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I see. I appologize for perpetuating this misinterpretation.

Kendo wrote:The remark by Ghost21 is currious in referral to Demigurge as 'bizzarre', which makes me wonder if they will resemble a short, stocky, beared humanoid.

The "bizarre" refers to the other race, not Demiurg.

Pacific wrote:Do I get any apology from all the people who told me to "f*** off" when I said that Mantic making Forgefathers is a sure sign GW have got Demiurg on the way?

Aw, f*** off
Actually, the Demiurg rumour is older than Mantic's decision to add a gun sprue to their Fantasy dwarfs

Kroothawk wrote:Actually, the Demiurg rumour is older than Mantic's decision to add a gun sprue to their Fantasy dwarfs

Just give me Knarloc Cav and a Greater Knarloc, GW, and my wallet will open.

Has Ghost21 been right about anything so far? His Necron rumors were a far cry from reality.

Keep in mind everyone that the concept art shown so far pre-dates even the last Tau Codex.

Ghost21's rumor have been more or less corroborated by Harry, who's word is prett reliable, at least in regards to the degree of completion, as evidenced by the summary posted by Kroothawk I believe.

Am I the only Tau player actually hoping this rumour is false, so we won't get a codex three months before a new edition, again? And this time, we will (probably) be the last to have an "old style" soft cover, non colour codex instead of a shiny new codex...

Wasn't there a rumour around the Dreadfleet Games Day that Tau wasn't even started? And was it backed by more credible people than Ghost?

Cheers

Gorlack

I wouldn't worry too much - my army is about to get its first update since 3rd ed, and I can see the touches of 6ed already.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if 6ed is done and dusted, they are just doing the army books up for the forces they are going to put in the boxed edition.

Hell how funny would it be if it was necron v tau

Well, Tau will likely have one of the last softcovers if the rumors of 40K moving to hardcover codexs is true. I get the feeling though that the nex codexs are being designed more with 6th edition in mind than fifth. I've read in various places that 6th is 'in the can' as it were, and that the recent codexs are forward compatable. I would not be suprised if some units that kind of feel hard to use may shine, and their lackluster performance in 5th will be reversed by the FAQ that is rumored to be included in the next edition. I'm sure Tau will be fine despite their 5th edition release.

Perfect example of 6ed quirkiness is necron destroyers having preferred enemy.

6ed apparently makes it effect shooting as well, 5th is only hand to hand, so a necron shooty unit having it atm is a bit wtf.

If tau get done the same way, expect the same sort of quirkiness.

MasterSlowPoke wrote:Has Ghost21 been right about anything so far? His Necron rumors were a far cry from reality.

He has been right on Dreadfleet (being the first), but he has been wrong on several things as well (e.g. "I will run naked through Nottingham if Sororitas don't get a full codex this year"). So always good to have other sources as well.

MasterSlowPoke wrote:Has Ghost21 been right about anything so far? His Necron rumors were a far cry from reality.

Off the top of my head, he correctly predicted that the fall special release would be Warhammer Fantasy on the High Seas (ie Dread Fleet)...errr, what Kroot said .

He agreed with Stickmonkey that Necrons would be getting a big walker/Dreadknight-esque model prior to Yakfaces original leak many months ago.

Edit: Stick Monkey was the first to talk about the Necron walker

Alot of his rumors tend to center around models and design rather than rules

Kroothawk wrote:
The "bizarre" refers to the other race, not Demiurg.

Pacific wrote:Do I get any apology from all the people who told me to "f*** off" when I said that Mantic making Forgefathers is a sure sign GW have got Demiurg on the way?

Aw, f*** off
Actually, the Demiurg rumour is older than Mantic's decision to add a gun sprue to their Fantasy dwarfs

Haha ! (cry )

I meant that the Forgefather release news was evidence that GW had something similar up their sleeves for the Demiurg, seeing as everything that Mantic has done in its KoW range has got an equivalent force in WFB.

I'm more inclined to believe that Mantic's decision is more a poke to GW's eye about retconning squats and all the nerd rage that old decision garnered.

agnosto wrote:I'm more inclined to believe that Mantic's decision is more a poke to GW's eye about retconning squats and all the nerd rage that old decision garnered.

Actually, Mantic has many fans of 2nd edition times, including Alessio. Therefore the rules, the squats, the Gorkamorka Ork cars.

Yeah, dont' forget that the oldest 4th edition books carried over pretty well into 5th, or at least weren't made too much worse by the transition.

DA were bad then, and are still bad.

Orks were amazing, and are still very good.

Chaos was more or less mono-build, and is currently... pretty much the same.

Daemons were a fiddly army, but clearly were built with 5th edition in mind (assault/defensive grenades).

Those books were hurt more by later codices than the switch to 5th edition. Now, early 4th edition books like Tau and Eldar... well, they didn't do as well.

I would say the tau along with BT need the update (preferably before 6th ed so they come out sooner)
or am i being greedy

I think BT just need some pricing and equipment updates and could benefit from the WD treatment since they were always designed to be a CC assault focused army. DA, Eldar, Tau need more than a few tweaks.

Was considering tau for my next army choice. Hopefully we don't all have to wait a long time for the new 'dex.

I'd like to see a new craftworld codex first however.

darkslife wrote:Perfect example of 6ed quirkiness is necron destroyers having preferred enemy.

6ed apparently makes it effect shooting as well, 5th is only hand to hand, so a necron shooty unit having it atm is a bit wtf.

If tau get done the same way, expect the same sort of quirkiness.

If this is true, I hope Black Templars NEVER get redone Plasma pistols that get PE and won't get hot 99% of the time, for CHEAP costs?! Hello assault squads. Dakka Dreads that get to re-roll? Oh yeah...Oh, and assault cannon termies/cyclone missile launchers. Man, I'll be in heaven. GW, please don't update my book now if the PE rumor is true

InventionThirteen wrote:Was considering tau for my next army choice. Hopefully we don't all have to wait a long time for the new 'dex.

I'd like to see a new craftworld codex first however.

No, anything but this. We're a specialist army, even written with the next edition in mind (as the last one was), the transition will likely harm us notably more than others. Tau I think could go one way or the other, you seem to have a fairly core set of special rules over the entire army so you should be ok, but that being said with the rumors new races banning to the greater good I think you're likely to start leaning to the Eldar side of things. BT on the other hand... they're a SM chapter, GW aren't gonna do anything that will considerably hinder them. So all that said, I'd like 6th ed released next, but as that's stretching it, slip a MEQ codex or two in before it, then Tau/Eldar next.

agnosto wrote:I think BT just need some pricing and equipment updates and could benefit from the WD treatment since they were always designed to be a CC assault focused army. DA, Eldar, Tau need more than a few tweaks.

Oh, gods, no. The BT book works fine. Leave it at that, or make a new one, but a WD codex would only mess things up horribly.

I have 5000 points of fully painted Tau that I have never played.

I look forward to the new codex whenever it arrives.

Plus I think it is silly to argue the difference of being released 3 months before 6th or 3 months after.

It is going to be the same book either way.

I was just looking through the Tau HQ list on GWs site and noticed that all of the HQ choices except for the Tau Crisis Battlesuit Commander are listed as no longer available. I don't know if it means anything nor do I claim that it does, just thought it was interesting and that someone might want to know...

They might be getting a re-do in Failcost. It would make sense to remove them if there's none left, and then bring them out in a few months time like the wave of Eldar things that's about to hit in two weeks.

The Finecast Ethereal is also marked as unavailable; I'd figure this is just a site error. Tau aren't due until at least February, I doubt they'd stop selling the models now.

I've gotten SO tired of drop pods or Teleporting Chaos that I don't even let my Fire Warriors out of their transports. I've had no difficulties with Eldar or Tyranids, however SM, CSM, or DE (new codex) forget it I can't get a dang thing done against them. They just close in too quickly with fast vehicles, drop pods or Teleporting while using icons to home in on.

I certainly wish GW would just release WHF until the 40k 6th edition was out then release new codices. I'm almost done ranting.

Tau next? I hope so as long as it will fit within the 6th edition rules like some are saying. Go Priority Targeting as a main feature! Yeah epic fail.

As for unavailable models I just checked the GW website Nov. 1 at 07:36 and the only thing is that Finecast models are

Due to high demand, each Citadel Finecast product is limited to five (5) per customer.

Other than that all Tau are available to order in the UK GW website.

I agree I'd like to see a rewrite of the Tau allowing them to actually use the Mont'ka and Kauyon in play. Right now the best way for me to play is to bunch everyone in one corner focus all their fire on one squad at a time while the Crisis Suits do all the work. Granted my dice rolls suck. As for the Ethereal I see no reason to ever field them right now.

The last thing I want to see is Close Combat Tau. CC Alien allies fine, but not Tau.

Anyways I started to collect Space Wolves and packed my 18 Crisis Suits away until the new Codex.

I heard the next army to be updated was Black Templars


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My (SPECULATED) idea is Tau > DA > 6th > Chaos > Eldar > BT.