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coolyo294 wrote:Buy it, cost be damned. You can never have enough guns.

Nuff said.

It's kinda sad, the semi-autos I like are relatively cheap, while the revolvers I like are expensive, despite the fact that the revolvers are simpler and cheaper to make...

Honestly, when it comes to home defense I'll opt for the 12 Gauge every time.

I believe my father has one under the counter at his shop, too.

Anyone ever shoot anything in .50 caliber? My uncle brought one of his friends to the range with us one time and he brought two pistols; A Desert Eagle and an S&W Model 500...

Originally I wanted to fire both of them but they insisted they do it first....afterwards I really didn't want to, my uncle wasn't ready for the recoil completely and the gun clocked him in the nose slightly...

FITZZ wrote: Honestly, when it comes to home defense I'll opt for the 12 Gauge every time.

Exactly, was using my AR for a while, then realized that was a horrible, horrible idea, especially since I had steel core ammo guns to damn complex for my wife to work reliably so I just stick the 12G there, that and shes stupid good with it.

Sckitzo wrote:I love mine, and I love my K98K, so much history behind both of em, I just wish the K98 had matching serial numbers.

Good luck finding that.


To Melissa, I would highly recommend a sub frame, DA 1911 variant for a carry gun. 1911's for all of their grandeur have three things going against them:

1: Single Action only, they must be carried cocked and with the safety on. Not a huge deal, but most of the guru's on CC don't like Single Action Only guns. I would contend that SAO automatics are a bit to "fumbly" for a quick situation like that.

2. Bulky, That's a full framed pistol there. About 2 and half pounds unloaded. Not ideal for a carry weapon at all. Okay for open carry, but Texas doesn't have that. Tucking into a waistband is not only uncomfortable but extremely hard to conceal without wearing really bulky clothes to go with it.

3. Don't feed hollow points worth a damn. Which is something EVERY CC guru recommends you have in a carry weapon. Not only are the stopping power levels greater but it greatly reduces the occurrence of "through & through's", which account for more accidental deaths by police officers than any other situation. The vast majority of police departments in the US (save for the ones cowed by idiotic District Attorneys and do gooders who think hollow points are inhumane or dangerous) use hollow points. Ask a local police officer what type of ammo they carry and do the same, so if you are ever in an incident and you need to defend yourself in court, you can say that you use the same type of bullets as the local police.


1911 Variants are are great guns, but not great carry guns however. I have 3 M1911A1's from the WWII era (A Colt, Remington-Rand and Itahca), they still work fine, but none of them saw hard use in the war. My Itahca and Remington-Rand are 98% original finish guns. The Colt was a Lend Lease over to Britain and has British proofs on the bolt and frame. Too bad those proofs knock off about 20% of the value.

Sckitzo wrote:

FITZZ wrote: Honestly, when it comes to home defense I'll opt for the 12 Gauge every time.

Exactly, was using my AR for a while, then realized that was a horrible, horrible idea, especially since I had steel core ammo guns to damn complex for my wife to work reliably so I just stick the 12G there, that and shes stupid good with it.

Ophff, AR for home defense.. ...( I know you know that already )...yeah, just way to much risk of over penatration ...

coolyo294 wrote:Buy it, cost be damned. You can never have enough guns.

Sure, if you live on the "Magical Money Tree Farm"

Stormrider wrote:

coolyo294 wrote:Buy it, cost be damned. You can never have enough guns.

Sure, if you live on the "Magical Money Tree Farm"

You don't?

coolyo294 wrote:

Stormrider wrote:

coolyo294 wrote:Buy it, cost be damned. You can never have enough guns.

Sure, if you live on the "Magical Money Tree Farm"

You don't?

If I did, I would take up personal residence at the Rock Island Auction company and buy up every WWII era and earlier item to walk in.

What's your opinion on the SIG Sauer 250? The price on that is within my range, and I know SIG Sauer is a great name.

I reccomend this...



...and this...



...both have served me well.

That knife would be illegal to carry around here. Too long.

Really? Its legal in Ill.

dogma wrote:Really? Its legal in Ill.

This is Texas. Our firearms and knife laws are stupid.

Stormrider wrote:

Sckitzo wrote:I love mine, and I love my K98K, so much history behind both of em, I just wish the K98 had matching serial numbers.

Good luck finding that.


To Melissa, I would highly recommend a sub frame, DA 1911 variant for a carry gun. 1911's for all of their grandeur have three things going against them:

1: Single Action only, they must be carried cocked and with the safety on. Not a huge deal, but most of the guru's on CC don't like Single Action Only guns. I would contend that SAO automatics are a bit to "fumbly" for a quick situation like that.

2. Bulky, That's a full framed pistol there. About 2 and half pounds unloaded. Not ideal for a carry weapon at all. Okay for open carry, but Texas doesn't have that. Tucking into a waistband is not only uncomfortable but extremely hard to conceal without wearing really bulky clothes to go with it.

3. Don't feed hollow points worth a damn. Which is something EVERY CC guru recommends you have in a carry weapon. Not only are the stopping power levels greater but it greatly reduces the occurrence of "through & through's", which account for more accidental deaths by police officers than any other situation. The vast majority of police departments in the US (save for the ones cowed by idiotic District Attorneys and do gooders who think hollow points are inhumane or dangerous) use hollow points. Ask a local police officer what type of ammo they carry and do the same, so if you are ever in an incident and you need to defend yourself in court, you can say that you use the same type of bullets as the local police.


1911 Variants are are great guns, but not great carry guns however. I have 3 M1911A1's from the WWII era (A Colt, Remington-Rand and Itahca), they still work fine, but none of them saw hard use in the war. My Itahca and Remington-Rand are 98% original finish guns. The Colt was a Lend Lease over to Britain and has British proofs on the bolt and frame. Too bad those proofs knock off about 20% of the value.

Correct me if I'm wrong (I've never owned a 1911) but I thought polishing the feed ramp usually solved that HP feeding issue?

And that SIG Sauer 250 looks like the compact version my buddy carries.

Well, yeah, its just weird that super-Dem Illinois would allow what super-GOP Texas wouldn't.

Melissia wrote:What's your opinion on the SIG Sauer 250? The price on that is within my range, and I know SIG Sauer is a great name.

Do you have strong hands? SIG's are notoriously over-sprung in the slides and need some breaking in. Other than that, good choice.


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Sckitzo wrote:

Stormrider wrote:

Sckitzo wrote:I love mine, and I love my K98K, so much history behind both of em, I just wish the K98 had matching serial numbers.

Good luck finding that.


To Melissa, I would highly recommend a sub frame, DA 1911 variant for a carry gun. 1911's for all of their grandeur have three things going against them:

1: Single Action only, they must be carried cocked and with the safety on. Not a huge deal, but most of the guru's on CC don't like Single Action Only guns. I would contend that SAO automatics are a bit to "fumbly" for a quick situation like that.

2. Bulky, That's a full framed pistol there. About 2 and half pounds unloaded. Not ideal for a carry weapon at all. Okay for open carry, but Texas doesn't have that. Tucking into a waistband is not only uncomfortable but extremely hard to conceal without wearing really bulky clothes to go with it.

3. Don't feed hollow points worth a damn. Which is something EVERY CC guru recommends you have in a carry weapon. Not only are the stopping power levels greater but it greatly reduces the occurrence of "through & through's", which account for more accidental deaths by police officers than any other situation. The vast majority of police departments in the US (save for the ones cowed by idiotic District Attorneys and do gooders who think hollow points are inhumane or dangerous) use hollow points. Ask a local police officer what type of ammo they carry and do the same, so if you are ever in an incident and you need to defend yourself in court, you can say that you use the same type of bullets as the local police.


1911 Variants are are great guns, but not great carry guns however. I have 3 M1911A1's from the WWII era (A Colt, Remington-Rand and Itahca), they still work fine, but none of them saw hard use in the war. My Itahca and Remington-Rand are 98% original finish guns. The Colt was a Lend Lease over to Britain and has British proofs on the bolt and frame. Too bad those proofs knock off about 20% of the value.

Correct me if I'm wrong (I've never owned a 1911) but I thought polishing the feed ramp usually solved that HP feeding issue?

And that SIG Sauer 250 looks like the compact version my buddy carries.

Funny you mention that, I originally had that in my post. It requires more than polishing on some variants though. Some of the ramps need material removed and then they should be polished with sand paper.

I am stronger than most women at least, in that I actually exercise frequently, and do more than merely jog

Unlike some of my friends, who are worried that if they lift a 5 pound dumbell they'll start bulking up...

dogma wrote:Really? Its legal in Ill.

You sure on that? Maybe it's to make up for the fact you have to sell your soul to get a CCP in Chicago...

dogma wrote:I reccomend this...



...and this...



...both have served me well.

How along is the knife? 4"-5" ?

Looks about six inches to me based on the size of the handle compared to the rest of the knife.

In TX, the size limit is 5 1/2" and it can't be designed as a throwing knife, or as a dirk, dagger, etc. It's quite vague in what exactly these are.

Sckitzo wrote:

dogma wrote:Really? Its legal in Ill.

You sure on that? Maybe it's to make up for the fact you have to sell your soul to get a CCP in Chicago...

Seems to be....

http://www.knife-expert.com/sta-law.htm

Sckitzo wrote:

halonachos wrote:I look at price too though, I could get more than 10 nagants for the price of one 1903.

But once you have one Nagant... might as well buy a few more

I still want a 1903, but when I buy WW2 MilSurp, I only buy war issue... which makes buying the American guns a PITA as ever since Saving Private Ryan came out the prices on them have gone through the roof.

For those that don't know
http://www.odcmp.com/Sales/rifles.htm

Looks like CMP is sold out though.

AIM surplus has some weapons, the 1903's they have were unissued I think though.

@ Melissia, it does look dorky but in a quote they said that if something wrong with the 19895 it can most likely be fixed with a hammer.

Melissia wrote:Looks about six inches to me based on the size of the handle compared to the rest of the knife.

In TX, the size limit is 5 1/2" and it can't be designed as a throwing knife, or as a dirk, dagger, etc. It's quite vague in what exactly these are.

Now is that blade length or overall length? I carry a flip open SOG Trident Tanto and the blade is 3.25" but overall it's about 7" when opened.

Blade length.

In legalese:

(6) "Illegal knife" means a: (A) knife with a blade over five and one-half inches; (B) hand instrument designed to cut or stab another by being thrown; (C) dagger, including but not limited to a dirk, stiletto, and poniard; (D) sword; or (E) spear.

That's right, in Texas, a spear is a knife.

Its normally by blade, and around where I live its legal to carry anything as long as your palm is wide or smaller. Of course switchblades are illegal to carry but assisted blades are okay to have.

halonachos wrote:

Sckitzo wrote:

halonachos wrote:I look at price too though, I could get more than 10 nagants for the price of one 1903.

But once you have one Nagant... might as well buy a few more

I still want a 1903, but when I buy WW2 MilSurp, I only buy war issue... which makes buying the American guns a PITA as ever since Saving Private Ryan came out the prices on them have gone through the roof.

For those that don't know
http://www.odcmp.com/Sales/rifles.htm

Looks like CMP is sold out though.

AIM surplus has some weapons, the 1903's they have were unissued I think though.

@ Melissia, it does look dorky but in a quote they said that if something wrong with the 19895 it can most likely be fixed with a hammer.

Your a bad man, if I buy that gun your answering to the old lady on why she isn't eating this week.

Also true on the feed ramp thing, my buddy did mention he had to grind his down a bit on his 10mm.

Sure, if you live on the "Magical Money Tree Farm"

You're on a TT gaming/WH40K board. You live on that farm.

Honestly, If you have never fired a 1911 before...Go rent one. Rent one with the style of hammer and grip safety you are after, before plunking your hard earned money, for you may just be one of those people that gets bit by the Olde Style of hammer and safety. I am, and it leaves me cold on the 1911 without a generous beavertail safety, and this goes double if you opt for a high tang grip with your handguns.

Though I find Glocks grotesque to look at, I highly recommend them. I have several handguns that I find much more appealing to look at...my 92F, my Buckmark, even the Ruger KP95 I used to have looked more appealing than my glocks....but if I am carrying the thing, it is not to look at. It is to put holes in bad people until they decide to find something better to do with their time than hurt me, and they perform the function at least as good as any other.

I would also recommend the S&W 625 or 627, revolvers fed by moon clips not being more popular has always been something that has mystified me, they make reloading -almost- as efficient and fast as a magazine, and you don't ever have to worry about the slide being pushed out of battery if you must make a contact shot, you don't ever have to worry about a failure to extract, eject, or feed, and you don't have to worry about a dud primer either. Lot to be said for the modern revolver as a fighting platform. 6 shots of .45 ACP or 8 shots of .357 magnum, take your pick.