big as the regiments in front, but dwarf the regiments alongside them (and are chucking energy rather than skulls)


Yeah, I don't think we can say too much about this group yet. The armor doesn't really look familiar. Bits and pieces appear to come from various locations. But those parts don't add up to a unified whole. About the only thing I can say for certain is that I'm pretty sure that the mount early in the third video is a skeletal rhino.


Except Neferata and Mannfred do recall the old world.. Arkhan however is the one that is explicitly noted to remember nothing and it confuses some that do remember the old world, and it seems to be that Arkhan had to be reconstructed somehow. Or Nagash had to do something to bring forth a copy of him, because everyone else notes how odd Arkhan's inability to recall is.


I haven't read the novels. But what I've heard third-hand is that there's reason to believe that Arkhan is pretending to be a lot less independent than he actually is. Given that, I wouldn't be surprised if he's faking his lack of memories regarding the Old World.


Also worth noting given the most recent discussions - in the first video, the narrator makes a statement that strongly seems to suggest that he used to be a Stormcast.
   
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What fluff we do have suggests that Death-claimed Stormcast end up as Nighthaunt because their bodies become incorporeal on death. Even the Death faction's deployed means of capturing them (Spirit Torment) does so after they turn to lightning. Actual Stormcast bodies, afaik, have only happened as a result of the reality-splitting axe off a Mighty Lord of Khorne, or Stormcast dying literally in the realm of chaos. But we don't know what Nagash is doing with captured SCE souls, yet.

Note that Stormcast equipment can be separated from them; it is possible for a Stormcast to die and go to be reforged but a given weapon or piece of armor to be left behind. The helmet Gordrakk has is specifically mentioned in one of the novels to be such a case.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Still not seeing the samurai connection but I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought these looked like Morghasts.

I'm guessing the 'samurai' connection is from people seeing the layered/lamellar looking armor.


It is that and also this guy who is standing just behind the main boss there has a traditional looking samurai armor/helmet.
   
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jearrington wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Still not seeing the samurai connection but I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought these looked like Morghasts.

I'm guessing the 'samurai' connection is from people seeing the layered/lamellar looking armor.


It is that and also this guy who is standing just behind the main boss there has a traditional looking samurai armor/helmet.


Yup and this as well.

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I am more on line that it is more of an eastern style army.

Samurai style undead army still sounds cool. And there will be no dishonourable retreats!

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shinros wrote:
jearrington wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Still not seeing the samurai connection but I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought these looked like Morghasts.

I'm guessing the 'samurai' connection is from people seeing the layered/lamellar looking armor.


It is that and also this guy who is standing just behind the main boss there has a traditional looking samurai armor/helmet.


Yup and this as well.

Spoiler:


Thats a pretty far stretch for samurai inspired. Seems more traditional fantasy knight (on a rhino)

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I think the reason people think "samurai" with the rhino rider is the spurs jutting out of his helmet. While that could fit with a samurai theme, I don't think that's what it is. Instead, if you look at the shoulder armor, you see the exact same spurs. And that is *not* a Japanese style. I think all that's happening is that the bone spur idea from the shoulder armor (which would be a *really* bad idea in real life) is duplicated on the helmet.

What I'm generally reminded of with much of the imagery is a very low tech fantasy. Take Conan, look at what the bad guy soldiers are wearing, and you might end up with something like this. And rhino cavalry would fit right in with that.
   
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Yep, they said the new army will be revealed in all its dark glory. Time for them to throw us some real bones here !

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 Sarouan wrote:
Yep, they said the new army will be revealed in all its dark glory. Time for them to throw us some real bones here !

and its an army of boneless flesh constructs

 
   
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This makes me think of Hordak more than anything else

I wonder why?


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AOS Conquest anyone?

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Darn it I might actually go for that!

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The new Undead/Abdead/Urghouls/Shadeshriek Constructors/whatever, they remind of of one thing the most: Privateer Press Skorne. Kinda Samurai, kinda skinny dudes in exotic/fantasy armour, evil, constructs, soul magic, RHINOS.

Lets see what the full reveal brings, but right now I'm seeing Skorne-dead.

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 Binabik15 wrote:
The new Undead/Abdead/Urghouls/Shadeshriek Constructors/whatever, they remind of of one thing the most: Privateer Press Skorne. Kinda Samurai, kinda skinny dudes in exotic/fantasy armour, evil, constructs, soul magic, RHINOS.

Lets see what the full reveal brings, but right now I'm seeing Skorne-dead.


GW stealing good ideas from PP again ;-p
   
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Well AOS borrowed heavily from the warmachine design ethos when they aborted rank and flank battle from the design, so this is not surprising.

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Sunno wrote:
 Binabik15 wrote:
The new Undead/Abdead/Urghouls/Shadeshriek Constructors/whatever, they remind of of one thing the most: Privateer Press Skorne. Kinda Samurai, kinda skinny dudes in exotic/fantasy armour, evil, constructs, soul magic, RHINOS.

Lets see what the full reveal brings, but right now I'm seeing Skorne-dead.


GW stealing good ideas from PP again ;-p


Remains to be seen, but I have to admit that I posted in part to maybe point back at if GW's "original content, do not copy, we have the lawyers" new faction is taking cues from WarmaHordes. Maybe because I'm bitter about Tomb Kings

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 Binabik15 wrote:
Sunno wrote:
 Binabik15 wrote:
The new Undead/Abdead/Urghouls/Shadeshriek Constructors/whatever, they remind of of one thing the most: Privateer Press Skorne. Kinda Samurai, kinda skinny dudes in exotic/fantasy armour, evil, constructs, soul magic, RHINOS.

Lets see what the full reveal brings, but right now I'm seeing Skorne-dead.


GW stealing good ideas from PP again ;-p


Remains to be seen, but I have to admit that I posted in part to maybe point back at if GW's "original content, do not copy, we have the lawyers" new faction is taking cues from WarmaHordes. Maybe because I'm bitter about Tomb Kings


Nonsense! GW's srtists only draw from GW material aside from which they exclusively come up with ideas in a complete vacuum.

Meh, if GW did a Tomb Kings made to order I'd drop a good amount of money on it, but realistically Age of Sigmar Tomb Kings wouldn't be the same Tomb Kings I know and love, so personally I have nothing to be bitter about.

I'm not viewing this upcoming army as a competitor or followup to Tomb Kings either. It's high time Death gets undead models specifically made for the setting. Sure, sure, we have animated sneezes, but incorporeal undead are my least favorite undead, so they do precious little for me outside one or two characterful sculpts. But just like sky dwarfs, anything specifically made for AoS will help give the setting its own identity, which can only be a good thing.

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GW clearly gets dibs on skeletons as they own the copyright on human skulls if you recall from the old Chapterhouse lawsuit.

 
   
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 auticus wrote:
Well AOS borrowed heavily from the warmachine design ethos when they aborted rank and flank battle from the design, so this is not surprising.

Truly, no other game in history of the world had squads on round bases before Warmachine. Certainly not some other GW property in which your army consists of groups of units on round bases with no flanks or ranks
   
 
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