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Frazzled wrote:

A former British comrade told a tell of a game between the Uk and Germany. The crowd chant was "those who won the war Stand UP!" (they would all of course stand up). Excellent.

The main chant for playing Germans is: 'two World Wars and one World Cup'.

England should, going by the players they have, walk it.

And I really can't see any grudge match quality in an england vs usa football game. At least not in these sense that Germany, Argentina and Scotland are.

Frazzled wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:Yes, it is interesting to contemplate how Americans, who are normally so individualistic, can dedicate themselves to the collective in team based sports.

For the Greater Good!

You miss the point Frazzie. He means commies are taking over, via sport, and you ain't thunk it yet.

FOR THE GREATER PUD!

Kilkrazy wrote:Yes, it is interesting to contemplate how Americans, who are normally so individualistic, can dedicate themselves to the collective in team based sports.

Personally I don't think we do the team thing that well. We tolerate it. Our national pastime (baseball) is pretty individualistic when you get right down to it. Our failures in international basketball to countries playing better "team" ball are well-documented. Football's our most "team" sport, but look at all the prima donnas there, especially at receiver. Hockey is actually the most "team" sport of the four majors here, but that sport truly belongs to the Canadians and not us.

The one that always gets me is our tendency to drop batons, make lane violations, etc. in international track relay events. Baton handoffs are NOT hard. High school athletes can do them routinely. But our guys are usually focused on their individual events and don't put in enough practice time. So it's a comedy of errors despite having the overall best talent out there. Track's not a big deal here, but I think the phenomenon is very telling.

Case in point -- Beijing 2008.

http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/summer08/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=3546603

Kilkrazy wrote:




FOR THE GREATER PUD!

Ladies only tolerate a winner. For the Greater Good! One Team One Goal!

Frazzled wrote:One Team One Goal!

A fantastic rallying cry for the US football team.

With any luck, Team USA will follow Colbert's strategy for Saturday.

Orlanth wrote:

Frazzled wrote:One Team One Goal!

A fantastic rallying cry for the US football team.

You mean SOCCER team. We don't play football internationally.

generalgrog wrote:The thing that I think is kind of lost here with all the comparison between Englands talent v USA talent is the importance of this game to each team. Sure England has better players, but if England beats the USA it's really not that big of deal to the English becuase they are supposed to beat them, and they look down on US soccer as inferior (and rightfully so, for the moment). However if the USA beats England it would be almost.... if not as special as beating a team like Brazil would be.

A win means more to the US, than to the English, and that could be just enough edge to get the win. Look at what South Africa did vs Mexico....no one thinks South Africa has any chance of getting out of their group, and they almost beat Mexico, who are a decent team.

GG

I agree with you here - this is the set of circumstances under which America could win the match: if England they're going to walk it and get too complacent, and USA have the greater motivation. The Team USA players and coaching staff should have been talking down their chances in the media, really going to town, saying stuff like 'we expect that we will struggle - we're hoping for a draw'. That's just basic mind-gaming. That type of strategy doesn't strike me as a particularly 'American' thing to do, though.

You chaps aren't excactly known for your modesty!

A draw would be okay for the USA wouldn't it?
Given the other teams in the group there would be a chance of getting through to the next round.

Please no more "Team" USA
It is USA plain and simple
(I blame you guys for the appellation "Team GB" for the Olympics :puke: )

on a broader cultural note, don't mind Appellation Springs. Oh for the gift to be simple...

halonachos wrote:You mean SOCCER team. We don't play football internationally.

That's because everyone else plays...

HANDEGG!

rofl. muppets.

LOL!!!

It took me a second to realise what I was looking at there!

Team America strikes again!

Feth Yeah!!

YES!!! No Geography classes.

i think USA can pull it off

Gwar! wrote:

halonachos wrote:You mean SOCCER team. We don't play football internationally.

That's because everyone else plays...

HANDEGG!

Gwar
The arrow is pointing at Beckham's ankle.
What you have there is ankleball

What sort of eggs are that shape? Its a melon
Robocop is playing elbowmelon

England 3 - US 0

Thank goodness it'll only be a soccer loss, rather than something exciting like hockey or basketball...

JohnHwangDD wrote:England 3 - US 0

Thank goodness it'll only be a soccer loss, rather than something exciting like hockey or basketball...

Haha! Two girls games?

More sarcasm! You guys crack me up!

JohnHwangDD wrote:

Thank goodness it'll only be a soccer loss, rather than something exciting like hockey or basketball...

Yeah, women's sports are never as important.

JohnHwangDD wrote:Thank goodness it'll only be a soccer loss, rather than something exciting like hockey or basketball...

What about when you lose to us at rowing?

Girls play basketball when they've realised their legs can move in netball.

sA

The implication that hockey is soft is deluded.
Have you chaps ever played hockey? It's a game for psychopaths!

Not talking about that even more demented form of hockey that is played on ice. More padding

The only protection proper hockey players have are shin pads and a box.

whatwhat wrote:

rofl. muppets.

Instant classic.


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mattyrm wrote:

JohnHwangDD wrote:England 3 - US 0

Thank goodness it'll only be a soccer loss, rather than something exciting like hockey or basketball...

Haha! Two girls games?

More sarcasm! You guys crack me up!

Oddly enough the US womens football team is amongst the best in the world.

JohnHwangDD wrote:Thank goodness it'll only be a soccer loss, rather than something exciting like hockey or basketball...

mattyrm wrote:Haha! Two girls games?

reds8n wrote:Yeah, women's sports are never as important.

Huh? I can understand you poms not knowing about American basketball, but are there no Canadians on the board to educate you limeys about ice hockey?

*sigh*

Clue time: soccer is a little kids game. Nobody cares.

You come back when you lot are going to start playing grownup mens games like real football, basketball, or hockey - games that require a full-grown man just to take a hit from another man.

____

smiling Assassin wrote:What about when you lose to us at rowing?

Like soccer, one wonders whether any Americans even care. It's like we lost a darts or pool. Nobody cares.
____

Orlanth wrote:

mattyrm wrote:

JohnHwangDD wrote:England 3 - US 0

Thank goodness it'll only be a soccer loss, rather than something exciting like hockey or basketball...

Haha! Two girls games?

More sarcasm! You guys crack me up!

Oddly enough the US womens football team is amongst the best in the world.

Eh. The US girls soccer team is nothing but a bunch of cheaters.

Normally I'd say: "The World Cup, you say? Why, 'tis the sport of the Neanderthal!" Buuut since it's England vs USA.... oooh a bit of my national pride has been briefly kindled..

C'MON ENGERLAND!

*paints face like a barbarian and runs nude down the street waving about a St. Georges flag*

JohnHwangDD wrote:You come back when you lot are going to start playing grownup mens games like real football, basketball, or hockey - games that require a full-grown man just to take a hit from another man.

Not a grownup mens' sport?

Oh and...



?

600% tougher but actually safer than American Football.

[Don't worry chaps, I got the picture from the Telegraph website.]

sA

@JohnHwangDD-Clue time: soccer is a little kids game. Nobody cares.
You can't say that!
FOOTBALL WHICH YOU CALL SOCCER IS THE "WORLD GAME"
Don't you find all Americans (most of them)Patriotic?
No I can't Say that they will call in an airstrike on my location.
Well I have no need to be patriotic because I am South African.
1-1 Against Mexico YAY! I was expecting a 2-0 loss.
Well as for my prediction. I think England will win slightly but anything could happen.

smiling Assassin wrote:

JohnHwangDD wrote:You come back when you lot are going to start playing grownup mens games like real football, basketball, or hockey - games that require a full-grown man just to take a hit from another man.

Not a grownup mens' sport?

Oh and...



?

600% tougher but actually safer than American Football.

sA

Your average Football Defensive lineman would toss a rugby player around like he was a little child. American footballers wear padding and neck braces and helmets due to the severity of hits. A rugby player getting hit by someone like Pat Williams from the Mn Vikings would curl up and cry like a girly man.

So Jonn is right. Rugby is not even close to real football, ie American football. It's also not as glamorous. We have much cooler looking uniforms. Purple and gold baby. Yeah!!!

Watching South Korea and Greece right now and I'm going to take a peak at the US v. England later today too. I have no idea who'll win because I don't know enough about the sport. I do think it's much more interesting and exciting than some of the nay-sayers give it credit for.

That said, go US!