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Frazzled wrote:You missed the point. Strangers that look like mom get a better reaction than strangers that don't.
Coming back to England at the age of 2 after living in the middle and far east for 99% of my life, I apparently asked my mum upon walking down Southend Highstreet "Where are all the brown people?"
Strangers are only strange when they are not the norm; I was more used to seeing "brown people" having lived in the countries I lived in than white people (like myself and my family).
Frazzled wrote:You missed the point. Strangers that look like mom get a better reaction than strangers that don't.
Coming back to England at the age of 2 after living in the middle and far east for 99% of my life, I apparently asked my mum upon walking down Southend Highstreet "Where are all the brown people?"
Strangers are only strange when they are not the norm; I was more used to seeing "brown people" having lived in the countries I lived in than white people (like myself and my family).
Makes you wonder how white toddlers with black nannies would have reacted in antebellum US to the Civil Rights movement. A clear social structure existed and another subculture of social interaction with white children depending on black pseudo-parents. The mind fairly boggles.
Avatar 720 wrote: You see, to Auston, everyone is a Death Star; there's only one way you can take it and that's through a small gap at the back.
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
"Them and us" is a fairly basic and easy concept to understand. I would hazard that you can start talking to kids about the concept as soon as they are able to ask questions like "what" immediately followed by the never ending "why'. And since we were talking about Civil War era US, this happened a LOT.
saw it happen once, but not in a race way but more in a "rich and poor" way
yes it pissed me off.
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Hey, I just met you,
and this is crazy,
but I'm a demon,
possess you, maybe?
Yea I dont think to many parents do that anymore. I think in a few more generations, the whole race card will pretty much fizzle out. Well for the majority anyways
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
"Them and us" is a fairly basic and easy concept to understand. I would hazard that you can start talking to kids about the concept as soon as they are able to ask questions like "what" immediately followed by the never ending "why'. And since we were talking about Civil War era US, this happened a LOT.
saw it happen once, but not in a race way but more in a "rich and poor" way
yes it pissed me off.
I know for sure it was never explained to me in any way, shape or form...
Actually thinking back my parents really didn't shape much of my opinions...
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Well they are both real.
The older picture is from a 60 minutes interview IIRC and the other one is from a making of video for a trailer of a fake movie on Jimmy Kimmel.
It's called Movie: The Movie.
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Avatar 720 wrote: You see, to Auston, everyone is a Death Star; there's only one way you can take it and that's through a small gap at the back.
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
I had worked the second one out from the name of the actress, let alone the whole image.
I wondered if it was one obvious and one less obvious part of a comic meme.
n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
mattyrm wrote: If someone smells like they haven't washed for a month and you move is that prejudiced against the smelly? If some big fat bird is eating a bucket of chicken directly across from you and its grossing you out and you move, is that prejudiced against greedy bastards?! Are you racist against the obese race?
feth me, and even if you ARE racist or prejudiced, as long as they don't actually say anything, or do anything, or encourage their kids to say anything, then who gives a feth anyway!?
Everyone hates something, or someone, or some group. You are entitled to your opinion, and you only cross the line into douche-bagville if you actually do anything about it.
Sort of. The issue really is whether your idea has any basis in fact. For example, seeing the fat lady eating the bucket of chicken and concluding 'she is probably fat because she eats badly and does very little exercise' isn't bigotry, because it's most likely true.
On the other hand, seeing an Arabic guy on the train and thinking there is a reasonable chance he's about to set off a bomb is bigoted, because there is a much greater chance he's part of the millions of Arabic people with no interest in terrorism, than part of the few who do.
That's really the issue that's gotten lost in all of this - factual reality. Everyone goes on about offensiveness and this kind of purely moral opposition to bigotry, as if that alone made any kind of sense. But the bigger issue is 'is that thought true?'
People shouldn't rail against bigotry because it's immoral, but because it's stupid.
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PhantomViper wrote:Go and watch how toddlers interact with each other. Prejudice for what is different / unknown is pretty much human nature and as such is impossible to remove from our society. Racism can be eradicated, but I personally bet against it since there will always be ignorant people around...
With more integrated societies then people of different skin colours being unfamiliar won't be such an issue. That there's toddlers interacting with other toddlers of different skin colours mean they're learning now that that different skin isn't actually that big of a deal.
And even that fear/unfamiliarity is a lot different to 'oh he's of such and such a race, that means he is likely to have this list of characteristics' stupidity that become very common place in the 19th & 20th centuries.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
Racism is alive and well. It will never die out completely. In America it is smoldering, but embers still flare up from time to time. As long as a significant percentage of humanity remains stupid and ignorant pointless hatred will exist.
Edit: A big part of the problem is that a lot of rural areas in America and even smaller metropolitan areas are not well integrated yet. It might actually be worse in the big cities, there are areas where you flat out don't go if you're white and not from that part of town.
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Amaya wrote:Racism is alive and well. It will never die out completely. In America it is smoldering, but embers still flare up from time to time. As long as a significant percentage of humanity remains stupid and ignorant pointless hatred will exist.
Edit: A big part of the problem is that a lot of rural areas in America and even smaller metropolitan areas are not well integrated yet. It might actually be worse in the big cities, there are areas where you flat out don't go if you're white and not from that part of town.
You think racism doesn't exist in the big city?
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Amaya wrote:Once again I have to wonder if you're illiterate Frazzled.
I'll use your own quote:
A big part of the problem is that a lot of rural areas in America and even smaller metropolitan areas are not well integrated yet.
Next time write more gooder.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Amaya wrote:And rural areas are probably much more racist than big cities with the exception of various ghettos.
I'm not tracking on how you get "there is no racism in cities" from my post, but you always seem a bit confuzzled.
You just said it again. You have no proof but the smoke from your ass.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Frazzled wrote:You just said it again. You have no proof but the smoke from your ass.
"Joe has more money than Bill" does not mean Bill may not also have some or a lot of money, it just means he has less than Joe. As such, 'A big part of the problem is that a lot of rural areas in America and even smaller metropolitan areas are not well integrated yet' and 'rural areas are probably much more racist than big cities' are arguing there is more racism in rural areas than in cities, but it is not suggesting there is no racism in cities.
Seriously dude, that's the kind of reading comprehension tests they hand in primary school. We all know you're capable of following the argument as presented, at which point we have to ask why you chose to read it incorrectly.
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
Amaya wrote:Racism is alive and well. It will never die out completely. In America it is smoldering, but embers still flare up from time to time. As long as a significant percentage of humanity remains stupid and ignorant pointless hatred will exist.
Edit: A big part of the problem is that a lot of rural areas in America and even smaller metropolitan areas are not well integrated yet. It might actually be worse in the big cities, there are areas where you flat out don't go if you're white and not from that part of town.
You think racism doesn't exist in the big city?
I Cant beleive im saying this, But Frazz is Right, Racism in the big city is really prevalent, I live in the big city and the schools are veru divided among income and race.
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
hotsauceman1 wrote:I Cant beleive im saying this, But Frazz is Right, Racism in the big city is really prevalent, I live in the big city and the schools are veru divided among income and race.
I can't believe I have to explain this to a second person. No-one said there was no racism in cities, just that there was more in the country. I mean, I don't even know if I agree with the statement, I'd probably argue there's plenty of racism in both, it's just different kinds of racism.
But come on, people, it's really basic reading comprehension here.
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
So, if you are white and dont vote Obama you're probably racist.
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It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
Prestor Jon wrote: Because children don't have any legal rights until they're adults. A minor is the responsiblity of the parent and has no legal rights except through his/her legal guardian or parent.
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