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Commissar Molotov wrote:I think the Tea-Tards are proof that DEVO was right, and that we are indeed de-evolving...

Obvious parody and tea party CRASHER. The smirk is the betrayal of his true intent... splatter mud on honest expression of opinion.

Libs are great at holding up the First Amendment when it's them doing the expressing. If it's a dissenting voice then they pull out all the stops to squelch the noise and if that doesn't work, discredit it. This is how I know the Tea Party movement is getting to these people. They are pulling out all the stops.

Actually Git has a point:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/apr/14/crashing-the-tea-party/

Still like the hat though.

Frazzled wrote:

This is a well known shop. Of course, that doesn't change the fact that Code Pink has about as much legitimacy as certain segments of the Tea Party.

The others are real. The Si Se Puede protesters are usually pretty tame, though. Its less about socialism, and more about immigration reform. Though the socialist rhetoric doesn't do them any favors in terms of progress, it does tend to attract a lot of immigrant interest due to the political biases they carry from their countries of origin.

There wont be a civil war. Liberals dont have guns, and those without guns will always be slaves to those with them.

sebster wrote:Fortunately, when reasons are deeply felt and poorly realised they tend to burn themselves out fairly quickly. The biggest issue would be if the GOP decides to lurch further into the realm of the crazy right to pick up tea party votes, that could end up affecting policy for a while to come. But if they're left to their own devices they'll slowly wander back towards reality.

Yep. As the economy continues its recovery, some of the "angry because we're angry" people will lose interest in tea parties.

I say "some" because the black helicopter, new world order crazies will still be going strong, just like they were during the booming '90s.

Frazzled wrote: Whats interesting is that I have been to all the locations on the list except the Florida and NJ ones. Coincidence?

I don't know. You tell me, Mr. Durden. Sir.

The Green Git wrote:Obvious parody and tea party CRASHER. The smirk is the betrayal of his true intent... splatter mud on honest expression of opinion.

The crazy eyes say otherwise. He's a JARN* for sure.


*Just Another Reactionary Nutjob

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:There wont be a civil war. Liberals dont have guns, and those without guns will always be slaves to those with them.

All hail our redneck, inbred, slack-jawed, banjo-playing wingnut masters!!!

Or not.

You know I watched an interesting interview last night on Frontline. It was an interview with a TeaParty member from Tampa, Florida. He made well reasoned and articulate arguments regarding the reduction of the size of government. I was actually impressed, and this is the kind of thing I am used to, from republican/conservative thinkers. Notthing like the kind of lunacy I see from the tea partiers, where I currently live in Appallacia.



GG

generalgrog wrote:You know I watched an interesting interview last night on Frontline. It was an interview with a TeaParty member from Tampa, Florida. He made well reasoned and articulate arguments regarding the reduction of the size of government. I was actually impressed, and this is the kind of thing I am used to, from republican/conservative thinkers. Notthing like the kind of lunacy I see from the tea partiers, where I currently live in Appallacia.
GG

I live in a major Metropolitan area and tea party types here are people of all walks of life. Most in my experience are above average in intelligence and are far from radical. Most just want to get on with their lives without onerous Federal regulation.

Now the rabid "Social Justice" and Lib supporters, those are the toothless hill dwellers and inner city yoofs.


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gorgon wrote:

The Green Git wrote:Obvious parody and tea party CRASHER. The smirk is the betrayal of his true intent... splatter mud on honest expression of opinion.

The crazy eyes say otherwise. He's a JARN* for sure.

*Just Another Reactionary Nutjob

I would counter that his outfit color coordination, hint of eyeliner and snappy dress place him squarely in the metro-sexual phony tax protester camp. No self respecting tea party goer would coordinate like that.

I hate to say it but he has a point. We have had tea party protests just downstairs last year. Fashion challenged old farts was the buzzword there.

Tea Party stuff is getting pretty big on my campus. Alot of students (predominately White Males) are pretty motivated for everything they stand for. Its getting kind of weird, knowing that the last time I heard of this much civil unrest over government was the early 20th Century.

generalgrog wrote:You know I watched an interesting interview last night on Frontline. It was an interview with a TeaParty member from Tampa, Florida. He made well reasoned and articulate arguments regarding the reduction of the size of government. I was actually impressed, and this is the kind of thing I am used to, from republican/conservative thinkers. Notthing like the kind of lunacy I see from the tea partiers, where I currently live in Appallacia.



GG

He must have been a phony. We all know that the pot-smoking, liberal asshats who feel that the US would be better off being socialist with all of us holding hands and singing Kumbaya would be a better US are so "with the times" and "normal".

Not all tea-partiers are loons, just as not all liberals are asshats (only most of them).

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:Tea Party stuff is getting pretty big on my campus. Alot of students (predominately White Males) are pretty motivated for everything they stand for. Its getting kind of weird, knowing that the last time I heard of this much civil unrest over government was the early 20th Century.

See this is why the younger generations are going to .

Back in my day, our protests were full of hot blooded chickas who believed in the minimum level of clothing required by law.

The worst part is people who fantasize about a second civil war have forgotten that warfare has progressed to favor the high-tech force, in conventional operations. There wont be any Chancellorsville's if gak goes down a second time.

Frazzled wrote:
Back in my day, our protests were full of hot blooded chickas who believed in the minimum level of clothing required by law.

Didn't the Wu-Tang clan partially reconstruct a protest from your youth for the Gravel Pit video?

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:The worst part is people who fantasize about a second civil war have forgotten that warfare has progressed to favor the high-tech force, in conventional operations. There wont be any Chancellorsville's if gak goes down a second time.

If you actually think a second civil war would feature anything close to conventional operations....well, that'd be a pretty ridiculous thought. I'm not saying a second civil war is actually going to happen, but conventional operations? No way. It would be guerrilla warfare x10. The only way there would be anything close to conventional operations is if the military split or fragmented (which isn't unlikely), in which case the argument is basically moot anyway as multiple factions would then have access to high-tech equipment.

MeanGreenStompa wrote:

Frazzled wrote:
Back in my day, our protests were full of hot blooded chickas who believed in the minimum level of clothing required by law.

Didn't the Wu-Tang clan partially reconstruct a protest from your youth for the Gravel Pit video?

exactly.

MeanGreenStompa wrote:

I'd go back to the Stone Age for Raquel!

Hordini wrote:

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:The worst part is people who fantasize about a second civil war have forgotten that warfare has progressed to favor the high-tech force, in conventional operations. There wont be any Chancellorsville's if gak goes down a second time.

If you actually think a second civil war would feature anything close to conventional operations....well, that'd be a pretty ridiculous thought. I'm not saying a second civil war is actually going to happen, but conventional operations? No way. It would be guerrilla warfare x10. The only way there would be anything close to conventional operations is if the military split or fragmented (which isn't unlikely), in which case the argument is basically moot anyway as multiple factions would then have access to high-tech equipment.

I like you Hordini. You get it.

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:

Hordini wrote:

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:The worst part is people who fantasize about a second civil war have forgotten that warfare has progressed to favor the high-tech force, in conventional operations. There wont be any Chancellorsville's if gak goes down a second time.

If you actually think a second civil war would feature anything close to conventional operations....well, that'd be a pretty ridiculous thought. I'm not saying a second civil war is actually going to happen, but conventional operations? No way. It would be guerrilla warfare x10. The only way there would be anything close to conventional operations is if the military split or fragmented (which isn't unlikely), in which case the argument is basically moot anyway as multiple factions would then have access to high-tech equipment.

I like you Hordini. You get it.

Yeah, it's quite fortunate than that our military has been practicing police actions and insurgency warfare since we first invaded afghanistan! Now instead of sending in troops the reaper drone can just see your militia set up a roadside bomb before waiting for you to return to your clubhouse and shooting you with a hellfire missile.

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:

Hordini wrote:

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:The worst part is people who fantasize about a second civil war have forgotten that warfare has progressed to favor the high-tech force, in conventional operations. There wont be any Chancellorsville's if gak goes down a second time.

If you actually think a second civil war would feature anything close to conventional operations....well, that'd be a pretty ridiculous thought. I'm not saying a second civil war is actually going to happen, but conventional operations? No way. It would be guerrilla warfare x10. The only way there would be anything close to conventional operations is if the military split or fragmented (which isn't unlikely), in which case the argument is basically moot anyway as multiple factions would then have access to high-tech equipment.

I like you Hordini. You get it.

Haha, thanks. I do what I can.

ShumaGorath wrote:

Yeah, it's quite fortunate than that our military has been practicing police actions and insurgency warfare since we first invaded afghanistan! Now instead of sending in troops the reaper drone can just see your militia set up a roadside bomb before waiting for you to return to your clubhouse and shooting you with a hellfire missile.

That's true, but it gets more complicated when you have more than one militia and more than one clubhouse (see Afghanistan). And if the military fragments (as would be reasonably likely in a civil war), then all bets are off.

olympia wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:This was tried in 1861-5 with results that were not necessarily strongly in favour of the States' Rights supporters.

Ah yes, but this time the liberals in north that generate the vast majority of wealth for the country will cut the southerners loose without a fight. Biggest mistake in U.S. history was waging a war to keep rednecks part of the country.

QFT. Give them 5 years alone with a poor economy, sweet tea, fried everything, and a lot of guns....they'll be begging to come back into the Union.

The Green Git wrote:
Obvious parody and tea party CRASHER. The smirk is the betrayal of his true intent... splatter mud on honest expression of opinion.

Libs are great at holding up the First Amendment when it's them doing the expressing. If it's a dissenting voice then they pull out all the stops to squelch the noise and if that doesn't work, discredit it. This is how I know the Tea Party movement is getting to these people. They are pulling out all the stops.

Nice try, Git - but that picture was taken at a protest well before the call to "crash" Tea Party activities.

That's YOUR idiot. Own up to him.

Che-Vito wrote:

olympia wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:This was tried in 1861-5 with results that were not necessarily strongly in favour of the States' Rights supporters.

Ah yes, but this time the liberals in north that generate the vast majority of wealth for the country will cut the southerners loose without a fight. Biggest mistake in U.S. history was waging a war to keep rednecks part of the country.

QFT. Give them 5 years alone with a poor economy, sweet tea, fried everything, and a lot of guns....they'll be begging to come back into the Union.

Mmm, the Southern economy is stronger. You get to keep California and Michigan. We keep the refineries...

Frazzled wrote:

Che-Vito wrote:

olympia wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:This was tried in 1861-5 with results that were not necessarily strongly in favour of the States' Rights supporters.

Ah yes, but this time the liberals in north that generate the vast majority of wealth for the country will cut the southerners loose without a fight. Biggest mistake in U.S. history was waging a war to keep rednecks part of the country.

QFT. Give them 5 years alone with a poor economy, sweet tea, fried everything, and a lot of guns....they'll be begging to come back into the Union.

Mmm, the Southern economy is stronger. You get to keep California and Michigan. We keep the refineries...

This conversation is dumb. Everyone in it is dumb. This forum is dumb.

As an aside, isn't a lot of refining done on the east coast?

Life is dumb and the ending usually sucks ass. Whats your point?

ShumaGorath wrote:

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:

Hordini wrote:

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:The worst part is people who fantasize about a second civil war have forgotten that warfare has progressed to favor the high-tech force, in conventional operations. There wont be any Chancellorsville's if gak goes down a second time.

If you actually think a second civil war would feature anything close to conventional operations....well, that'd be a pretty ridiculous thought. I'm not saying a second civil war is actually going to happen, but conventional operations? No way. It would be guerrilla warfare x10. The only way there would be anything close to conventional operations is if the military split or fragmented (which isn't unlikely), in which case the argument is basically moot anyway as multiple factions would then have access to high-tech equipment.

I like you Hordini. You get it.

Yeah, it's quite fortunate than that our military has been practicing police actions and insurgency warfare since we first invaded afghanistan! Now instead of sending in troops the reaper drone can just see your militia set up a roadside bomb before waiting for you to return to your clubhouse and shooting you with a hellfire missile.

Shuma its cute when you talk about that. Good thing no more roadside bombs ever get planted. Must you constantly put the DICK in contradictory?

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:

Hordini wrote:

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:The worst part is people who fantasize about a second civil war have forgotten that warfare has progressed to favor the high-tech force, in conventional operations. There wont be any Chancellorsville's if gak goes down a second time.

If you actually think a second civil war would feature anything close to conventional operations....well, that'd be a pretty ridiculous thought. I'm not saying a second civil war is actually going to happen, but conventional operations? No way. It would be guerrilla warfare x10. The only way there would be anything close to conventional operations is if the military split or fragmented (which isn't unlikely), in which case the argument is basically moot anyway as multiple factions would then have access to high-tech equipment.

I like you Hordini. You get it.

Yeah, it's quite fortunate than that our military has been practicing police actions and insurgency warfare since we first invaded afghanistan! Now instead of sending in troops the reaper drone can just see your militia set up a roadside bomb before waiting for you to return to your clubhouse and shooting you with a hellfire missile.

Shuma its cute when you talk about that. Good thing no more roadside bombs ever get planted. Must you constantly put the DICK in contradictory?

As long as you put the uhh.. I dunno. Reamwo in dreamworld. You posited that a civil war wouldn't feature conventional operations and I agreed with you stating that our military had been practicing unconventional counter insurgency warfare for close to a decade. Pretending like the military institutions would somehow not decide the fate of an american civil war is paramount to hallucinogenic idiocy.

Frazzled wrote:

Che-Vito wrote:

olympia wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:This was tried in 1861-5 with results that were not necessarily strongly in favour of the States' Rights supporters.

Ah yes, but this time the liberals in north that generate the vast majority of wealth for the country will cut the southerners loose without a fight. Biggest mistake in U.S. history was waging a war to keep rednecks part of the country.

QFT. Give them 5 years alone with a poor economy, sweet tea, fried everything, and a lot of guns....they'll be begging to come back into the Union.

Mmm, the Southern economy is stronger. You get to keep California and Michigan. We keep the refineries...

Texas, yes. The deep south? No.
I lived in Charleston, SC from when the economy first tanked, until recently. Between the massive unemployment there...and the social backwardness...zero fun.

As an addendum: the federal government gives a LOT of money to projects/bases in the South. Military, and not...without those, the situation below the Mason-Dixon would be far worse.

Smart people join the tea party because it's easy to blame the Government and not our selves. We all f'd up alittle.

Commissar Molotov wrote:Nice try, Git - but that picture was taken at a protest well before the call to "crash" Tea Party activities.

And you know this how, exactly?

The Green Git wrote:

Commissar Molotov wrote:Nice try, Git - but that picture was taken at a protest well before the call to "crash" Tea Party activities.

And you know this how, exactly?

Look at the link where the picture comes from. http://extremethinkover.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/descent-tea-bagger-imageshack.jpg

It was posted in December of 2009, might not know when the picture was taken but it had to have been taken sometime before that.

Every side has their crazies, like it or not.