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 timetowaste85 wrote:
Still don't understand how people are getting that Cap is gay for Bucky.

They're yaoi fangirls with no social intelligence.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Rewatched the Civil War movie yesterday. Still don't understand how people are getting that Cap is gay for Bucky. Bucky was his best friend in the world, he watched him "die" and saw him come back as a slave. They're also both two men trapped outside of their own time, and Cap has always been about saving people. Plus he's with Peggy's niece! Seriously...calling him gay for Bucky....just no. Straight up idiocy. This is the story of a man desperate to save the only connection to his childhood and his old life. Can anyone on here truly say they wouldn't do the same for their best friend? Hell, I know I would! (If I was super strong and had a shield that gave the middle finger to physics).

It's probably for the same reason people think Sam & Frodo should be gay for each other.

I jumped into this thread because I was hoping it was in response to giving ryan reynolds another opportunity to mess up a movie. that man is a menace who must be stopped.

 d-usa wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Rewatched the Civil War movie yesterday. Still don't understand how people are getting that Cap is gay for Bucky. Bucky was his best friend in the world, he watched him "die" and saw him come back as a slave. They're also both two men trapped outside of their own time, and Cap has always been about saving people. Plus he's with Peggy's niece! Seriously...calling him gay for Bucky....just no. Straight up idiocy. This is the story of a man desperate to save the only connection to his childhood and his old life. Can anyone on here truly say they wouldn't do the same for their best friend? Hell, I know I would! (If I was super strong and had a shield that gave the middle finger to physics).

It's probably for the same reason people think Sam & Frodo should be gay for each other.

That's because people can't handle two straight dudes being emotionally close with each other.

 thekingofkings wrote:
I jumped into this thread because I was hoping it was in response to giving ryan reynolds another opportunity to mess up a movie. that man is a menace who must be stopped.

hes perfect as DeadPool

Asterios wrote:

 pax macharia wrote:

Asterios wrote:
after reading an article today I have decided to Boycott Marvel and anything dealing with Marvel from Comics to movies to TV shows, why you ask, it appears Marvel has made Captain America into a sleeper agent for HYDRA, in essence they have turned Captain America a symbol who stands for all that is right with America into a Nazi, I consider this reprehensible and disrespectful to America and all it stands for.

yes you are trolling.

Oh dang, you're right, this is all part of an Illuminati conspiracy to rewire our brains, ultimately making us more fascist.

 thekingofkings wrote:
I jumped into this thread because I was hoping it was in response to giving ryan reynolds another opportunity to mess up a movie. that man is a menace who must be stopped.

While you are, of course, entitled to your opinion, you are wrong. In fact, you should feel bad for suggesting such a thing. Reynolds is the closest we'd ever come to getting a Hollywood portrayal of Deadpool. That movie also made a killing, and was well loved by almost everyone who saw it. Except the idiot parents who ignored the R rating and took kids to a super hero movie. And people who have no taste. Those two groups disliked it.

 timetowaste85 wrote:

 thekingofkings wrote:
I jumped into this thread because I was hoping it was in response to giving ryan reynolds another opportunity to mess up a movie. that man is a menace who must be stopped.

While you are, of course, entitled to your opinion, you are wrong. In fact, you should feel bad for suggesting such a thing. Reynolds is the closest we'd ever come to getting a Hollywood portrayal of Deadpool. That movie also made a killing, and was well loved by almost everyone who saw it. Except the idiot parents who ignored the R rating and took kids to a super hero movie. And people who have no taste. Those two groups disliked it.

There is a 3rd group, those of us who watched "the proposal", "green lantern" and "RIPD" and are now scarred for life. The man is the devil. not to mention what he did to amytiville horror. oh the humanity of it all.

 thekingofkings wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:

 thekingofkings wrote:
I jumped into this thread because I was hoping it was in response to giving ryan reynolds another opportunity to mess up a movie. that man is a menace who must be stopped.

While you are, of course, entitled to your opinion, you are wrong. In fact, you should feel bad for suggesting such a thing. Reynolds is the closest we'd ever come to getting a Hollywood portrayal of Deadpool. That movie also made a killing, and was well loved by almost everyone who saw it. Except the idiot parents who ignored the R rating and took kids to a super hero movie. And people who have no taste. Those two groups disliked it.

There is a 3rd group, those of us who watched "the proposal", "green lantern" and "RIPD" and are now scarred for life. The man is the devil. not to mention what he did to amytiville horror. oh the humanity of it all.

actually he makes fun of green Lantern in DeadPool.

 thekingofkings wrote:
There is a 3rd group, those of us who watched "the proposal", "green lantern" and "RIPD" and are now scarred for life. The man is the devil. not to mention what he did to amytiville horror. oh the humanity of it all.

Yeah, 'cause the problems with those films were all down to Reynolds' involvement.

 thekingofkings wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:

 thekingofkings wrote:
I jumped into this thread because I was hoping it was in response to giving ryan reynolds another opportunity to mess up a movie. that man is a menace who must be stopped.

While you are, of course, entitled to your opinion, you are wrong. In fact, you should feel bad for suggesting such a thing. Reynolds is the closest we'd ever come to getting a Hollywood portrayal of Deadpool. That movie also made a killing, and was well loved by almost everyone who saw it. Except the idiot parents who ignored the R rating and took kids to a super hero movie. And people who have no taste. Those two groups disliked it.

There is a 3rd group, those of us who watched "the proposal", "green lantern" and "RIPD" and are now scarred for life. The man is the devil. not to mention what he did to amytiville horror. oh the humanity of it all.

You could say that about any actor ever. Is train spotting now rubbish due to star wars?

trainspotting came first.

 thekingofkings wrote:
trainspotting came first.

Which is neither here nor there to the argument made. Almost every actor in the history of the medium has made some bad films but that also doesn't negate their good films, and as H.B.M.C. those movies weren't bad because of Reynolds.

Hell there is a thread right now about how Adam Sandler actually made a semi-decent movie which is a crazy idea.

Very good directors have made some very bad films too. Making a good movie is about a whole host of factors coming together.

Sorry...I guess I'm way off topic here. Maybe getting it back on topic, I think we can be 100% certain that Disney will go nowhere near the Cap-Hydra thing in any future MCU films.

 Ahtman wrote:

 thekingofkings wrote:
trainspotting came first.

Which is neither hear nor there to the argument made. Almost every actor in the history of the medium has made some bad films but that also doesn't negate their good films, and as H.B.M.C. those movies weren't bad because of Reynolds.

Hell there is a thread right now about how Adam Sandler actually made a semi-decent movie which is a crazy idea.

You're welcome!!
And yes...I do actually encourage people to give it a shot. It's better than it deserves to be.

your voices do not sway me, Ryan Reynolds is the devil in the flesh, 1 good movie does not absolve all the horrors he has inflicted on the movie world.

I think you hate Ryan Reynolds a little 'too much.' If you know what I mean.

 gorgon wrote:
I think you hate Ryan Reynolds a little 'too much.' If you know what I mean.

Who doesn't

Okay I'm sorry.

 gorgon wrote:
I think you hate Ryan Reynolds a little 'too much.' If you know what I mean.

I think he's just jealous of Reynolds' rockin' bod.

Deadpool was a great movie.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 gorgon wrote:
I think you hate Ryan Reynolds a little 'too much.' If you know what I mean.

I think he's just jealous of Reynolds' rockin' bod.

and the money, and scarlett johannson, and blake lively, etc..

I'm more than a little terrified that people can let their lives get derailed because of how much they revolved around a fictional character. I understand being pissed, but holy cow, there's such a thing as too far. Aaaand I think the military guy lept over that line.

Maybe not necessarily. Hear me out. While Cap is a fictional hero, he's still a role model of sorts. He's the all-American guy who is/was the champion of liberty and the epitome of what it means to be an American. And of course, he inspired this guy (and probably others) to fight, and in some cases die for their country. And now all those guys who felt proud to be doing honor to the name of captain America in the best way that they can will only feel a serious punch to the gut, as the symbolism has been rocked to the core. Everyone knows Cap is fictitious. However, all that he stood for is real. And right now it's looking very tarnished. I'm not surprised at the horror, anger or death threats. And if Cap being a traitor all along isn't fixed to send him back to normal, I can't really say I disagree with those who are so outraged. However, I personally believe the Cosmic Cube has changed time to make him an agent and it'll all go back to normal after the arc. It's literary suicide to keep Cap a villain forever.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
And now all those guys who felt proud to be doing honor to the name of captain America in the best way that they can will only feel a serious punch to the gut, as the symbolism has been rocked to the core

I guess that's the price to pay when you buy what amounts to a crass propaganda piece hook, line and sinker.

Next up, fast-food owners commit mass suicide when Ronald McDonald is outed as a communist, and all the hints that pointed toward the terrible truth.

I never respected the New 52 Superman myself, but killing him off just destroys opportunities for storytelling. Because if they're going to make Superman in to yet another brooding, whiny superhero, the least they could do is make him fething grow out of it over the course of an interesting story. That way you don't have to do a major retcon, because instead, you have character development.

But DC and Marvel don't like character development. It's too scary.

 Kovnik Obama wrote:
I guess that's the price to pay when you buy what amounts to a crass propaganda piece hook, line and sinker.

That sounds like a statement based on zero knowledge of Steve Rogers.

 Kovnik Obama wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
And now all those guys who felt proud to be doing honor to the name of captain America in the best way that they can will only feel a serious punch to the gut, as the symbolism has been rocked to the core

I guess that's the price to pay when you buy what amounts to a crass propaganda piece hook, line and sinker.

Next up, fast-food owners commit mass suicide when Ronald McDonald is outed as a communist, and all the hints that pointed toward the terrible truth.

you really have no clue what Captain America stood for and represented.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Maybe not necessarily. Hear me out. While Cap is a fictional hero, he's still a role model of sorts. He's the all-American guy who is/was the champion of liberty and the epitome of what it means to be an American. And of course, he inspired this guy (and probably others) to fight, and in some cases die for their country. And now all those guys who felt proud to be doing honor to the name of captain America in the best way that they can will only feel a serious punch to the gut, as the symbolism has been rocked to the core.

Yeah, basically this, like I said. Comics do have a great power to inspire but, that means the should take the responsibility too (see what I did there) and think about what they represent as morality tales to generations.

In saying that, don't start making death threats for a sales stunt, please.



On another note, I thought New-52 Superman wasn't quite dead due to timey-wimeyness? Wasn't that the idea?

Asterios wrote:

 Kovnik Obama wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
And now all those guys who felt proud to be doing honor to the name of captain America in the best way that they can will only feel a serious punch to the gut, as the symbolism has been rocked to the core

I guess that's the price to pay when you buy what amounts to a crass propaganda piece hook, line and sinker.

Next up, fast-food owners commit mass suicide when Ronald McDonald is outed as a communist, and all the hints that pointed toward the terrible truth.

you really have no clue what Captain America stood for and represented.

Umm selling comic books? Or is that not a thing and it was actually a charity ALL ALONG?

Seriously, it's comics. If your brain explodes every time a schlocky writer does something dumb/wrong/ LOLWHUT? with your beloved fictional character, well, let's just say maybe comics aren't for you. Basing a whole life philosophy over a made up drawing and that is shaken when one of its iterations does something you don't like? Whoo- boy! Some serious 1st world and/or mental problems going on there...

And "doing honor to the name of captain America" sounds strangely perverse....

 jmurph wrote:

Asterios wrote:

 Kovnik Obama wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
And now all those guys who felt proud to be doing honor to the name of captain America in the best way that they can will only feel a serious punch to the gut, as the symbolism has been rocked to the core

I guess that's the price to pay when you buy what amounts to a crass propaganda piece hook, line and sinker.

Next up, fast-food owners commit mass suicide when Ronald McDonald is outed as a communist, and all the hints that pointed toward the terrible truth.

you really have no clue what Captain America stood for and represented.

Umm selling comic books? Or is that not a thing and it was actually a charity ALL ALONG?

Seriously, it's comics. If your brain explodes every time a schlocky writer does something dumb/wrong/ LOLWHUT? with your beloved fictional character, well, let's just say maybe comics aren't for you. Basing a whole life philosophy over a made up drawing and that is shaken when one of its iterations does something you don't like? Whoo- boy! Some serious 1st world and/or mental problems going on there...

And "doing honor to the name of captain America" sounds strangely perverse....

you really are clueless? whatever.