U.S.A. vs England-----World Cup

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**Quintinus**

Albatross wrote:Right.

Let's be real here for a second. Team USA aren't terrible. But they aren't in the same league as England. They're not even in the same SPORT.

Of course, in the modern game the gulf in class between any given international team isn't as big as it used to be in years gone by - all countries who succesfully qualify for the World Cup are of a pretty high standard and can beat any other team on their day, depending on various factors. Form going into the competition plays a big part, as does team morale/confidence, sheer skill/athleticism, not to mention a healthy dose of luck. Team USA could get lucky and conceivably sneak a draw or a very narrow win. That's not in doubt.

However, England are in good goalscoring form, are confident, have a better manager, better coaches and vastly superior players to the USA team. Although we like to downplay our chances, England are one of the top teams in the world - every match they play is like a cup-final for the other team, because beating England is a pretty big feather in the cap. We've also had the luck recently, and the team have shown that they can grind out results even when we aren't playing well. Look at the Mexico game: England beat them 3-1 without really even trying.

This isn't 'trash-talking' on my part, as I don't really believe in that. It's tacky. That said, England are by far the superior football team - it's just a fact. The USA's best players play for mediocre English Premier League clubs - England's players play for some of the best clubs in the world and we have a world-class manager.

Come on, what would the yanks be saying if it was USA vs. England in Basketball? They'd be talking about how much they're gonna kick our limey arses, and with good reason.

I think Team USA will be lucky to keep the score down to a 2-0 victory to England. Look at Rooney's eyes - he's not messing around this time. That said, I want to see Team USA do well in the competition and I wouldn't begrudge them a win against us - it would be a big achievement for them, so there would be no sour grapes from me.

Good luck to our cousins across the pond!

Our soccer team is going to own you guys. Football is a manly sport with men in pads and helmets. Don't know where you guys mixed that one up. Then again you guys drive on the wrong side of the road AND you continually fail to correctly spell simple words like color and flavor.

**WarOne**

The 3 keys to the game IMO:

1. Celtics defense- they must limit Kobe Bryant and Paul Gasol to lower than 40% shooting if they have a shot at winning.

2. Rebounds- the Celtics must outrebound the Lakers. All games in the Finals have so far been decided by who out rebounded the others.

3. Bench- whoever gets the most points off the bench should be the team with the greater advantage, especially since both line ups that start are star studded.

**Chibi Bodge-Battle**

men in pads and helmets.

Ah yes, Criket lovely cricket

But what's with the owning of people.

I thought slavery had been abolished

**halonachos**

Vladsimpaler, I already discussed the reasons for the differences between america, europe, and foreign european colonies.

Although I always forget that america has a soccer team before the world series and the olympics, I think america is the best and isn't afraid of anything.

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Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:
men in pads and helmets.

Ah yes, Criket lovely cricket

But what's with the owning of people.
I thought slavery had been abolished

I was watching the IPL with an indian friend and a pakistani friend of mine. Kept thinking WTF the entire time. That's why I like american football, its direct and to the point.

**Waaagh_Gonads**

Nil all.

Fleet street press go bananas.
USA doesn't care.

**Chibi Bodge-Battle**

I was watching the IPL with an indian friend and a pakistani friend of mine. Kept thinking WTF the entire time.

That would be ex-friends then

**Flashman**

Vladsimpaler wrote:AND you continually fail to correctly spell simple words like color and flavor.

"Don't lecture me about honour! You can't even spell it!" A classic Flashman retort as he is once again press ganged into a dangerous assignment. On this occassion, it is an American appealing (rather naively) to his sense of duty.

**dogma**

halonachos wrote:...I think america is the best and isn't afraid of anything.

Except playing contacts sports without pads, or so it seems.

**Fifty**

Flashman wrote:@ mattyrm - thank you for those kind words of support, now I hope England lose 6-0 (seriously, enjoy the game mate)

@ general grog - Landon could work, but it's a little too close to Lando for my liking.

Why on Earth wouldn't you want to name your son after Lando?!?!

As for the game, England clearly have the better players and coach, but with it being the first game of the World Cup, etc etc, I would say they are only slight favourites.

I'll be watching the game at a World Cup Fancy Dress BBQ. have to decide whether to go as Japan and wear my Kyudo gear (long robes, basically) or in my American Football gear (I play for a British Senior League team - the Kent Exiles.

**hcordes**

so im just gonna go for a 0-0 tie.

**mattyrm**

Vladsimpaler wrote: Our soccer team is going to own you guys. Football is a manly sport with men in pads and helmets. Don't know where you guys mixed that one up. Then again you guys drive on the wrong side of the road AND you continually fail to correctly spell simple words like color and flavor.

Wow! Our American cousins DO understand sarcasm after all eh?

**reds8n**

generalgrog wrote:

p.s. I'm a Man-U fan so I know what Rooney can do, if he keeps his head on.

Well you don't live in Manchester and don't know much about football so you fit the stereotype...

**Albatross**

generalgrog wrote: I'm a Man-U fan so I know what Rooney can do, if he keeps his head on.

Hey, if your ever in town, give us a shout - I'll show you the.... 'sights'.

**Hans_posthumus**

3-0 for England. Period

**Frazzled**

Hans_posthumus wrote:3-0 for England. Period

It depends.
Bunch of guys named Trevor and Hunter and Graham - yea its going to be bad.

However if half the team is named Jesus like the teams that are playing at the local park you Brits are going to be pwoned. If we don't win we'll just shoot the place up as a lesson for next year. Our immigrants kick your immigrants' asses! USA! USA! USA!

Amurica! Our Heinz 57 mutts kicking pureblood butt since 1775

**Chibi Bodge-Battle**

Amurica! Our Heinz 57 mutts kicking pureblood butt since 1775

My dear old thing!
My own lineage is not going to be untypical. With Celtic, Saxon possibly Norse and even a little dash of Indian thrown into the pot, hardly makes us purebred.

all the best from Bertie Basset

**reds8n**

England v USA - Kick off 19:30.

USA will turn up at 19:41 and then claim victory

**generalgrog**

reds8n wrote:
generalgrog wrote:

p.s. I'm a Man-U fan so I know what Rooney can do, if he keeps his head on.

Well you don't live in Manchester and don't know much about football so you fit the stereotype...

HAHA!!

Well beinag as I'm deprived of decent soccer here in America, the only good soccer I get to watch is coming out of Europe so naturally I'm going to gravitate to the better teams. I like Valencia too from La Liga.

I mean I haven't purchased any Man-U gear or anything,(and don't think I would)

GG

**reds8n**

That's fair enough, they do play some good football...more so than my beloved Liverpool this season..alas..

**Chibi Bodge-Battle**

Rubs eyes and does a double take!
a compliment from a Liverpool fan about Manu?!

The natural order of things has collapsed
the world is about to end!

**reds8n**

It's a thin line between footballing success and failure.

In the UK we call it Hadrian's wall.

**gorgon**

Bill Cowher, the former coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers, used to say something similar about 748 times a season.

Good to see sports cliches travel across sports and ponds.

**Chibi Bodge-Battle**

Yeah but I bet he never had such a funny punch line!

**reds8n**

gorgon wrote:Bill Cowher, the former coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers, used to say something similar about 748 times a season.

Good to see sports cliches travel across sports and ponds.

Do you guys get "sick as a parrot" as well then ?

http://languagecaster.com/football-language-resources/football-cliches/

**gorgon**

Hmm...not really. That's certainly an odd one.

In hockey there used to be a saying about a tie being like "kissing your sister." They have shootouts now in hockey to break ties, so that one's gone extinct.

Of the cliches on that site, these have fairly close American equivalents:

"You can’t win the title in August but you can certainly lose it"

"A game of two halves"

"To be strong on paper"

As the site points out ,"football is a funny old game" has its American equivalent in "that’s why they play the game." An American football-specific version is "any given Sunday in the National Football League," meaning even a bad NFL team has a reasonable chance of upsetting a good team in a particular game.

Edit: So when one of your football goaltenders is having a great game, do they say he's "standing on his head"? That's what they say in hockey.

Or do they say he's "in form"? Can goalies be "in form"? I read a whole article about what it means to be in form, but I wasn't clear if it applied to goaltenders.

**Gorechild**

Vladsimpaler wrote:
Our soccer team is going to own you guys. Football is a manly sport with men in pads and helmets. Don't know where you guys mixed that one up. Then again you guys drive on the wrong side of the road AND you continually fail to correctly spell simple words like color and flavor.

No, rugby is a manly sport where nobody needs to be wrapped up in padding. It's our language, we know how to spell thanks. And I'm pretty pretty sure we'll win tomorow. Hope that clears things up, you seem a little confused

**reds8n**

In form applies to pretty much any player.

Goal keeper, not tender too.

Oh..

http://www.footballsite.co.uk/Statistics/Articles/Colemanballs01.htm

**Orlanth**

The trouble with the US lineup is that they are fielding plenty of people who are signed up profesionally with B rate teams.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_men's_national_soccer_team

Uk players play for Man United, Chelsea or Arsenal, US national team players play for .... Watford. Ok some do play for Premiership sides and A rated European teams like Milan and Rangers, but its only some. A national team that cannot fill a lineup with players currently in the top division of the national leagues they play for is in for trouble.

**hcordes**

US has a decent defense and an excellent goal keeper. I think if they can stick to a solid defensive plan and not get to risky on offense they can come away with a draw.

**Soladrin**

This world cup will suck, Zidane's not playing :(