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Whitehat wrote:
Apart from CSM, no more codexes/Armybooks this year

Ouch. We'll still have 4th edition books lurking around come 7th edition at this rate.

Good Idea.

So many rumour mongers gong about at the moment having a way of tracking who has been right and who has been off the mark is going to benefit all in the long run.

Updated Harry and Starchild from Kroothawk's post in the N&R thread.

Added Stickmonkey's ork wave



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Grant's chaos rumors added


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Massive release date updates.

Wow, just found this thread. Fantastic work compiling and keeping this going, petre! I think it works just fine in Discussions, but it is really, really good to see some tracking here.

Thanks! Just had a flurry of activity too!


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Reverted some 6th ed changes until we know more.

More Info (unsure if others have mentioned it however)

Plastic Plaguebearers & Nurglings, Finecast Blue Scribes in August (amongst what Im presuming is that metal daemons will be released with Finecast Versions.)
Finecast will replace all metal models in the next year (unsure if that means specialist)

6th ed - a few morsels
Random Charges are 2D6 pick the highest (unless going through Difficult Terrain where its 3D6 and you drop the highest.) Move through cover I believe adds an extra D6

Vehicles are WS0 if stationary, and WS1 if they move, no matter how far they go.

Vehicles go the same distance in the movement phase (I believe 6" and fire everything regardless if fast or not) but in the shooting phase can make an extra move (apparently some kept forgetting what vehicles moved to fast to fire...

Vehicles cannot contest (unsure if scoring units in transports can

6 Missions and 3 deployment types (2 of the deployments are the same as current, Spearhead & Pitched Battle.)

Troops are the only ones that can score (including of course 'scoring units')

5+ Cover save for most things including ruins.

Allies rules are in, but its meant to be for team games (ie separate force org chart, distrusted ally rules similar to Fantasy)

Percentages are *not* in

Wound Allocation is closest to furthest.

Dueling is similar to challenges in fantasy but contrary to earlier rumors, they don't replace Combat res, just add to sides. A IC can challenge another IC in the same combat even if not in base to base. If the defending IC refuses, he simply cannot attack that turn, if he does he counts as being in b2b and no one else can hurt him apart from the attacking IC. I'm guessing this is to offset the Wound Allocation rules

Preferred Enemy is including shooting and you may reroll wound rolls of a 1 (either shooting or combat)

Rapid Fire weapons may now can shoot at long range while moving. restriction on assaulting after rapid firing remains.

Jump Infantry get a free strike at I10 when they charge into combat

Psychic Power Decks using a dice system similar to Fantasy.

Flyers are in.

FNP drops to 5+ Save.

I'm calling it now - Infantryhammer

Thanks, Whitehat!

I added your predictions to this thread and the Release Schedule thread. Most of that it pretty standard with what we have seen previously, but good to see more info.


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Updated Harry's rumors.

This is looking really good pretre, very informative

If I could make another suggestion though.....Would it not be worthwhile to record the date that each of these predictions is made? As far as I can see, it would be easy for people to get an impressive looking record in your list just by parroting back rumours that have already been made by other long-standing rumour mongers.

Yes, that would be good. I will try and go back and post dates. That may be a bitznitch though. lol

Yeah, maybe just for future rumours then. I can imagine it being a huge pain in the ass to go back through all of them now

Done with month and year.


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Gorechild wrote:Yeah, maybe just for future rumours then. I can imagine it being a huge pain in the ass to go back through all of them now

No, you don't get to change your mind! I'm done now.


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Added chaos rumors from Grant.


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Added the Horus Heresy rumors from Harry, Suntzu.

I mistyped re: the cover saves. Ruins are 4+, the vast majority of stuff is 5+

I did not mistype WS1 for moving vehicles, they are not WS10 if they moved - flyers might be different; not sure.

Preferred Enemy change of reroll 1's to wound is in addition to current rules for Preferred Enemy

Flyers are noted in the BRB changing some of the existing vehicles (Summary sheet in the back)

Eldar Flyer, Void Raven and Tau I believe are in the same wave.

Thanks, Whitehat!

Updated Darnok and Whitehat's rumors from the release schedule thread.

Thought it might be helpful if you gave averyone a positive and negative rating so we could just look at the first post of you thread and see quickly how reliable someone was. For instance lets say you get 5pts for a correct rumor and -5 for an incorrect rumor and 2 points for a partially correct rumor.

an example would look something like this:

Hastings 75 / -5

That way you could look very quickly and see how someone really ranked instead of having to read an entire page worth of what they have done for us.

@brettz123: It is an idea and avoids the problem of percentages. I'll let some other folks weigh in on the idea.

Administrative comment about the dates of the rumors: IMO I think there needs to be a little more contrast between the date the rumor was made/recorded and a prediction date. Currently, it is kind of muddled what date means what. I don't really have a suggestion, just something I noted. But I do love the idea of tracking it

I am not a fan of giving "goodness" ratings to the rumor mongers, too subjective. This thread is great to show the facts. Leave the who-should-I-trust to the reader. However as some of the rumor blocks are getting lengthy, an alternative to giving them a score would be to show their batting statistics: Total rumors: (#true) / (#false) / (#pending) ...as an example.

My $0.02 and some thoughts...and more work!

Re: dates
I added a format section in the OP. Basically, the one next to the rumor sub-title is when it was posted.

I am not against
true /false /pending

Anyone else want to weigh in?


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There. I added the count to hastings. People likey?

Nice, the format section really helps. Easy fix, thanks!

Whitehat wrote:I mistyped re: the cover saves. Ruins are 4+, the vast majority of stuff is 5+

I did not mistype WS1 for moving vehicles, they are not WS10 if they moved - flyers might be different; not sure.

Preferred Enemy change of reroll 1's to wound is in addition to current rules for Preferred Enemy

Flyers are noted in the BRB changing some of the existing vehicles (Summary sheet in the back)

Eldar Flyer, Void Raven and Tau I believe are in the same wave.

Any idea when the eldar and tau flyer wave is? Last rumour I heard pointed to august

Updated to include true / false / pending counts for everyone.

Well done. I like how you kept it outside the spoiler box, easy to peruse at a glance.

Thanks. It should give us an idea of where people are at. I'm looking forward to the armageddon of updates that will be coming soon. I may need to enlist helpers. lol

Shoot me a PM, I'll be glad to help.

Cool, I'll let you know if I need it.

Tyrannofex plastic with options to build as Tervigon,

Actually that was not what Stickmonkey said. He rather said:

Stickmonkey wrote:This is where it gets fuzzy. The tyrranofex is not at all shaped or sized IMO like the tervigon model. I did not have them side by side to compare, but lot of Internet speculation these kits would be combined. I don't see it. Some pieces like legs might have dual use, but I didn't see sprue cuts to tell there. If they are one kit, it will surprise me.

And I think mentioning the Dual Swarmlord Hive Tyrant kit and the Bits deserves more than just one "true" point.

Fair enough. I split that rumor up into separate ones which gives him 3 true / 4 false. I gave him a true and a false for the two separate Tyr/Terv rumors since he got it right the first time, but then changed his mind. lol

Samus_aran115 wrote:Sorry, but I think this is silly. All this is going to do is persuade future leakers to not post at the risk of being flamed or openly criticized (or put on this thread, right?).

Plus, most posters have a general idea who's reliable and who isn't. Quantifying their reliability is just going to cause endless quote pyramids.

Im fine with leakers being not excited about taking criticism. It'll mean they dont open their yap unless they're right. I get exhausted listening to wild speculation. Good lawd its EXHAUSTING

Wow, that is... A whole lot of information right there!

Thank you very much, pretre, for compiling all of these!!
+1 (!!!)

Added the 6th Ed Heresy Online rumors.


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Massive updates for starter sets from Faeit 212 for Harry, stickmonkey, et al